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Activity, activity, fucking activity.
Prox:
--- Quote from: Death M.D. on October 25, 2012, 09:50:17 AM ---VIP's are not getting more power over others. I'm still the one giving out bans.
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--- Quote from: Death M.D. on October 25, 2012, 09:50:17 AM ---The reason why I was asking was becuase I wanted to see if people agreed on who they'd feel most comfortable doing this. I already decided on Deacon, and Alkaline if he's able/willing. Unit too, maybe.
As to the others who said they're willing, I appreciate it, but honestly if I know you well enough, I already know you're willing to help. I'm still the one handing out bans, so in a way, I'm being biased about who I have do this for me.
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You contradict your self. You want to select a few VIPs out of everyone which means that those few selected get more authority over the others since they are allowed to make judgement on the reports and others don't. Instead of this, why can't those few selected people just be promoted to admin? As I have already said, we need more admins, especially in-game, and if they are trusted to handle reports, then I think they would do great as admins, especially now.
I also feel disappointed that I'm not being considered as one of those who could help approve reports, after all, I keep making reports on a daily basis and I made a whole rule list mostly on my own. Is there something that I need to improve?
Deathie:
--- Quote from: Prox on October 25, 2012, 10:05:05 AM ---You contradict your self. You want to select a few VIPs out of everyone which means that those few selected get more authority over the others since they are allowed to make judgement on the reports and others don't.
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I never contradicted myself.
Nobody is getting more authority. I'm the one actually banning people.
The reason why I only want to select a couple people is because I don't like some of the other VIP's decision making skills. I'm only picking people who I personally trust. The only purpose of this thread was to see if others had a problem with that, which so far, you're the only one.
--- Quote from: Prox on October 25, 2012, 10:05:05 AM ---Instead of this, why can't those few selected people just be promoted to admin?
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Because I don't control who gets promoted to admin, and the ones that I do want promoted, I've already voted for them and given them my support.
--- Quote from: Prox on October 25, 2012, 10:05:05 AM ---I also feel disappointed that I'm not being considered as one of those who could help approve reports, after all, I keep making reports on a daily basis and I made a whole rule list mostly on my own. Is there something that I need to improve?
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Yeah, you need to stop acting like a self-entitled cunt, and fix your god damn attitude. You say and do things without thinking, and when you're confronted about certain issues, you get defensive and try to pin the blame on others. You're EXACTLY like Jman.
Prox:
--- Quote from: Death M.D. on October 25, 2012, 10:15:26 AM ---I never contradicted myself.
Nobody is getting more authority. I'm the one actually banning people.
The reason why I only want to select a couple people is because I don't like some of the other VIP's decision making skills. I'm only picking people who I personally trust. The only purpose of this thread was to see if others had a problem with that, which so far, you're the only one.
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Well, I think that when some VIPs can and some VIPs can't approve reports then it's giving more power to some VIPs. But I do understand why you would want that, I myself would trust some of the VIPs decisions more then others.
--- Quote from: Death M.D. on October 25, 2012, 10:15:26 AM ---Yeah, you need to stop acting like a self-entitled cunt, and fix your god damn attitude.
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Okay now, really, was calling me a self-entitled cunt really necessary? Yeah, I did it in the past for some time, but now I don't imply that my opinion is superior over others.
--- Quote from: Death M.D. on October 25, 2012, 10:15:26 AM ---You say and do things without thinking
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To me it seems that you are exaggerating. I'm not saying all of my decisions were well thought out, but I believe most of them were and when it comes to keeping servers clear, I do believe I know what to do. If not, I request assistance from others.
--- Quote from: Death M.D. on October 25, 2012, 10:15:26 AM ---and when you're confronted about certain issues, you get defensive and try to pin the blame on others. You're EXACTLY like Jman.
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I admit, in that thread about AB I did that, but it doesn't mean that I can't improve, but never forget that some things may look different from someone else's perspective.
Also I do believe I should mention that I do enjoy participating in discussions that I have something to say or if I think something others are saying is wrong.
Deathie:
To anyone watching, you'd better get some popcorn, you're in for a long ride.
--- Quote from: Prox on October 25, 2012, 10:40:19 AM ---Well, I think that when some VIPs can and some VIPs can't approve reports then it's giving more power to some VIPs. But I do understand why you would want that, I myself would trust some of the VIPs decisions more then others.
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For the last time, they don't get more power.
Think about it this way, if I ask one (A) of two children (A and B) to bring me my keys from another room, does that mean one has more power than the other because he's tasked with bringing me my keys? I'm only choosing A because he's more reliable than B, and I'll probably get my keys back without a problem. If I asked B to do it, then I'd probably wait longer or never see my keys again.
If we threw the equivalent of admin in this scenario, not only would I be asking the child to bring me my keys, they'd also be going to the car, starting the ignition, and driving off.
You're comparing a full privilege to a simple favor. They're not getting admin, nor do they have any sort of admin power. They're only going over evidence and confirming weather or not it's legitimate. That's it.
--- Quote from: Prox on October 25, 2012, 10:40:19 AM ---Okay now, really, was calling me a self-entitled cunt really necessary? Yeah, I did it in the past for some time, but now I don't imply that my opinion is superior over others.
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In a way, it was, since you seem to respond best whenever insults are thrown. I was talking about how pretty much all your arguments usually end with "I deserve be admin".
--- Quote from: Prox on October 25, 2012, 10:40:19 AM ---To me it seems that you are exaggerating. I'm not saying all of my decisions were well thought out, but I believe most of them were and when it comes to keeping servers clear, I do believe I know what to do. If not, I request assistance from others.
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That's fine and all, but you tend to jump the gun waaaaaaaaay more than someone should. I'm not saying all your actions are like that, but a good sum of them are. You're impulsive, and have a really bad attitude in general.
--- Quote from: Prox on October 25, 2012, 10:40:19 AM ---I admit, in that thread about AB I did that, but it doesn't mean that I can't improve, but never forget that some things may look different from someone else's perspective.
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I never said you couldn't improve, but you really haven't done anything to prove you have.
I should also mention Jman always said the same thing too. He'd constantly say he could change, and to give him a chance. It was only after his fiftieth that some action was finally taken.
--- Quote from: Prox on October 25, 2012, 10:40:19 AM ---Also I do believe I should mention that I do enjoy participating in discussions that I have something to say or if I think something others are saying is wrong.
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Opinions and facts aren't even on the same spectrum. Don't try to act like they are.
TehHank:
--- Quote from: Death M.D. on October 25, 2012, 11:32:19 AM ---To anyone watching, you'd better get some popcorn, you're in for a long ride.
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