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The fucking karma system
Cake Faice:
--- Quote from: Sabb on August 24, 2012, 07:33:49 PM ---Yes, in my opinion, he was.
And the karma shit I'm not saying they're going to do any of that? I'm saying they're going to play and end up finding it to be far more fun, as I'm sure that you would too.
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Well if they're hopping around server to server, especially right from normal servers with the normal karma system implemented, a good first impression that most of them are going to make is that the perma karma is pretty stupid, like a great sum of us did at first. But as for them, they'll end up disconnecting and joining a different server probably with the default karma system. If they find out about the perma karma on the map change, along with your suggestion, they'll really think it's stupid (in their perspective) that your karma stays with map changes.
Of course 2 or 3 players may like the fact that karma stays permanent, but will probably end up quitting if coolz implemented your idea, knowing that their hard earned karma depletes with map changes anyway.
Sabb:
--- Quote from: Cake Faice on August 24, 2012, 07:42:40 PM ---Well if they're hopping around server to server, especially right from normal servers with the normal karma system implemented, a good first impression that most of them are going to make is that the perma karma is pretty stupid, like a great sum of us did at first. But as for them, they'll end up disconnecting and joining a different server probably with the default karma system. If they find out about the perma karma on the map change, along with your suggestion, they'll really think it's stupid (in their perspective) that your karma stays with map changes.
Of course 2 or 3 players may like the fact that karma stays permanent, but will probably end up quitting if coolz implemented your idea, knowing that their hard earned karma depletes with map changes anyway.
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I really don't see that happening though. If anything the complete opposite. Maybe 1 or 2 people NOT enjoying it.
Deacon:
--- Quote from: Seb on August 24, 2012, 07:06:23 PM ---Deacon, the core of each of your posts is you saying that YOU are an effective player even with low karma.
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--- Quote from: Deacon on August 24, 2012, 06:34:28 PM ---I just showed that a player of any sort can still be effective. Which is exactly what you guys are arguing is the problem with karma loss. I'm not saying that, I'm showing it. I took the time to prove it. You can no longer say "With low karma, you can't kill anyone" because with half karma, I showed you can still be effective.
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The "you" in this instance is the player with low karma. Do not say that low karma means you can't play, or damage, etc. THAT is what I was showing.
THE CORE OF THIS POST IS THAT YOU DO A DECENT ENOUGH AMOUNT OF DAMAGE WITH LOW KARMA.
Cake Faice:
--- Quote from: Sabb on August 24, 2012, 07:44:09 PM ---I really don't see that happening though. If anything the complete opposite. Maybe 1 or 2 people NOT enjoying it.
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Here, think of it this way:
We have xXCuntDestroyerXx. He loves to play TTT. He frequents popular TTT servers with normal karma systems. Those servers probably keep the normal karma because they don't have the rdming/trolling problem we do. He stumbles upon our RND server with perma karma + your karma idea. He doesn't know about either until the next map, where he notices his karma was significantly lower.
He'll ask the frequent players, and they'll tell him about the system and blablabla insert reasons here.
And this is where our views conflict.
With mine, he'll say "My karma is permanent and I lose 300 every map change? Who's fucking bright idea was that? Fuck this shit."
xXCuntDestroyerXx disconnects. He wont stick around long enough to think of the reasons and if he agrees with them.
With yours, he'll say "Wow, this system really helps against the baiters and rdmers, I think I'll like it here."
He stays and becomes regular.
Which one is generally going to happen first?
Seb:
--- Quote from: Deacon on August 24, 2012, 07:50:38 PM --- THE CORE OF THIS POST IS THAT YOU DO A DECENT ENOUGH AMOUNT OF DAMAGE WITH LOW KARMA.
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FUCK, NIGGER
YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO A DECENT AMOUNT OF DAMAGE against people who are clearly very bad
BUT THAT'S NOT EXACTLY A COMMON ABILITY THAT EVERYBODY CAN UTILIZE.
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