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Your responce to Obama's Health Care?
Pilgrim:
I thought it was a step closer to free healthcare?
Though I haven't researched it much.
Bovicide:
--- Quote from: Pilgrim on July 08, 2012, 02:15:27 AM ---I thought it was a step closer to free healthcare?
Though I haven't researched it much.
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Free healthcare = "Joe cant afford be bothered with his own healthcare, but Bob could pay for two. Fuck Bob."
And don't give me that "do it for the children" bullshit. You make me spend my hard earned money for the "children", I'm taking my hard earned money elsewhere.
Even this idea of making insurance companies not able to judge based on certain reasonable criteria means that healthy 19 year old Sam has to pay more so that sick ass Don can get cheap ass insurance. Its all the same shit -- it just means that people will wait to get health insurance till they're sick. Wait... we HAVE to buy insurance? Shits unconstitutional -- you can regulate a preexisting industry with taxes, but you cant tax a non-existing industry (people who don't want health insurance) into existence. Since the underpinning premise (people wont get health insurance unless they need it) is broken, the whole thing is broken.
Give Scalia's response to the supreme court decision a read, might teach you a thing or two.
yoshi:
What the fuck is obama's health care.
Tiger Guy:
--- Quote from: Sanders on July 08, 2012, 04:57:31 AM ---Free healthcare = "Joe cant afford be bothered with his own healthcare, but Bob could pay for two. Fuck Bob."
And don't give me that "do it for the children" bullshit. You make me spend my hard earned money for the "children", I'm taking my hard earned money elsewhere.
Even this idea of making insurance companies not able to judge based on certain reasonable criteria means that healthy 19 year old Sam has to pay more so that sick ass Don can get cheap ass insurance. Its all the same shit -- it just means that people will wait to get health insurance till they're sick. Wait... we HAVE to buy insurance? Shits unconstitutional -- you can regulate a preexisting industry with taxes, but you cant tax a non-existing industry (people who don't want health insurance) into existence. Since the underpinning premise (people wont get health insurance unless they need it) is broken, the whole thing is broken.
Give Scalia's response to the supreme court decision a read, might teach you a thing or two.
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Last time I checked, it wasn't making Bob/Sam by Joe/Don insurance, unless Joe/Don worked for Bob/Sam.
Maybe I'm taking what you said out of context, but you're saying that you don't want a tax raise so every US citizen would have healthcare? It seems like you're more of an 'all for one' type of person.
Also, people who don't want health insurance are just plain dumb. What's more dumb is when they give stupid reasons why they don't want to pay for it ("Jesus/God is my insurance!", etc.) Hospital bills are expensive as shit, so if they are in more of a financial hole if they get hurt as to if they actually paid for healthcare. They do the same thing for car insurance, so I don't see why it's so bad to do it on life insurance.
It's more of a common sense thing, not a "HEY! BUY THIS FOR THIS GUY AND THAT GUY BECAUSE YOU MAKE TWICE WHAT THEY MAKE" type of thing.
cogsandspigots:
--- Quote from: Tiger Guy on July 08, 2012, 12:30:17 PM ---Last time I checked, it wasn't making Bob/Sam by Joe/Don insurance, unless Joe/Don worked for Bob/Sam.
Maybe I'm taking what you said out of context, but you're saying that you don't want a tax raise so every US citizen would have healthcare? It seems like you're more of an 'all for one' type of person.
Also, people who don't want health insurance are just plain dumb. What's more dumb is when they give stupid reasons why they don't want to pay for it ("Jesus/God is my insurance!", etc.) Hospital bills are expensive as shit, so if they are in more of a financial hole if they get hurt as to if they actually paid for healthcare. They do the same thing for car insurance, so I don't see why it's so bad to do it on life insurance.
It's more of a common sense thing, not a "HEY! BUY THIS FOR THIS GUY AND THAT GUY BECAUSE YOU MAKE TWICE WHAT THEY MAKE" type of thing.
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Stop and think about this.
What if you are a young, healthy person with no expensive medical problems.
Health insurance may be more expensive than out-of-pocket costs for, say, a regular checkup.
The person understands the risks involved and decides to take them.
Also, we would have no way to pay for this in our current state. Now, imagine what will happen when the baby boomers start collecting social security and go on medicare.
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