Removal of the M3?

[Eion Kilant 739]

So I just did a field test to confirm this:

At full karma, at point blank range, directly to the face, it will not instantly kill someone. This, plus the general less damage it does and the rate of fire make it 100% inferior to the Shotgun. The only advantage it might have is accuracy, but I do not think it has been increased enough to warrant keeping this gun. It simply serves no purpose.

slight update; secrets to the m3

close=1 shot

far=9 shots

[whagman]

LOL

[HideoKojima]

How about a BUFF on it? The gun is a piece of shit compared to the shotgun. If we have to wait to shoot again it should be way stronger and kill people easier imo.

Famas needs a small buff too imo.

[Deacon]

I made it to have a higher damage-per-buck ratio than the normal shotgun. the benelli shoots 6 buck per shot, while the m3 has 8. the distance is what determines the damage. the base shotgun code determines spread, which means there may be some shot that miss

[Eion Kilant 739]

I made it to have a higher damage-per-buck ratio than the normal shotgun. the benelli shoots 6 buck per shot, while the m3 has 8. the distance is what determines the damage. the base shotgun code determines spread, which means there may be some shot that miss

Alright, I will preform another test when I can to ensure this is correct. If so, I'll get the moderators to lock this.

[Deacon]

Alright, I will preform another test when I can to ensure this is correct. If so, I'll get the moderators to lock this.

Don't forget it might be the hitboxes in garrysmod (aka, shit).
Most of that buck probably lands in the chest, not the head, since it spreads so much. That might be why they only get 80 of the damage, and not the full payload.

Try a direct on shot with someone in the T pose (or holstered, the TTT equivalent)
vs
Someone who has a gun and is leaning forward slightly.

Also take a shotgun and the pump at similar distances and shoot the wall. You'll se what I meant about the spread.

[whagman]

deacon you flipped it. the m3 shoots 6 and benelli does 8. literally just tested

[Eion Kilant 739]

deacon you flipped it. the m3 shoots 6 and benelli does 8. literally just tested

Yup.

Spoiler: Proof (click to show/hide)

[Deacon]

Its been awhile since we did these. I can't quite remember what we did. Though I think I can remember that now, we've done this in the past to try to boost the damage; adding in another shot. I suggest we do that again, seeing as how it isn't there anymore.