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[THIS IS ALL STRICTLY IMO]
Lately I've been noticing that GH, RB [and more specifically GHIII] is being touted as being some of the hardest music games ever.  Not only that, but GH/RB is all that anybody considers "music game genre"?

First off, does DJMAX, DDR, Pump it Up, In the Groove, Precussion Freaks, Guitar Freaks, Drummania, beatmaniaIIDX, Pop'n Music, etc not exist all of a sudden?  I mean, I remember when that video in some Japanese arcade of some absurd Pop'n Music song went viral, now it seems like people are too lazy to do some basic research.  Case-in-point:  When Konami released beatmania in the U.S for the first time since 5-Key 1st Mix / HipHopMania, when X-Play on G4 called it a ripoff of Guitar Hero - despite that it predated Guitar Hero by 8 years.

Now the main point of the rant:  Nearly every other music game out there is harder than Rock Band and Guitar Hero - an assertion I make based on its game mechanics, and by observation.  I'm going to use beatmaniaIIDX for comparison.

For one, Guitar Hero and Rock Band seem to have a very binary note registering system - either you hit it, or you miss it [with no degree in between] with a rather wide margin for error.   IIDX OTOH has rather strict timing windows, and many degrees of "hit the note" - from the perfect timing [flashing GREAT, or "Just Great"] to poor timing ["Poor"] - in IIDX, 100% actually means 100% hit within the "JUST GREAT" timing window - though the letter grade AAA is more lenient than that [for good reason, IMO].

Others cite the # of notes in a note chart as a spectacle of difficulty.  One thing I find faulty with this argument is that the songs are longer than in most other music games.   3 - 5, even 10 minute songs in GH / RB for the most part whereas the longest song in a game like beatmaniaIIDX is 2:30 in change on average.  3,722 note Full Combo in TTFATF [7:22 long] doesn't seem as impressive as doing nearly 3/4 of that in a 3rd of the time, like you can with a few of the IIDX songs.  Mei [on Another] is just about 2 minutes long, 2,000 notes.  If it was about 4x longer [almost matching with TTFATF] with that many notes per 2 minutes, forget about it.  The ration of notes to time is far greater with IIDX, IMO.

While there is /a/ challenge, GH/RB is far from the hardest music game out there.



 
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Re: Guitar Hero [any version] the Hardest Music Game EVER? REALLY? ~_~
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 05:56:01 PM »
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I only have GH2, GH3 was lost along with the guitar -_-

mfw idiots who think they can play a real guitar because they can do a guitar hero song.

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Re: Guitar Hero [any version] the Hardest Music Game EVER? REALLY? ~_~
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 06:02:02 PM »
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I used to be a beast at DDR, but then I hit puberty and I wasn't nearly as coordinated anymore.

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Re: Guitar Hero [any version] the Hardest Music Game EVER? REALLY? ~_~
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 06:04:06 PM »
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I only have GH2, GH3 was lost along with the guitar -_-


I found a GH controller when dumpster diving my first year in college [in the "you always find the stuff that is good, but people don't want to bring home" last week or two of the semester]... accidentally broke the tremolo bar rendering it unusable.  >_<  So much for getting into that.


Last spring was when I was my closest to peak performance at ITG2 - could do many sets of nothing but Expert 10s and 11s - then college went into overdrive. >_<
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Re: Guitar Hero [any version] the Hardest Music Game EVER? REALLY? ~_~
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2011, 06:04:54 PM »
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I used to be a beast at DDR, but then I hit puberty and I wasn't nearly as coordinated anymore.

For some reason, I'm a boss at DDR playing on Challenge and ONI, but I can't even play Guitar Hero on the easy.


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Re: Guitar Hero [any version] the Hardest Music Game EVER? REALLY? ~_~
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2011, 06:16:46 PM »
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Hehehe, if you have Rockband 3, try buying the overpriced pro guitar controller and playing with that. Where you actually play it as if you were playing a real guitar, without only hitting the 5 basic colored keys.

Shit gets hard fast unless you practice for every song.

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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2011, 07:08:38 PM »
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Hehehe, if you have Rockband 3, try buying the overpriced pro guitar controller and playing with that. Where you actually play it as if you were playing a real guitar, without only hitting the 5 basic keys.

At that point, I ~MAY~ be better off trying to play the song on the real thing.   :P
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Re: Guitar Hero [any version] the Hardest Music Game EVER? REALLY? ~_~
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2011, 07:53:44 PM »
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At that point, I ~MAY~ be better off trying to play the song on the real thing.   :P
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