cuz u werent, VIP system wasnt implemented until end of September / beginning of Ocotober, and I, MOO, personally have handled VIPs the entire time and I know everyone whos been vip and who applies for vip, if you go to the VIP section itself... and u look in the APPROVED section if you can please find you application and show it to me, then that will be proof itself, otherwise ur a liar, and if u bring up things about the old forum, well you cant cuz the old forum did not HAVE VIP, it did not EXIST at the time, only RESPECTED existed