I'm still alive. Just broken.

[Monorail Cat]

Hang in there, man.  I forgot where I heard this quote, but it goes a little somethin like this:  "When life closes a door on you, don't be so upset that you fail to see the next one open."  I've been in similar (however less extreme) circumstances a couple times, and I know it sucks.  Just don't let depression rule your life.  I hope you feel better soon.   

[McDreary The Hapless Hamster]

I've stopped smoking over the past few days. The feeling hasn't changed much. I just feel like how I'm comprehending things has changed a little. Tonight I noticed how much I'm annoyed by how much my friends assume I do so much with them in mind. Like one of my best friends assumes if I buy cans of tea that one must be for him. And that I bought my ecig for him and I to share when he has his own and is just to poor to buy stuff for it after he buys a lot of shit.

[Lazord]

I've stopped smoking over the past few days. The feeling hasn't changed much.

Even if the feeling hasn't changed, smoking doesn't make it better either. But good for you going cold turkey for a few days.

[McDreary The Hapless Hamster]

Weed never made me more depressed either, at least not to a point I've noticed. It's mostly just given me more ability to think about where the persons who have played a part in bringing me down are coming from. Like  it helped me realize instead of being angry at a rapist and a little but at her for not reporting him, I learned that I need to support her recovering from trauma.but now that I haven't heard from her in over a month I figure her parents went overprotective on her and I will never hear from her again.

[ٶȻhriʂ]

It's funny how you are starting to become very condescending

I beg to differ. And it's not like you would know, the only time you actually "talk" to me is when you come into my TS3 channel to shout random shit at me then leave. But let's not derail further and be on our ways, I don't want to argue anymore, especially not here.

[FrostBound]

Hapless i am sorry for what happened, but you need to realize one thing here. Being depressed isn't helping anyone, especially you.
And i am glad to hear that you are trying to help out the girl, and that is what you should do.
All these im sorry, and it sucks happened posts aren't helping for shit.
What you needed to hear was that you need to pull your head up again, get out of the ditch you were in, and help the girl and yourself.
In reality, some people think we can help you, but we cant. WE cant do jack, all the help you need is the help you can give yourself.
If you really love this girl as much as you say, you WILL find a way to help her, you have to.
The thing that happened to her, it could have happened to anyone, hell a car could hit you the next day, that's how life is, you never know what will happen or when, but since it happened to her, its up to you to help (not try, help) her, or just sit there and do nothing.
Every person has gone trough something that makes them feel really depressed, but it all depends on how they went trough that time of their life.
Now i trust that you will make the right choice later on, it looks like you have started to make it already.
Also for the people arguing on this post, this is a post to try and help hapless, not a place to bitch on someones post.
And if anyone asks why i said something like this.
It's because he needed to hear it.

[ursus]

   

If it's really that bad that you have to suffer weed withdrawal, you should reaaally seek help for that.

he said he's "running on sleep and weed" which indicates that he's probably using it very frequently and heavily to try to mitigate the depression

weed IS physically harmless when used responsibly, but responsible use is the key concept here

although it's less addictive than almost every drug on the market including caffeine, any substance will create withdrawal symptoms if you rely on it to accomplish a task (especially one vital to life, such as relieving depression) and then suddenly remove it from your life

what I'm suggesting is that he wean himself off of it slowly to the point where there's no longer a reliance present

I can easily talk about this somewhere else but it's probably time for us both to keep the discussion on track

I coulda sworn everyone likes to go "HURR DURR WEED IS GOOD 4 U ITS NOT A DRUG NOTHING BAD EVER HAPPENS".

thank you for this incredibly concise, insightful, and well-founded argument

Hapless i am sorry for what happened, but you need to realize one thing here. Being depressed isn't helping anyone, especially you.

And if anyone asks why i said something like this.
It's because he needed to hear it.

I know your intentions are good, but what is wrong with you

"I'm sorry that you have such terrible circumstances but you're harming yourself and others by being upset about them and you should stop"

"don't worry, you need to hear this trust me"

i appreciate all you guys trying your best to be supportive but there's more to assisting someone with depression than telling them what they already know, i.e. "being depressed is a bad"

[FrostBound]

Well yeah, he is hurting himself the most by being depressed like that, and he needs to stop before he fucks himself over with something.
And i don't really see what we can do besides give our opinions, unless you wanna drive to where he lives or something similar.

[ursus]

Well yeah, he is hurting himself the most by being depressed like that, and he needs to stop before he fucks himself over with something.
And i don't really see what we can do besides give our opinions, unless you wanna drive to where he lives or something similar.

you keep talking about it like he gets up every morning like "well gosh darn, it seems as if my life is falling apart! i'd better be depressed to fully enjoy the extent of my misery!"

it's possible to be self-indulgent in sadness about something, but this is a completely different situation

if you honestly believe that people choose to be depressed i don't know what to tell you other than that i hope you never become a parent for everyone's sake

[Sabb]

   
he said he's "running on sleep and weed" which indicates that he's probably using it very frequently and heavily to try to mitigate the depression

weed IS physically harmless when used responsibly, but responsible use is the key concept here

although it's less addictive than almost every drug on the market including caffeine, any substance will create withdrawal symptoms if you rely on it to accomplish a task (especially one vital to life, such as relieving depression) and then suddenly remove it from your life

what I'm suggesting is that he wean himself off of it slowly to the point where there's no longer a reliance present

I can easily talk about this somewhere else but it's probably time for us both to keep the discussion on track

thank you for this incredibly concise, insightful, and well-founded argument

I know your intentions are good, but what is wrong with you

"I'm sorry that you have such terrible circumstances but you're harming yourself and others by being upset about them and you should stop"

"don't worry, you need to hear this trust me"

i appreciate all you guys trying your best to be supportive but there's more to assisting someone with depression than telling them what they already know, i.e. "being depressed is a bad"

Would just like to put this out there that if you're to experience ACTUAL withdrawal from weed (not breaking a psychological dependency habit), which is possible from my understanding, then you've got some serious issues and must have way more weed than you know what to do with. Either way withdrawal from weed is a walk in the park compared to what most people associate withdrawal symptoms to. I really wouldn't be concerned with him going through actual withdrawal.

I don't think it's healthy to so strictly depend on anything for mental 'stability' though, unless there's actually a major condition which requires such a thing. If anything it'd probably just slowly hack away a bit at a person's confidence and dignity after extreme indulgences consistently over a period of time. As long as you watch out and make sure you don't feel like you're becoming reliant on it and like you're incapable of functioning in any aspect without it then you're fine. Though I'd hope that goes without saying.

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Also thought I'd point out that I'd wish people would stop making subtle ignorant accusations and stabs at people whether it's mcdreary or anyone else. It's genuinely annoying me reading through the comments seeing people posting with such passive aggressive and snide posts consisting of one to two sentences generally unrelated to the thread, or at least which are rude and unnecessary. If you feel like mcdreary should keep quiet about his issues, then I feel you should keep quiet as well and ignore the thread as I'm certain others are doing.

[Cake Faice]

thank you for this incredibly concise, insightful, and well-founded argument

Maybe because I didn't feel like typing out an essay on what most people imply when someone mentions "weed". But claiming it as "Physically Harmless" when used responsible can go into such a wide array of circumstances, that it's very debatable on wither or not it's harmless. But as stated, rather not derail the thread with this.

[blαh2355]

Well yeah, he is hurting himself the most by being depressed like that, and he needs to stop before he fucks himself over with something.
And i don't really see what we can do besides give our opinions, unless you wanna drive to where he lives or something similar.

People can't just decide to be depressed or not. They BECOME depressed. Go easy on him frostbound, it's a time where a person feels like they're helpless and can't do anything about it.

If need be Hapless, we're here for you. Sorry for all these events to happen to you.

[ursus]

Maybe because I didn't feel like typing out an essay on what most people imply when someone mentions "weed". But claiming it as "Physically Harmless" when used responsible can go into such a wide array of circumstances, that it's very debatable on wither or not it's harmless. But as stated, rather not derail the thread with this.

although i understand and know many people who fit the stereotype you're invoking, my point was that the comment was completely unnecessary and kind of just a broad ad hominem in nature

i don't understand what you're referring to with "wide array of circumstances" and it sounds like you're trying to just leave room for an imaginary scenario in which it's somehow detrimental to one's health

the idea of that statement itself is ridiculous because "responsible use" implies that you're using it in a non-harmful way to begin with

either way it doesn't really matter to me as long as the end result is positive

Would just like to put this out there that if you're to experience ACTUAL withdrawal from weed (not breaking a psychological dependency habit), which is possible from my understanding, then you've got some serious issues and must have way more weed than you know what to do with. Either way withdrawal from weed is a walk in the park compared to what most people associate withdrawal symptoms to. I really wouldn't be concerned with him going through actual withdrawal.

"actual withdrawal" like with hard drugs isn't really what i'm worried about, but it's been shown that people who smoke weed regularly and in large doses usually experience mild to moderate symptoms like irritability, etc. upon cessation which he probably doesn't need to deal with if he already has a lot of problems on hand

man

dreary, just try to find things that cheer you up and identify the things you can and cannot do to help your situation

try to pay attention to this picture instead:

[Sabb]

Maybe because I didn't feel like typing out an essay on what most people imply when someone mentions "weed". But claiming it as "Physically Harmless" when used responsible can go into such a wide array of circumstances, that it's very debatable on wither or not it's harmless. But as stated, rather not derail the thread with this.

Whether
as in whether or not that statement's true, I agree that it has little place in this thread.

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To expand a bit on what I said previously for you personally mcdreary, I personally have no issues with weed but I think maybe in a post like this you'd like to hold back on mentioning it a tad? To avoid such discussions. And to maybe discourage some negative opinions that have been mentioned. Unless you actually want to discuss it. As someone else said though, we can't really find a miracle solution for your situation unless you just want to talk to someone about it and get it all out. Not  to criticize your coping methods, but I do suggest going to a therapist if that's the case. Not that what you're doing is wrong, but whereas on a forum like this we would simply be more of an ear without much to say in useful advice, a therapist would do the same yet be able to make more educated suggestions with how you cope. Ofc if you can't afford it or are strongly against it but it's something to think about, not to be too cliche.

All I can say though is that you'll want to figure out when it's time to give up on anything that's becoming normal to you, but know how and where to move on before you jump the fence. Don't sit on it for to long waiting though. I think that applies to your situation in several ways.

[Cake Faice]

although i understand and know many people who fit the stereotype you're invoking, my point was that the comment was completely unnecessary and kind of just a broad ad hominem in nature

i don't understand what you're referring to with "wide array of circumstances" and it sounds like you're trying to just leave room for an imaginary scenario in which it's somehow detrimental to one's health

the idea of that statement itself is ridiculous because "responsible use" implies that you're using it in a non-harmful way to begin with

"Wide array of circumstances" as in, other people have different ideas of what is considered responsible use, whether it be once in a blue moon, once in a while, once a week, once a day ect, along with how said person acts while under the influence.