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Ἆxule:
--- Quote from: semy32 on July 23, 2012, 12:59:13 AM ---There's no need for spanking.
A strong slap,
A strong slap where exactly? And what difference is there between a spanking and a slap other than where you slap them?
a strong pull on the ears
Although this is okay, I still believe a spanking is more effective. The way I see it is pulling an ear is sort of a mother's thing while spanking is a father's thing. At least, that's how I saw it in the old movies.
a cold head shower is enough.
Meh. I'd rather just take the 5 seconds to spank a child and hug him afterwards than spend the time it would take to undress him, pull him in the shower, and dry him off afterwards. Plus, why waste water?
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I'm not saying any of those things are wrong, it's just not the way I was raised and it's not what I think is best.
What people seem to be afraid with spanking their child is that they will fear their parents, which looks like child abuse to most. Easy fix, after spanking the kid, hug him and show him you still love them. That's what my parents did, and I knew they loved me.
Sorry if I'm getting a little too heated over this, it's just I hate it that kids are complete brats and douche bags when they grow up because adults (who probably have brats of their own) are saying simply smacking your kids butt is child abuse. Because of that, we have to suffer for their ignorance and stupidity.
--- Quote from: Cake ecaF on July 23, 2012, 12:11:09 AM ---Exactly, parents don't punish anymore. Instead they just put their kids in "time out", which solves absolutely nothing a large majority of the time. That, or they just give in to the child, or worse case: they don't give a shit about the child. Which then the child will grow up to become troubled because not many people will guide them in the right direction/cared for them.
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My point exactly. That's why when people tell me there are other alternatives, I mentally facepalm myself because more likely than not, they'll tell me timeout or something of the like.
Deathie:
I was never spanked.
That should be enough to disprove Tiger Guys point.
//Point proven since I can't into logic this late at night and ruined my own joke.
Tiger Guy:
--- Quote from: Ἆxule on July 22, 2012, 11:55:17 PM ---I'm sorry, but I don't believe with that at all. My parents spanked me and my brothers when we screwed up, and I'm not dealing with any of the things you've listed. In fact, I'm glad with who I've turned out to be.
Plus, have you noticed the amount of brats and ass holes we have today compared to before?
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I'm not saying you ARE going to be some of those things, I'm saying you're more likely to be some of those things. I was never spanked, and I don't go around calling everyone a pussy ass bitch and whine about trivial shit. I got that info out of a study from the University of Texas at Austin about spanking.
Also, yes I have. It isn't because less people spank their kids, it's because of the society today. It's because of what is being shown on TV, listened to on the radio, or being a witness of. It's ideas as retarded as #YOLO (aka "I'm an useless piece of shit that contributes nothing to society expect how to get herpes before age 19") or people that are retarded as the Westboro Baptist Church ("Those darn fags!") or the Tea Party ("Those darn liberals!"). You can't really blame it on one thing. Spoliness and bratiness are based off of materialism, not discipline (While one can offset the other if done correctly). To quote from an article I read about this:
--- Quote ---While spanking might stop a child in his tracks for the moment, it doesn’t shape his character or give him the resources he needs to make better decisions in the future.
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If a person does something wrong, do you rhythmically slap them, or do you tell them "No, blah blah blah". Of course you don't rhythmically slap them, because you're more likely to get your shit pushed in. Actually thinking about it, I was rhythmically slapped once by my dad. You know what I thought? Not "Oh I'm in the wrong, I'll obey you.". It was more like "Wait until I get that belt and you're going to be sorry." Even the reason of me getting rhythmically slapped was due to bias and just plain wrong.
I felt aggression. I felt anger. I didn't feel fear. I didn't feel sorry. Maybe I'm acting like Patrick Bateman, but that's what I felt and thought.
How would you felt if you were treated like this by the government, or police? I'm not talking about rhythmic slapping, but getting the living shit beat out of you. It's not ethically right, so why is it okay if parents do it. They're basically the 'police' or 'government' of the household. I rather have a household where I can get my say into things without getting rhythmically slapped.
Oh and also, about those brats. The parents more than likely had no backbone in the first place, so they wouldn't do it even if it was 'allowed'. I knew a guy that did get corporeal punishment into his teens, and he still was your typical douchebag. It really depends on your traits, it's what happens to you in your childhood that either enhance them or dull them down.
You can say no without rhythmically slapping your kid.
○ Μαρία ○:
Oh lawd.
Deathie:
--- Quote from: KHMarie on July 23, 2012, 02:35:02 AM ---Oh lawd.
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I hope you realize this is all your fault, and that you should feel bad.
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