Going to Toronto, Canada sometime next year.

[Ἆxule]

After hanging out and talking with my family over the weekend, I learned that Toronto is only a couple of hours away from where I'm living in Lansing, Michigan. I plan on bringing my girlfriend during some week long break next year to Toronto. Knowing that there a handful of you who live in Canada, I was curious what there was to do in Toronto or Canada just in general. Are there things I should be aware of doing that may come off as rude? We'll both also be 19, so we'll probably have drinking involved in some part of our trip, which will likely only be a couple of days.

[Sabb]

Tbh there's lots to do but the only stuff I really know about is some good restaurants and lots of music events and sporting etc. There's not really a huge difference in culture between Canada and the US tbh so as long as you're generally a courteous person you'll fit right in. We might talk a bit differently is pretty much all lol.
Also if you're coming any time past March we could hit up a bar together if you're interested.

[Shawn]

Canada's wonderland.

[Ἆxule]

Tbh there's lots to do but the only stuff I really know about is some good restaurants and lots of music events and sporting etc. There's not really a huge difference in culture between Canada and the US tbh so as long as you're generally a courteous person you'll fit right in. We might talk a bit differently is pretty much all lol.
Also if you're coming any time past March we could hit up a bar together if you're interested.

It would be really cool hitting you up! We plan on going during the fall, so whenever there's a week long break during school is when we'll go. I'll let you know what the plan is when it gets close to it because it's still another year until we can go, and a lot can change within a year :/

[Sabb]

It would be really cool hitting you up! We plan on going during the fall, so whenever there's a week long break during school is when we'll go. I'll let you know what the plan is when it gets close to it because it's still another year until we can go, and a lot can change within a year :/

Sounds good. Btw if you're big on music/sports check out ticketmaster or something before coming, there are a few great venues in Toronto.

[Cable]

After hanging out and talking with my family over the weekend, I learned that Toronto is only a couple of hours away from where I'm living in Lansing, Michigan. I plan on bringing my girlfriend during some week long break next year to Toronto. Knowing that there a handful of you who live in Canada, I was curious what there was to do in Toronto or Canada just in general. Are there things I should be aware of doing that may come off as rude? We'll both also be 19, so we'll probably have drinking involved in some part of our trip, which will likely only be a couple of days.

Since when did you move to Michigan? Lansing is pretty close to me.

[Ἆxule]

Since when did you move to Michigan? Lansing is pretty close to me.

I moved to Michigan this August for college at Michigan State University which is in East Lansing.

[Cake Faice]

mfw every other fucking country's drinking age is 16-18. But no a bunch of buttmad moms had to raise it to 21.

[Sabb]

mfw every other fucking country's drinking age is 16-18. But no a bunch of buttmad moms had to raise it to 21.

(　´‿ゝ｀)
to be fair it's actually 19 here in Ontario

[Monorail Cat]

mfw every other fucking country's drinking age is 16-18. But no a bunch of buttmad moms had to raise it to 21.

I did an 18-page research paper on this issue.  Back in the 80s when the MDA was lowered to 18, rates of teen deaths, car accidents, and alcohol poisoning increased by quite a lot.  Restored it to 21, and the rates lowered.  Not to mention that at young ages, alcohol use increases chance of suicide, alcohol problems later in life, and other shit.

Of course if you don't abuse it, these things are unlikely to happen.  However, when 18-year-olds have legal access to alcohol, they are much more likely to abuse it. 

Another fact:  Right now in America, where do the 18-year-olds get their alcohol?  They get it from the legal people they know.  For them, it's easier to get alcohol than it is for younger kids, like 14-year-olds.  Well, when you lower the MDA to 18, the 14-year-olds will have easier access to alcohol than they had ever had before.


Sure, other countries have lower MDAs and everything's alright, not as many people get in wrecks, etc.  But that is because it's been that way for a very long time.  They are used to it.  In America, if the MDA is 18, they wouldn't know how to handle it.  Everyone who now had legal access would be very likely to abuse it, because it's a new-found freedom. 

If America started with its MDA at 18, as I believe it should have, it would not be a problem like it would be if it were changed today.  That's what should have happened.

[Cake Faice]

I did an 18-page research paper on this issue.  Back in the 80s when the MDA was lowered to 18, rates of teen deaths, car accidents, and alcohol poisoning increased by quite a lot.  Restored it to 21, and the rates lowered.  Not to mention that at young ages, alcohol use increases chance of suicide, alcohol problems later in life, and other shit.

Of course if you don't abuse it, these things are unlikely to happen.  However, when 18-year-olds have legal access to alcohol, they are much more likely to abuse it. 

Another fact:  Right now in America, where do the 18-year-olds get their alcohol?  They get it from the legal people they know.  For them, it's easier to get alcohol than it is for younger kids, like 14-year-olds.  Well, when you lower the MDA to 18, the 14-year-olds will have easier access to alcohol than they had ever had before.


Sure, other countries have lower MDAs and everything's alright, not as many people get in wrecks, etc.  But that is because it's been that way for a very long time.  They are used to it.  In America, if the MDA is 18, they wouldn't know how to handle it.  Everyone who now had legal access would be very likely to abuse it, because it's a new-found freedom. 

If America started with its MDA at 18, as I believe it should have, it would not be a problem like it would be if it were changed today.  That's what should have happened.

Ah yes, so it makes perfect sense that in the event of a war, I'm mentally responsible and mature enough to get drafted and die for a country that I can't even enjoy a beer in. Smoking also screws up your body and is one of the top attributing causes to cancer and other related illnesses, but hey you can do that when you're 18. Let alone own a gun legally. Of course now today shit would get wrecked because every 18 year old will be drinking up a storm but like you said, it wouldn't have been a problem if we started out like everyone else. I dunno how the hell MADD managed pull enough funds to lobby in the government, but every time I see the name of that spastic group I get slightly pissed. Like 

[Tezuni]

Nice Axule, that is pretty exciting.  I'm sure you'll love it.

Another fact:  Right now in America, where do the 18-year-olds get their alcohol?  They get it from the legal people they know.  For them, it's easier to get alcohol than it is for younger kids, like 14-year-olds.  Well, when you lower the MDA to 18, the 14-year-olds will have easier access to alcohol than they had ever had before.


Sure, other countries have lower MDAs and everything's alright, not as many people get in wrecks, etc.  But that is because it's been that way for a very long time.  They are used to it.  In America, if the MDA is 18, they wouldn't know how to handle it.  Everyone who now had legal access would be very likely to abuse it, because it's a new-found freedom. 

If America started with its MDA at 18, as I believe it should have, it would not be a problem like it would be if it were changed today.  That's what should have happened.

Nice points, hadn't thought of 18 year old HS seniors supplying to underclassmen before.

Ah yes, so it makes perfect sense that in the event of a war, I'm mentally responsible and mature enough to get drafted and die for a country that I can't even enjoy a beer in. Smoking also screws up your body and is one of the top attributing causes to cancer and other related illnesses, but hey you can do that when you're 18. Let alone own a gun legally. Of course now today shit would get wrecked because every 18 year old will be drinking up a storm but like you said, it wouldn't have been a problem if we started out like everyone else. I dunno how the hell MADD managed pull enough funds to lobby in the government, but every time I see the name of that spastic group I get slightly pissed. Like 

For the most part, an 18 year old male is pretty physically and mentally capable.  Warfare is not really comparable to alcohol.  There's more to consider like the point mono brought up with HS seniors supplying to underclassmen.

[TehHank]

God bless Great Britain.

[Ἆxule]

God bless Great Britain.

I'm more a fun fan of Guinness

[Cake Faice]

Warfare is not really comparable to alcohol.

The action itself isn't, but the physiology and judgment level behind it far surpasses the physiology and judgment level behind alcohol consequence.

If the government thinks anyone 18-25 has a mental capacity that can handle the consequences of warfare, then it makes absolutely 0 sense that you can't enjoy a beer every now and then until you're 21.