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--- Quote from: Roach :3 on May 29, 2013, 11:44:31 AM ---Yeah, they don't want Syria to have anti-air weaponry due to the fact that if they do have, we could be attacked by nuclear weapons or foot soldiers, while they don't have anti-air we have control of the air so we can keep an eye on what they do.

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Nuclear weapons? The Israel is the only country in that region who has a nuclear weapon, Syria does not have a nuclear weapon and even if they do, what difference do the SAMs make?


--- Quote from: Roach :3 on May 29, 2013, 11:44:31 AM ---By the way do you even know why those air-attacks were sent out recently? to destroy different weapon shipments for different terror organizations.

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I wouldn't be so sure about that. Israel responded to the world only after Syria announced that it got attacked by Israel. If there was really a weapon shipment that they were destroying then why didn't they said it right after the attack?


--- Quote from: Roach :3 on May 29, 2013, 11:44:31 AM ---Promised land, at first Israel was made into two, Palestinian side and Israel side, when the Palestinians had most of the territory, they decided to be assholes and wanted to take the whole country, so basically they got nothing at all.

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Israel was the one who wanted Palestine, not the other way around.


CodeKyuubi:
Considering Israel is surrounded on all sides by nations that would love nothing more than to exterminate them, I think they have every reason to worry about their national security.

As for the Israeli vs Russia / Georgia argument, places say that Georgia didn't have any armored divisions and that their tanks were nearly all T-72s. Whereas Israel does have armored divisions and also fields the Merkava III/IVs. On the other hand, until a few years ago, Russia's military was dying from lack of funding, and while their technology is top class, they lacked actual numbers to be effective.

Israel would put up a hell of a fight for sure against Russia. Israeli forces are not only trained and up to date technologically, but they're also battle-tested and determined. They're also supported by the USA, who can field more tonnage out on the water than the next fourteen largest navies combined, and enough tanks and planes to surpass both "quantity is its own quality" and "quality over quantity". They have quality and quantity.

Basically, if Syria and terrorist groups get their hands on modern SAM systems, it means they can knock down Israeli jets, which means they can make Israel more vulnerable, which means they have greater incentive to attack and exterminate the "heathen" Jews. So to Israel, the weapons systems are a clear and present threat to their security and safety.

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--- Quote from: CodeKyuubi on May 30, 2013, 02:57:53 AM ---Considering Israel is surrounded on all sides by nations that would love nothing more than to exterminate them, I think they have every reason to worry about their national security.

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That's because Israel basically wanted to kick out all Muslims out of the Palestine area and surrounding areas are mostly Muslims so it's not a big surprise.

--- Quote from: CodeKyuubi on May 30, 2013, 02:57:53 AM ---As for the Israeli vs Russia / Georgia argument, places say that Georgia didn't have any armored divisions and that their tanks were nearly all T-72s. Whereas Israel does have armored divisions and also fields the Merkava III/IVs. On the other hand, until a few years ago, Russia's military was dying from lack of funding, and while their technology is top class, they lacked actual numbers to be effective.

Israel would put up a hell of a fight for sure against Russia. Israeli forces are not only trained and up to date technologically, but they're also battle-tested and determined. They're also supported by the USA, who can field more tonnage out on the water than the next fourteen largest navies combined, and enough tanks and planes to surpass both "quantity is its own quality" and "quality over quantity". They have quality and quantity.

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The only reason why Israel would be able to put up a hell of a fight is because of the US financial and military support otherwise Russians would crush Israel but if this were to happen then we would probably have a 3rd world war and this wouldn't be Russia's or Syria's fault.


--- Quote from: CodeKyuubi on May 30, 2013, 02:57:53 AM ---Basically, if Syria and terrorist groups get their hands on modern SAM systems, it means they can knock down Israeli jets, which means they can make Israel more vulnerable, which means they have greater incentive to attack and exterminate the "heathen" Jews. So to Israel, the weapons systems are a clear and present threat to their security and safety.

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Considering the recent attacks done by Israel they obviously don't want Palestine to retaliate or even have a way to defend them selves. Also don't forget that they would only be able to knock out Israels jets only if they violate their air space, besides, I'm pretty sure Russians are going to be in control of those missiles anyway.

CodeKyuubi:

--- Quote ---That's because Israel basically wanted to kick out all Muslims out of the Palestine area and surrounding areas are mostly Muslims so it's not a big surprise.
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From what I've read, it seemed like it began because Palestine refused to give up land to the Jews after the Holocaust through the UN Partition Plan, which sparked a civil war between the Arabs and the Jews. The UN Plan was approved and after the British pulled out, Israel went ahead and declared themselves a state (Seeing as they were technically approved by the international community at the time), at which point other Arab nations intervened in Palestine, where Israel won.

And that, while there were Israelis that wanted to force out the Palestinians, originally many Jewish leaders supported living in peace with their neighbors, but fought back when Palestine refused to give up any land.

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--- Quote from: CodeKyuubi on May 30, 2013, 09:23:42 AM ---From what I've read, it seemed like it began because Palestine refused to give up land to the Jews after the Holocaust through the UN Partition Plan, which sparked a civil war between the Arabs and the Jews. The UN Plan was approved and after the British pulled out, Israel went ahead and declared themselves a state (Seeing as they were technically approved by the international community at the time), at which point other Arab nations intervened in Palestine, where Israel won.

And that, while there were Israelis that wanted to force out the Palestinians, originally many Jewish leaders supported living in peace with their neighbors, but fought back when Palestine refused to give up any land.

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Well, you can't blame Palestinians for not wanting to leave their home.

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