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Your responce to Obama's Health Care?
Bovicide:
--- Quote from: Tiger Guy on July 08, 2012, 12:30:17 PM ---Last time I checked, it wasn't making Bob/Sam by Joe/Don insurance, unless Joe/Don worked for Bob/Sam.
Maybe I'm taking what you said out of context, but you're saying that you don't want a tax raise so every US citizen would have healthcare? It seems like you're more of an 'all for one' type of person.
Also, people who don't want health insurance are just plain dumb. What's more dumb is when they give stupid reasons why they don't want to pay for it ("Jesus/God is my insurance!", etc.) Hospital bills are expensive as shit, so if they are in more of a financial hole if they get hurt as to if they actually paid for healthcare. They do the same thing for car insurance, so I don't see why it's so bad to do it on life insurance.
It's more of a common sense thing, not a "HEY! BUY THIS FOR THIS GUY AND THAT GUY BECAUSE YOU MAKE TWICE WHAT THEY MAKE" type of thing.
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You dont seem to be able to understand that making something cheaper for one person means someone else MUST pay more. Typically the balance is maintained by forcing high risk people ( people with prexisting conditions ) to pay more. However, they can't do that anymore, nor can they base price on things like age. So, instead of healthy people paying cheap and sick/risky people paying more, we end up with everyone paying quite a bit. That means that I, as a healthy person, am helping to pay for your bullshit.
This is health insurance. It is a product provided by a company for your benefit as well as theirs. Keep that in mind.
And as Cogs said, for some people health insurance isn't necessary. I for one have no outstanding medical problems, and probably wont pay practically anything in medical bills for the next 5 years. Thus, the choice comes down to if I want to throw some of my money away.
Frankly I am disgusted that some people are so vocal about their opinions when they haven't read a word of the bill.
Rocket50:
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Bump.
You seem to have a blatant lack of empathy for your fellow, but less fortunate American. There are people UNDER the poverty line who cannot afford to eat proper food, let alone visit a doctor for their pre-existing type 1 diabetes. And while they are living in substandard conditions, you're whining about how your disposable income will be taxed more. What a fucking selfish mentality.
Seb:
--- Quote from: Rocket50 on July 17, 2012, 08:42:06 PM ---Bump.
You seem to have a blatant lack of empathy for your fellow, but less fortunate American. There are people UNDER the poverty line who cannot afford to eat proper food, let alone visit a doctor for their pre-existing type 1 diabetes. And while they are living in substandard conditions, you're whining about how your disposable income will be taxed more. What a fucking selfish mentality.
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Darwinism at work. Why should I worry about the average homeless man if he has absolutely nothing to do with me? If I pass by one, sure I'll give some of my change if I'm carrying any, but for the most part it's their own fault they don't have any money. You reap what you sow in this society.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)Although, I personally wouldn't mind making a maximum amount of money somebody can control at any one point. Like around one billion dollars.
Deacon:
--- Quote from: Rocket50 on July 17, 2012, 08:42:06 PM ---Bump.
You seem to have a blatant lack of empathy for your fellow, but less fortunate American. There are people UNDER the poverty line who cannot afford to eat proper food, let alone visit a doctor for their pre-existing type 1 diabetes. And while they are living in substandard conditions, you're whining about how your disposable income will be taxed more. What a fucking selfish mentality.
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Darwinism should not apply to man made structures of society.
It is not evolution that I was born into a poor family, had a bad education, and cannot afford schooling.
The underlying problem here is money; not that I am less of a specimen than you.
Tiger Guy:
--- Quote from: Seb on July 17, 2012, 08:59:21 PM ---Darwinism at work. Why should I worry about the average homeless man if he has absolutely nothing to do with me? If I pass by one, sure I'll give some of my change if I'm carrying any, but for the most part it's their own fault they don't have any money. You reap what you sow in this society.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)Although, I personally wouldn't mind making a maximum amount of money somebody can control at any one point. Like around one billion dollars.
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The thing is that most most millionaires/billionaires get to this level by exploiting the system, lobbying, etc. They do 'reap what you sow' but by fucking with the system.
I'm going to put it this way, which society would you rather live in:
One where everyone has equal opportunity, rights, and healthcare?
or
One where a small percentage of wealthy people get everything and everyone else gets scraps?
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