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HideoKojima:

--- Quote from: Deacon on November 23, 2012, 05:04:26 PM ---GOD

I'LL FIX THE M3

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FFI - Victory

Travelsonic:

--- Quote from: This Cactus on November 23, 2012, 01:19:48 AM ---For yellow, I don't like Jihads... it may have a 50/50 chance of costing ur T round w/o killing anyone since as they hear it... obviously they avoid you also when you pull it out.. and "attack" it to other players.... they see you holding it, and hear the scream then they kill you, mostly on Jihad kills it may nearly be 1, C4 can be planted in secret spots... Jihad is more of a Crowded-Place-Wep but ppl rarely stick together unless provens+dets. (Nah...)

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People crowd together a lot.  Come play on |nXs| - same crowding habits on the maps we're familiar with, you'll see how a strategically timed jihad can hurt [especially when I'm dishing it out].


On dust I was last T, 9 innos left - against all odds I jihaded in a "oh fuck it" way - ended up missing only 1 -  ducked out of the way.  Good blast radius.


The thing is, Jihads can fail - so can knives, poltergeists, newton launchers, the fact they can fail is no reason enough to say they should not be added IMO.  If you want to spend your T round by trying to suicide - why should the fact that it could fail stop you from being able to?

memo3300:

--- Quote from: Samo on November 22, 2012, 03:26:07 PM ---We've discussed the Jihad bomb a fair bit, and there are a few problems with it which must be changed if it is added.

One being that you don't get any kills counted with it, the damage logs will count it as suicide and no karma will be lost. This means any innocent can exploit the loopholes minge with it (yes, I have done it before)

Other than that I'm all for this, along with a slight buff for the M3. I'm one of the people who actually use it.

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>Guys x Press jihad thing

>Guys xgain inmunity or get added 9000 healt.

>bomb goes boom dealing radius damage.

>not less that 1 second after boom, comand explode for the guy x.


win?


im not sure if that would work tough.... and also there probably are easier ways to code it.

Travelsonic:

--- Quote from: memo3300 on November 24, 2012, 02:23:44 PM --->Guys x Press jihad thing

>Guys xgain inmunity or get added 9000 healt.

>bomb goes boom dealing radius damage.

>not less that 1 second after boom, comand explode for the guy x.


win?


im not sure if that would work tough.... and also there probably are easier ways to code it.

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Or why not just leave it like it is on other servers?  The thing about it is that the weapon is only as good as the user - if he can time it right, and sneak up on the right group of people in the right spot and not get killed, success - if not failure, I don't exactly see the problem.





As for the people who inevitably will say jihads are op:

Please learn how the jihad bomb works.

- You are bound to it - once you start setting it off you can not stop it [though you CAN switch to an incendiary grenade and throw it right before explding - did that with a SimTex on |nXs| once :D]
- You can still be killed before it goes off
- The blast does not go through walls, or even props - unlike C4 - and thus is easy to avoid unless people around you are morons.
- Unlike C4 it fucks your karma up if you kill your T buds with it.

Monorail Cat:

--- Quote from: Travelsonic on November 25, 2012, 09:17:14 AM ---As for the people who inevitably will say jihads are op:

Please learn how the jihad bomb works.

- You are bound to it - once you start setting it off you can not stop it [though you CAN switch to an incendiary grenade and throw it right before explding - did that with a SimTex on |nXs| once :D]
- You can still be killed before it goes off
- The blast does not go through walls, or even props - unlike C4 - and thus is easy to avoid unless people around you are morons.
- Unlike C4 it fucks your karma up if you kill your T buds with it.

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The biggest problem, I think, is if an inno happens to get hold of one.  This is why I suggested that it be disentigrated automatically if its original holder dies.

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