He was saying that most of our admins were merely based on popularity and it did not matter if they were bad ones or not. Basically saying "Oh, we just have admins who only spammed on the forums and "sucked dicks" making it seem as though we have poor administration.That's your own interpretation drawn from apples statements on the application process.
I hate to choose sides, so I'm just going to add this.
Just because player has been here a long time doesn't mean they deserve to be a Regular. They have to respect the players, including admins, and handle situations maturely.
Apple isn't really helping himself much by disrespecting the admin, but there could have been another way other than a demotion.
Yes I dont like choosing sides... I don't think he should've been demoted him for his own thoughts, it sort of reminds me of like what happened at UC Davis...Hotgreen I honestly don't think he should have been demoted just for that... If you have more proof, maybe that would be enough... But for now I don't think it's enough :/
Please dont hate me....
Why were all posts defending apple removed?It wasn't all posts defending apple ...
ok fine, hotgreensoldier, what i said was indeed wrong, and wrong and against the server,if you guys don't want me to say anything against the server then so be it, i thought there was free of speech on the community, apparently not, so sure ill keep my mouth shut, since u guys don't want me to say so, u warned me hotgreen in steam chat, but u never warned me about the demotion, so it was quit surpising. what u did was right, i hold no grudges against u nor dom, no one told me there were censorship around, no one told me it against the rules. i don't rdm, i don't break the rules, i help people in fretta, i don't judge people on what they do. like what i said, being a guest means I'm not welcome, so i left, i ain't coming back till something happen to my friends in this community or the problem is solved.
I can agree with the "be quiet" part of this, he always had something against me and I don't know why. If your not on his good side hes gona give you hell no matter what.
Some Background:
I remember back in the summer when Hotgreen was still a regular. Then get got VIP.
After that promotion, whenever he joined a server he'd always ask: "What's the problem." then tell everyone to "shut up" or "be quiet" or "not another word". But he never took any action.
After reading about 5 different sentences in this thread, my IQ has dropped 10%.
being a guest means I'm not welcome, so i left, i ain't coming back till something happen to my friends in this community or the problem is solved.
I can agree with the "be quiet" part of this, he always had something against me and I don't know why. If your not on his good side hes gona give you hell no matter what.
Look at my app, for the guest thing, no it only applys to me, it just what I think, if u really going to let me have a chance to appeal?! There's nothing to appeal I'm guest already, u here what don said I have to make another app, he also said it's easy, ya, after this post I ain't getting nothing, I totally can express what I said, yeah only everything positive, i feel like the community turned against me when u demoted me
This isn't censorship. Nobody banned you from the servers becuase you were calling out hotgreen.justsayin, why does alot of the community seem to dislike him then?
You were demoted because you were dissing the community as a whole. Admins don't "just get promoted", it's based off of what the community thinks as a whole. By talking shit to hotgreen, you were indirectly saying the same thing about the majority of VIP's and Admins on here (along with the owner himself).
And with Hotgreen (In my opinion) I don't think he should've demoted you instead he should have just warned you or kick you and made a report.
Honestly I think this is just Hotgreen trying to become a "super admin"; an admin who takes names, and kicks everything to the curb *A new age judge dredd*. The chain of events that caused before this conversation between myself and apples happened several rounds before.Sorry for Double
During a round when the server was playing the TTT map called "The Thing" I was unjustly slayed as a traitor, because I guess pushing the afkers into the fire at spawn is far from a traitorous act, instead it is an act akin to crashing the server or RDMing -and thus slayable-. Being slightly mad for that slight I started kidding around about Hotgreen; but instead of raging and creating a report I decided to let things slide and berate the noobly admin(noobly is an earned title. In this instance, he didn't know that Regulars cannot start votekicks/bans, and disagreed with me when I said otherwise.)
Of course berating turned to trash talk; and if that is the sole reason why Apples was demoted... well then Hotgreen should be demoted for admin abuse; an act that is far worse than trash talking.
But he didn't and instead of just letting it slide he demoted someone without even creating a thread first. No I think HotGreen should be demoted until such time that he gets all his cowboy adminship out of the way.
Sorry for Double
But sledog....No, you talk total bs about people I have witnessed it and been one of the victims, like in ZS just because I was last human and won by myself for about 7 rounds you were mad and talking trash about me and saying I'm nooby for holding up the round and saying you were going to report me
Not only do I think you are wrong, but that is a decision that is made by the administration of the community.
Any punishment is.
Its a good thing I'm not an admin, sledog. You'd've been gone a long time ago.
great...i have to make a new app, after this post, i might not get a approve since the admins might just dissagree and blow it off, yeah, its easy last time, but after i have a record, it aint easy. EASY FOR U TO SAY DON
But sledog....No, you talk total bs about people I have witnessed it and been one of the victims, like in ZS just because I was last human and won by myself for about 7 rounds you were mad and talking trash about me and saying I'm nooby for holding up the round and saying you were going to report me
You'd've been gone a long time ago.
Hmm yes, that round in ZS HellsGarage or something akin to that. I remember that you had the map's super weapon equipped, and for the most part yes, you were just delaying the game.
You need to calm your ass down before you retry, because with that attitude, good luck
I was surviving....
Most of you guys stayed outside while the zombies gt the jeep and ran people
Over, I was smart and ran and hid which is called surviving
sigh*, your right, maybe if i left was a good idea,i just need to cool down, wait till things get normal again(if it even does), but hotgreen is too fast to judge a book by its cover, that one game, i was playing TTT as a tator. ruined my whole thanksgiving, i couldnt eat, i was too busy staring at the post waiting for something good to happen, just to find out aint getting out of the mess till i make that app, or till someone gives me back my regular again, thats really....too good to be true, haha what are the chances of me getting regular from either of these choices, non, but im willing to hope, and i willing to wait.
acting like a idiot.
As for Sledog, he was just acting like a general asshole the whole entire time. Just being straightforward with it. He kept taunting saying "OH! I'm going to be banned for prop pushing HUHHH?" As he was putting a prop on my head. I didn't want to kick him because I was thinking he would cool down and not continue acting like a idiot. I guess I was wrong.
Apple, you are a good guy, you just tend to go overboard a bit.
If you apply for regular again and explain all that happened I am sure that you would get it back as long as you watch these things.
Also, you don't have to make a re-app. If you make an appeal and say something like "I'm sorry that I said that" as you have ALREADY said, I would be glad to re-promote you.
There was not much of a need for a report. A appeal would have been better.
i really wish it was that easy, i really do, i really do.....
i really wish it was that easy, i really do, i really do.....
Hmm sorry for dragging you down with this Apples
Just try.
Then why do it?
acting like a idiot.
(prepare for my last words, kinda long for and its for hotgreen)Spoiler (click to show/hide)