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Offline Tezuni

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do people have free will?
« on: January 15, 2012, 11:42:01 PM »
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I've been thinking about this for a while.

Do people really have free will?
Will to do, yes.. Will to believe....no....just lying to themselves?
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Re: do people have free will?
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 02:59:01 AM »
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I personally think yes. That is, if you are WILLING enough to accomplish it.
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Re: do people have free will?
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 12:11:48 PM »
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Free will is such a wonky topic :X

but I say a little of both. Because if the world ends because of an asteroid, it's not because of a decision you made, it's just fate, and the things you do can affect certain parts of the future.
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Re: do people have free will?
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 12:13:26 PM »
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Yes except everyone is blinded by rules we fear to do it.  :yes:
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Re: do people have free will?
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2012, 12:35:14 PM »
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Everything you do has already been done.

Regardless of what you know, or think, everyone is on a pre-defined path in time.

So technically, no. You don't have free will. What you do in the next ten minutes has already happened ten minutes from now.

There wouldn't be a "future" unless events have already taken place to get there.
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Re: do people have free will?
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 02:29:29 PM »
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if I have the freedom to take off my pants and fap thats good enough
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Re: do people have free will?
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 02:53:19 PM »
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yes....everyone chooses their own path, sadly most people do what other ppl do. never fear to do something that may be seen as not hip or controversial. other peoples opinions about you should be about as irreverent as i am to this forum XD.
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Re: do people have free will?
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 03:15:05 PM »
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the question is more of, can you will what your will is?  or is that just you deep down?
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Re: do people have free will?
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2012, 03:23:37 PM »
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Quote from: Tezuni on January 16, 2012, 03:15:05 PM
the question is more of, can you will what your will is?  or is that just you deep down?
Yo u mean,

Is everyone on a pre-determined path and has no free will, or is everyone doing this according to choices according to the uncertainties of life
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Re: do people have free will?
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2012, 04:36:17 PM »
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well take religion for example

say someone wants to believe in a religion really badly, but they just don't.  they can't really will themselves to truly believe it, can they??
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Re: do people have free will?
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Re: do people have free will?
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2012, 04:56:40 PM »
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This topic is bullshit, you know why?

Becasue neither side can prove the other wrong. The awnser is 100% what you think.

As for what I think: You do have free will, but it is unnervingly easy to decieve others into getting them to think what you want them to think. Personaly, I feel terrile for those people who just choose to be lazy dumbasses becasue they feel that they have no other choice. Such is the complexity of the not-fully-understood human mind.
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Re: do people have free will?
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2012, 05:02:01 PM »
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Quote from: Tezuni on January 16, 2012, 04:36:17 PM
well take religion for example

say someone wants to believe in a religion really badly, but they just don't.  they can't really will themselves to truly believe it, can they??


Err, because want =/= can. Say someone WANTS to believe in [religion here] (be saved, not go to hell, etc.) but they just don't believe it.

Better evidence is Hitler. Having most of a nation want to murder a group of people doesn't just happen. "When a lie is repeated enough times, it becomes fact."
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