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Re: Obama decides to strike Syria but seeks congressional approval
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2013, 10:20:38 AM »
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This is a global clusterfuck D:
Russia and China leave the UN security council...
So 3 of the worlds supernations are at each others troaths ....


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Re: Obama decides to strike Syria but seeks congressional approval
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2013, 10:39:55 AM »
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This definitely looks like pre-WWIII. Both World Wars started by chains of offence because of allies being attacked. X attacks Y. Z is a friend of Y and decides to attack X. C, who is an ally to X, retaliates against Z. Then B joins C in the attacks to Z. Blah blah blah
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Re: Obama decides to strike Syria but seeks congressional approval
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2013, 02:21:07 PM »
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This definitely looks like pre-WWIII. Both World Wars started by chains of offencem because of allies being attacked. X attacks Y. Z is a friend of Y and decides to attack X. C, who is an ally to X, retaliates against Z. Then B joins C in the attacks to Z. Blah blah blah

Like a said, global clusterfuck in the making...
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Re: Obama decides to strike Syria but seeks congressional approval
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2013, 01:26:42 PM »
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Even if this doesn't escalate into WW3, it's going to be expensive. Very expensive.

As of now, Obama doesn't sound like he has a plan. Or if he does, it sounds like "We'll throw a few missiles at them and hope they back down". You can't just shoot at another country without some serious backlash. And that backlash is going to be war. And war costs a lot.

Just 1 Tomahawk cruise missile costs just under a million and a half.

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Re: Obama decides to strike Syria but seeks congressional approval
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2013, 05:13:34 PM »
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I'm pretty sure the economic interests of opposing countries are much higher than going to war. The world isn't the same way it was 50 years ago.
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Re: Obama decides to strike Syria but seeks congressional approval
« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2013, 08:41:46 PM »
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Obama's alternative to bombing up things instead of deploying troops won't make a difference in the situation. I found this similar to the situation.


       
                                                

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Re: Obama decides to strike Syria but seeks congressional approval
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2013, 11:41:27 AM »
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It is exceedingly unlikely that this is going to escalate into world war III. The circumstances surrounding pearl harbor was vastly different than what Syria would be. For one there isn't a world war currently going on, unlike during pearl harbor. Remember pearl harbor was only the US's official entry into WWII everyone else had already been going at it.

As for strikes in Syria, it is far too late for them to do any good. If we wanted them to be effective they should have taken place without warning, as soon as they found out chemical weapons had been used. Assad has had two weeks to move critical assets around, and with potentially putting a time limit on the action it, it tells Syria that they just have to hold out for 90 days.

So at this juncture it is all just political flapping with no real effect on the situation.
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Re: Obama decides to strike Syria but seeks congressional approval
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2013, 12:08:20 PM »
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It is exceedingly unlikely that this is going to escalate into world war III. The circumstances surrounding pearl harbor was vastly different than what Syria would be. For one there isn't a world war currently going on, unlike during pearl harbor. Remember pearl harbor was only the US's official entry into WWII everyone else had already been going at it.
I don't have too much of a hope that it will either but it really does seem that it's the closest we've got to it since WW2.
As for strikes in Syria, it is far too late for them to do any good. If we wanted them to be effective they should have taken place without warning, as soon as they found out chemical weapons had been used. Assad has had two weeks to move critical assets around, and with potentially putting a time limit on the action it, it tells Syria that they just have to hold out for 90 days.
The thing is such proof does not exist. The US saying that it has the evidence of the chemical attacks by Assad's regime is almost an identical case to the Iraq war propaganda which we all know how it ended or perhaps I should say still continues... If US would have had or will strike Assad and manage to remove his regime the chances are more then likely that it will be the exact same outcome in that region as in other middle east countries that US, NATO and Israel has destabilized so far.


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Re: Obama decides to strike Syria but seeks congressional approval
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2013, 04:03:36 AM »
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http://rt.com/op-edge/syria-world-hate-message-604/
A very good article that I think everyone should read. It nails pretty much everything.


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Re: Obama decides to strike Syria but seeks congressional approval
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2013, 04:48:45 AM »
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http://rt.com/op-edge/syria-world-hate-message-604/
A very good article that I think everyone should read. It nails pretty much everything.

That about sums it up, its sad how these power corrupt shits act when they can't have everything....


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Re: Obama decides to strike Syria but seeks congressional approval
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2013, 05:02:36 AM »
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I don't have too much of a hope that it will either but it really does seem that it's the closest we've got to it since WW2.The thing is such proof does not exist. The US saying that it has the evidence of the chemical attacks by Assad's regime is almost an identical case to the Iraq war propaganda which we all know how it ended or perhaps I should say still continues... If US would have had or will strike Assad and manage to remove his regime the chances are more then likely that it will be the exact same outcome in that region as in other middle east countries that US, NATO and Israel has destabilized so far.

Actually it's a fact that they used chemical weapons, but it's currently unknown whether or not Assad issued the order to use them. Not that it matters, he's responsible for his people.

An American attack might be a bad decision, but it might be a worse decision to let them keep murdering each other.

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Re: Obama decides to strike Syria but seeks congressional approval
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2013, 11:50:21 AM »
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http://rt.com/op-edge/syria-world-hate-message-604/
A very good article that I think everyone should read. It nails pretty much everything.

Ah, keep in mind there are some very good hidden points in those arguments, however it is also very targeted to remove thought from any blame on their country for anything.

It's a good tactic but all nations have their caveats. While does inspire better thinking of other issues, don't also forget about the one at hand in their country.

The distribution of less-than-elite classes was not discussed either, which might lead to a few interesting points. Is she really who she says she is, what is her financial status, etc.

There might be a widely different opinion from another Syrian inside the country without the ability to make a video. Which also makes a point as to how she feels like her opinion speaks for the entire Syrian population.

Nobody can believe that, especially when a nation, that she said was so diverse and preserving of different ideas, would definitely have people with different opinions about the entire situation as well as the individual or groups of governments and their policies.
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Re: Obama decides to strike Syria but seeks congressional approval
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2013, 12:14:12 PM »
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Ah, keep in mind there are some very good hidden points in those arguments, however it is also very targeted to remove thought from any blame on their country for anything.

It's a good tactic but all nations have their caveats. While does inspire better thinking of other issues, don't also forget about the one at hand in their country.

The distribution of less-than-elite classes was not discussed either, which might lead to a few interesting points. Is she really who she says she is, what is her financial status, etc.

There might be a widely different opinion from another Syrian inside the country without the ability to make a video. Which also makes a point as to how she feels like her opinion speaks for the entire Syrian population.

Nobody can believe that, especially when a nation, that she said was so diverse and preserving of different ideas, would definitely have people with different opinions about the entire situation as well as the individual or groups of governments and their policies.
Of course I always have that in mind but over this whole summer I've became really interested into these kind of things and I was pretty much doing research on that kind of stuff that was said in the article probably every day. Literally. And I still do it to this day and what I have found and what conclusions I made are pretty much the same as those things mentioned by the article so I'm almost positive it's legit. You all can have my word on that.

Also more happenings:
Syria welcomes Russia's call to handover chemical weapons

Apparently some RT sources have claimed that rebels were planning a false flag attack, I myself am pretty skeptical about this:
Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from govt controlled lands - RT sources

So what now are you gonna do Isra- I mean America?
 


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Re: Obama decides to strike Syria but seeks congressional approval
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2013, 02:06:11 PM »
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Well shit is about to go down
I am seriously dissapointed in america ( no offence to any americans here)