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Maybe rNd does need a point shop (including TTT)
« on: October 23, 2013, 11:27:15 AM »
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I've always hated point shops. I never got the point of having a "custom" character. (Especially on TTT where it just gets you a better chance of being killed.)

But point shops are a great way to keep people regular many people like them. It encourages them to stay on the server because they want to keep all their progress.

Maybe we should have a point shop And have more options than other servers? (A lot of servers only do hats and trails. Maybe we could do full body? Belts? Shoes? Gloves? Not sure how hard that would be.)
And have it so it carries over to all rNd servers? So they only want to play on rND?
Maybe have special items that you can only get if you sign up for the forum as well?


Let's not beat around the bush. rNd is kinda becoming a ghost town. Though many of us dislike point shops, if it can help bring the server back. Why not?
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Re: Maybe rNd does need a point shop (including TTT)
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 12:10:14 PM »
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It should all be shallow (e.g. visual or audial) effects, and optional (easily disabled for people who don't want it/don't want to see it).

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Re: Maybe rNd does need a point shop (including TTT)
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2013, 01:04:06 PM »
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Add Fretta taunts to all servers kthx



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Re: Maybe rNd does need a point shop (including TTT)
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2013, 01:06:39 PM »
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God no, I'm fine with all the other servers after thinking about it, but NOT TTT.

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Re: Maybe rNd does need a point shop (including TTT)
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 02:25:52 PM »
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God no, I'm fine with all the other servers after thinking about it, but NOT TTT.
Then why don't you play on them?

Also ontopic, not for or against it but if we actually add a points shop we might as well add other custom content to TTT, as much as i'd hate to say it.



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Re: Maybe rNd does need a point shop (including TTT)
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 08:04:36 PM »
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It should all be shallow (e.g. visual or audial) effects, and optional (easily disabled for people who don't want it/don't want to see it).
"shallow (e.g. visual or audial) effects" Kinda vague by this? shallow (e.g. visual or audial) effects visual could mean hats?

"optional" Eh against this. Why bother buying something if I can't show it off?(I won't be using the pointshop. I meant other people) Plus why bother take it off?

God no, I'm fine with all the other servers after thinking about it, but NOT TTT.
Taunts would be great. As long as we are not allowed to move like TF2. We don't want another 'muscle' incident.

God no, I'm fine with all the other servers after thinking about it, but NOT TTT.
Vanilla TTTs are kinda dying. I said it before I dislike pointshops, but the fact is many love pointshops, and it encourages people more to return to the server. Which we really need.
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Re: Maybe rNd does need a point shop (including TTT)
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2013, 09:48:25 PM »
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How would you handle balancing the content per gamemode so that it doesn't deter the intended gameplay?
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Re: Maybe rNd does need a point shop (including TTT)
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2013, 10:06:18 PM »
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How would you handle balancing the content per gamemode so that it doesn't deter the intended gameplay?

I'm confused. What do you mean? Are you asking how to make sure the point shop doesn't effect(affect?) the gameplay at all?
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Re: Maybe rNd does need a point shop (including TTT)
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2013, 10:29:33 PM »
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How would you handle balancing the content per gamemode so that it doesn't deter the intended gameplay?
I have a few ideas.



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Re: Maybe rNd does need a point shop (including TTT)
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2013, 12:00:41 AM »
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I'm confused. What do you mean? Are you asking how to make sure the point shop doesn't effect(affect?) the gameplay at all?
How to balance what content is available and when so that gameplay isn't sacrificed.
I have a few ideas.
Please feel free to list them.
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Re: Maybe rNd does need a point shop (including TTT)
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2013, 01:08:12 AM »
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How to balance what content is available and when so that gameplay isn't sacrificed.Please feel free to list them.
Just make cosmetics only? And taunts? No weapons or powers or anything like that. Shouldn't change the game mode at all. Just people will be dressed up.

Just try to avoid HEAD hats, like hats that change the head(Example would be an astronaut helmet.) So it doesn't mess up the hitbox for headshots. Cowboy hats, base ball caps, TF2 hats, fedoras
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and other crap should be fine.

Maybe have pins/stickers/badges people can put on their bodies as well?(Could also be neat. Maybe make a regular. VIP, admin, etc)
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That would certainly attract some people. lol

I think it'd be cool if people could go full out on being customized. Feet, hands, body, pants(?), head. I don't think any servers do this? Usually just hats. Sometimes skins.

However I imagine having this many options might take a lot of time to make. Or might be too hard. And another downside is the download might be huge? (I don't know too much programming. So I don't really know.)


Oh and maybe have drops?

One server I've been going on sometimes gives hats to you for playing.(Though I don't know how you would make this. Maybe every 4 hours of gameplay they get extra points/a random hat? Idk)
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Re: Maybe rNd does need a point shop (including TTT)
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2013, 01:59:05 AM »
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Content size will increase substantially yes.

What do you think about cosmetic influences in TTT, prop hunt, stalker, etc, etc?

How do you think points should be acquired and balanced?
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Re: Maybe rNd does need a point shop (including TTT)
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2013, 02:38:39 AM »
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10/min
50/30 min
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Re: Maybe rNd does need a point shop (including TTT)
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2013, 03:30:41 AM »
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Can't quite BC phone.

Hideo: why optional and shallow? A) because some people don't want shitty effects interrupting their srs traitoring/innocenting/detecticing. B) because it shouldn't bother players who just want to play the game and not download loadsa cosmetic MBs. C) just like mics, shouldn't be forced to hear people/watch their effects. D) shouldn't affect gameplay.

Maybe there should be an in-server option so the next time they join they dl it.

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Re: Maybe rNd does need a point shop (including TTT)
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2013, 06:49:55 AM »
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How to balance what content is available and when so that gameplay isn't sacrificed.Please feel free to list them.

We could disable modifications for people who are Stalker/Slender or a disguised traitor and maybe some others, the reason for disguised traitors is you wouldn't have your stuff on you and still not show your name to anyone, so it would probably take the same amount of effort to guess who you are. Maybe when you press the disguiser key, it makes all your cosmetics transparent along with it's default function. Or we could just make them disappear but no idea how that'd work out.
Not allow obnoxious cosmetics (Giant hats, trails or anything that glows in general)
Don't know how this would go with Stealthy on SW, we could make the cosmetics go transparent like themselves? This can also apply to the Stalker.

In my opinion you should get points by playing on the server, don't know how many for how much time but I'm sure someone can figure that out.
Now that i think of it, if this actually becomes a thing it would be nice to have some kind of achievements on the server that gave you points and reset at a given time, amount of points/reset time would depend on how hard/easy it is to complete.
You could make a chat command for them or something and add a notice with instructions on how to.

And i have to agree with making it optional to hear taunts, maybe add it to the options menu on TTT? Or just leave it enabled by default and again, make a chat command which disables/enables it if anyone wants to.



These are just a few ideas I'm putting in, i still want ZS back but it's starting to seem unlikely now.


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