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Title: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: null on October 04, 2011, 02:20:51 PM
Here we go again, Get back on the server, have a good t round, then have another one taken by BS.
Still running at about 50/50.

1. Player's SteamID
I cant give you the steam id's because whatever the vip/admins were doing caused the Dem to be screwed up. The console is littered with "Update delta not found."

2. Players Nickname

Possibly Sabb or iRub'RnD or both. I'm not sure who exactly was doing what. However I am sure that a vip doesn't have access to some of the things that were happening. So iRub for sure, sabb maybe.
 
3. Your in-game name
null

4. Server name
Trouble in Terrorist Town

5. Description of the event(s)
At first, cars were being spawned.
On minecraft my T round starts. Then I noticed someone was nocliping. I could not see the name. Apparently noclip makes it impossible to see a persons name in ttt.
A little later in the round, Either sabb or iRub identifies a traitor using noclip + dna or something. He admitted on the mic "I flew in there and saw him".
Being the last T, I pretended to have dna and said "Hes in the nether". I went in there expecting people to follow. It took a little while but people eventually did follow. I killed the first that came through. I was doing pretty well killing everyone that came through, but someone nocliping also came through. I could not see his name or kill him.
I wasted a lot of time and bullets firing at him while other people came through and finally killed me.


6. Reason for ban(or whatever sort of discipline is used in this sort of situation)

Admin/vip(whatever) abuse.

7. Screenshots or demo(s) | Optional console log(s)

I do hope other people come forward and verify all this. Because whatever these guys did, caused the dem to be screwed up.
Ill upload it anyway.
http://dimension128.com/dem/iRub_Admin_Abuse.zip (http://dimension128.com/dem/iRub_Admin_Abuse.zip)
FF to 23000 for the correct round. However you won't see or hear much as the demo is glitched. You can however see the chat.

I'm not sure what level of admin iRub is. If he is some sort of owner... I suppose not much is going to happen here. Or worse, maybe you'll ban me for following the rules. But hey, it was made very clear this is what I am to do.

Hope he gets what he deserves. I believe that my ban request is presentable.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: blαh2355 on October 04, 2011, 02:30:13 PM
LOL

Sabb is only VIP and can't do that.

Ruben always makes it fun for people and just lols around and he doesn't use his super admin powers to his own advantages.

The demo glitches because... idk, it happened to me for a long time.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: aerobro on October 04, 2011, 02:34:58 PM
no no and NO. I'm here and he isn't abusing hes just messing around and is not using the power for his own benefit  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Tiger Guy on October 04, 2011, 02:37:09 PM
I was there for some of it. It was just Ruben being Ruben. Really funny actually.  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Supertoaster on October 04, 2011, 02:37:36 PM
no no and NO. I'm here and he isn't abusing hes just messing around and is not using the power for his own benefit  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
  :thumbsdown: ruben was just having fun, he wasnt causing anyone grief or using it to his own advantage, so i'ts not abuse

Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Sabb on October 04, 2011, 02:39:26 PM
Sorry, I pressed the wrong buttons.

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Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Doctor Who on October 04, 2011, 03:19:53 PM
Null you should've played on the rnd servers 2 years ago and you would know why we pretend, troll or have fun.
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Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: null on October 04, 2011, 03:35:46 PM
OMFG, I should have known people would start crawling out of the woodwork to lie.
No sabb, someone either you or irub came into the nether, HOVERED OVER the lava, and helped to kill me. And I could not hurt that person.
I'm the only one who bothered to post this, because im the only person who lost a t round to it. And other people DID complain. People were saying in chat "Your ruining the game". And people were saying on the mic that they thought the situation was bullshit, etc.

...he wasnt causing anyone grief or using it to his own advantage, so i'ts not abuse
....he doesn't use his super admin powers to his own advantages...
LIES.

His own advantage eh? Well I'd say noclip to kill would be an advantage. Also, watch this one.
http://dimension128.com/dem/irub_InfAmmo_Tick35000.zip (http://dimension128.com/dem/irub_InfAmmo_Tick35000.zip) <-- uses inf ammo to win the round. People DO complain. He just said, "I had to because I ran out of ammo bitch".

After informing sabb and iRub about the report (per the rules, unlike what my situation was), its interesting how many VIP's and shit came into the server. Started Loling about the thread. This is how it is? The rules apply only in certain situations to people selectively? Hell on my ban I had a vip arguing against me who wasn't even involved. Making up stories, and doing everything he could to derail the appeal. Now everyone is going to come to iRubs defense and just make shit up.

I'm kidding, I was calling him out with no clip, I didn't >no clip to traitor room and call him out or something
Wish you would have cleared that up in game when people were saying WTF, about the situation.
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... I also didn't have no clip when in the nether with you, otherwise I would have most likely fell into the lava.
Someone was in noclip.
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No one was given intentional advantages in game or shit, he just had his fun without really effecting the game. Out of the 18 people in the server, you were the only one who complained.
Yes there was an unfair advantage. Yes it did affect the game. Yes people did complain, both on mic and in chat.

Null you should've played on the rnd servers 2 years ago and you would know why we pretend, troll or have fun.
The game itself is fun. I want to play the game. The rules make the game.

Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: blαh2355 on October 04, 2011, 03:41:04 PM
Why don't you talk to him personally on steam chat...

oh nvm, he's on the forums now.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: null on October 04, 2011, 03:43:23 PM
Why don't you talk to him personally on steam chat...

oh nvm, he's on the forums now.
I actually sent a friend invitation at the start of all this.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Don on October 04, 2011, 03:44:46 PM
After informing sabb and iRub about the report (per the rules, unlike what my situation was), its interesting how many VIP's and shit came into the server. Started Loling about the thread. This is how it is? The rules apply only in certain situations to people selectively?

Even though I'm not named, I'd just like to clarify my point in this.

Sabb and Ruben didn't inform anybody about the report. In case you hadn't noticed, most (if not all) VIPs read the forums regularly and therefore probably saw the report by themselves. I joined just because I wanted to play some TTT after playing Starcraft 2 for hours. I also didn't see anybody loling about the thread in-game.
I told you in-game to stop complaining because it was simply annoying ... It happened, you saw it, you reported it- what's the point in continuing to QQ about somethig like this?

I'm not gonna further comment on anything that happened here, I wasn't there.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Deacon on October 04, 2011, 03:50:39 PM
why, on my first day of the job, does something interesting happen

why god why
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Rbn on October 04, 2011, 03:52:26 PM
First of all, what is Sabb doing in the report? lol

LoL dude i said i had to drop because i ran out of ammo, are you idiot? i took the weapon again and show that was out of ammo lol.

Yes, someone was in no clip was glitched i couldn't see his name, just fixed some min later...

w/e dude have fun ^_^

Anyway i aprove this: Ruben banned by Ruben. Happy comming back :D.  :thumbsup:

why, on my first day of the job, does something interesting happen

why god why

LoL'd something interesting happened after like 5 or 6 month of meh working :3 i remember all this post before :D.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Deacon on October 04, 2011, 03:54:06 PM
First of all, what is Sabb doing in the report? lol

LoL dude i said i had to drop because i ran out of ammo, are you idiot? i took the weapon again and show that was out of ammo lol.

Yes, someone was in no clip was glitched i couldn't see his name, just fixed some min later...

w/e dude have fun ^_^

Anyway i aprove this: Ruben banned by Ruben. Happy comming back :D.  :thumbsup:

LoL'd something interesting happened after like 5 or 6 month of meh working :3 i remember all this post before :D.

well regardless, good to see you back from the dead
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: [Valor]iPounce on October 04, 2011, 03:59:12 PM
Hai and what is this

Why fun no aloud?
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: null on October 04, 2011, 04:14:02 PM
First of all, what is Sabb doing in the report? lol
He was there, and was (by his own admission) one of the people in noclip. So hes in the report.

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LoL dude i said i had to drop because i ran out of ammo, are you idiot? i took the weapon again and show that was out of ammo lol.
Went back and watched it again, and yes, after all the complaining you did say "I had to drop because I had no more ammo bish". But that statement was very out of place. You didn't drop the weapon until after you had won the round. And idk how we were able to see that you were in fact out of ammo, I see no evidence of that in the demo. You picked the gun back up. But there is no audible clicking (the sound from an empty gun).
However you fired at least, (maybe even more from before this event)3 full clips. and reloaded a 4th time. That map does not have that much ammo. Everyone there knew that and that is why they were complaining.

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Yes, someone was in no clip was glitched i couldn't see his name, just fixed some min later...
How did 'someone' get into noclip? Better question... how did an unknown person become noclipped without you knowing it? If this was not authorized, why didn't you deal with it? (and by that i mean punish a supposed 'hacker'). Knowing that noclip was used to cheat (the unfair advantage people keep claiming didn't exist)... why did you not address that?

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Anyway i aprove this: Ruben banned by Ruben. Happy comming back :D.  :thumbsup:
So that's it eh? Rules apply selectively.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Sabb on October 04, 2011, 04:15:37 PM
well regardless, good to see you back from the dead
This.
But anyways, that person in no clip was me I already explained, but when I was in the nether killing you, I wasn't in no clip, but you didn't kill me. Could have been a glitch, I don't know. I also did say in game what I said here, but I suppose you didn't hear me. For the part of me actually having no clip, I think it was a glitch when I entered a vehicle that was in a wall. When I exited it, I had no clip. I didn't use it to my advantage, and it wasn't purposely given to me.
Also, for people defending Ruben, we all love Ruben, he's a great admin, he's contributed a lot to the servers, and he's just hilarious, and very fair. So I don't see why people shouldn't be defending him.

EDIT:
null, I was the ONLY one in no clip. There wasn't more than one, and again, I didn't have it when in nether, Ruben had it fixed then.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Foofoojack on October 04, 2011, 04:18:23 PM
Okaaaaay im going to be the only unbiased person here, although my vote is still a  :thumbsdown:.

Ruben's actions DID interrupt null's gameplay, and that's the main reason he created the report.

Although Ruben's actions were all for fun and games, he still did impede someone/multiple peoples right to play properly.

Ruben's activities DID give him an advantage whether you'd like to say it or not, it was very unfair.


Think of it like school.

Students have the RIGHT to learn. (People have the right to play.)

Students actions are LIMITED and RESTRICTED so that right can be stable.

Ruben was responsible for letting null continue with his game in a proper and normal way; although he did not in this situation.


I'm sure everything was meant to be fun and harmless, and it definitely did not to null.


Don - null complained ONLY because he could not play without having the disadvantage of fair play.

Sabb- null was the only one to complain because HE  was the only one receiving the disadvantage, 1 person complaining about a just reason is more than enough.

To the rest - You all say that Ruben is just having fun, oh he's just being himself, oh just deal with it. This is not acceptable from you guys, if the same events happened to you I can assure you would be feeling similar.



To null: You had every good reason to make this report, whether people say it's just or not.

I'd just not like to see it happening again.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Sabb on October 04, 2011, 04:22:16 PM
Okaaaaay im going to be the only unbiased person here, although my vote is still a  :thumbsdown:.

Ruben's actions DID interrupt null's gameplay, and that's the main reason he created the report.

Although Ruben's actions were all for fun and games, he still did impede someone/multiple peoples right to play properly.

Ruben's activities DID give him an advantage whether you'd like to say it or not, it was very unfair.


Think of it like school.

Students have the RIGHT to learn. (People have the right to play.)

Students actions are LIMITED and RESTRICTED so that right can be stable.

Ruben was responsible for letting null continue with his game in a proper and normal way; although he did not in this situation.


I'm sure everything was meant to be fun and harmless, and it definitely did not to null.


Don - null complained ONLY because he could not play without having the disadvantage of fair play.

Sabb- null was the only one to complain because HE  was the only one receiving the disadvantage, 1 person complaining about a just reason is more than enough.

To the rest - You all say that Ruben is just having fun, oh he's just being himself, oh just deal with it. This is not acceptable from you guys, if the same events happened to you I can assure you would be feeling similar.



To null: You had every good reason to make this report, whether people say it's just or not.

I'd just not like to see it happening again.
You should read every side of the story before posting if you're going to judge everything.
It DIDN'T affect the gameplay. AGAIN, I was the ONLY one with no clip and I didn't use it in any way to my advantage. I was no clipping while I called out a guy, and even he didn't complain. Only null, because when null loses a T round, everyone needs to hear it. That's basically every game I've had with null.

EDIT:
I'd also like to point out that day when you got extremely pissed at me for throwing a snowball at you as spectator, saying that it froze you and got you killed. You aren't a rational thinker when you're pissed off, which is clearly shown in that situation and this report. When ever you lose at the game, you make sure there's something else to blame it on other than your performance. That's basically everything this report is about.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: aerobro on October 04, 2011, 04:55:13 PM
To the rest - You all say that Ruben is just having fun, oh he's just being himself, oh just deal with it. This is not acceptable from you guys, if the same events happened to you I can assure you would be feeling similar.
It actually made the game fun and I laughed the whole time  ^-^
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Foofoojack on October 04, 2011, 05:05:36 PM
It actually made the game fun and I laughed the whole time  ^-^
Do you laugh at the mentally ill too because they're funny?
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on October 04, 2011, 05:12:47 PM
Do you laugh at the mentally ill too because they're funny?

When admins fool around like that we DO have fun...

I was once in Deathrun and I was only one left. I was making it through all the traps and an admin slapped me to death, I didn't get mad, it was actually quite funny.

You should read every side of the story before posting if you're going to judge everything.
It DIDN'T affect the gameplay. AGAIN, I was the ONLY one with no clip and I didn't use it in any way to my advantage. I was no clipping while I called out a guy, and even he didn't complain. Only null, because when null loses a T round, everyone needs to hear it. That's basically every game I've had with null.

EDIT:
I'd also like to point out that day when you got extremely pissed at me for throwing a snowball at you as spectator, saying that it froze you and got you killed. You aren't a rational thinker when you're pissed off, which is clearly shown in that situation and this report. When ever you lose at the game, you make sure there's something else to blame it on other than your performance. That's basically everything this report is about.

Also, this.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Devie on October 04, 2011, 05:16:56 PM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39112405/bumpercar.png)

I remember a time where everyone enjoyed a good bit of laugh over admins doing silly and stupid things for the lulz.
Not one report was created. This was back then coolz and ruben (at times minic also joined) alongside me teeny and moo..
we would get on ttt and fuck around and just have fun.

Everybody would get a good laugh about it.

This doesn't happen all the time, all day erryday. It's just for fun. Every once in awhile.

Also:
Admins and the owner in wirebuild (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j29RRwgXDeM#ws)

Moo thought it was a good idea to battle out coolz with the props.

Not exactly sure how the battle came about but I remember coolz saying "I can delete them much faster than you can spawn them" and moo took up the challenge - later on teeny joined forces with moo.

I still fucking lol @ this.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Foofoojack on October 04, 2011, 05:22:21 PM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39112405/bumpercar.png)

I remember a time where everyone enjoyed a good bit of laugh over admins doing silly and stupid things for the lulz.
Not one report was created. This was back then coolz and ruben (at times minic also joined) alongside me teeny and moo..
we would get on ttt and fuck around and just have fun.

Everybody would get a good laugh about it.

This doesn't happen all the time, all day erryday. It's just for fun. Every once in awhile.

Also:
Admins and the owner in wirebuild (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j29RRwgXDeM#ws)

Moo thought it was a good idea to battle out coolz with the props.

Not exactly sure how the battle came about but I remember coolz saying "I can delete them much faster than you can spawn them" and moo took up the challenge - later on teeny joined forces with moo.

I still fucking lol @ this.

(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5522/tttkrustykrab0008.jpg)
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: blαh2355 on October 04, 2011, 05:24:37 PM
Need to make a movie of admins vs. admins :trollface:
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: null on October 04, 2011, 05:26:57 PM
But anyways, that person in no clip was me ... when I was in the nether killing you, I wasn't in no clip, but you didn't kill me. Could have been a glitch... I didn't use it to my advantage, and it wasn't purposely given to me.
null, I was the ONLY one in no clip. There wasn't more than one, and again, I didn't have it when in nether, Ruben had it fixed then.
Well I fired almost every bullet I had at you, you moved through me, you hovered over the lava. I'm not sure how to explain that other than noclip.

First of all, what is Sabb doing in the report? lol
But anyways, that person in no clip was me

Was just talking to iRub'RnD in steamchat. His story says he was still trying to fix the problem even after the nether. Well by inference.

iRub'RnD: thats why all ppl got stuck for a moment
null: that was a glitch?
iRub'RnD: yes
null: People getting stuck is a glitch yes, but someone having noclip?
null: Then why didnt you at least yell at him for using it to cheat?
iRub'RnD: the stuck part was me trying to fix the guy flying omg
...
iRub'RnD: should be fixed after all the ppl got stuck
iRub'RnD: 30 seconds later
iRub'RnD: or so
iRub'RnD: and
iRub'RnD: was not really no clip
iRub'RnD: he lost his entity
iRub'RnD: as i said before

Well you all came into the nether right away after the big freeze. I'm sure 30 seconds hadn't passed before was killed.
Regardless, I couldn't hurt you, you could hurt me, you were able to move as if you were in noclip.

In fact! Watching the demo, you can tell when the problem was finally fixed. When the next round started. Because that's when the 'glitch' went away, and sound and everything comes back in the demo.

Why are you guys doing this?


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It DIDN'T affect the gameplay. AGAIN, I was the ONLY one with no clip and I didn't use it in any way to my advantage. I was no clipping while I called out a guy, and even he didn't complain. Only null, because when null loses a T round, everyone needs to hear it. That's basically every game I've had with null.
Making more shit up. We have gotten along fine before Sabb. I lose T rounds all the time legitimately. And the worst complaint anyone will hear from me is "goddamnit".

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*DEAD* SANIC HEGEHOG: admin abuse like a boss
SANIC HEGEHOG: regardless, it's ruining the game for others.
It's too bad you cant hear what was being said on the mic in the demo. There were more than two people complaining.

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I'd also like to point out that day when you got extremely pissed at me for throwing a snowball at you as spectator, saying that it froze you and got you killed. You aren't a rational thinker when you're pissed off, which is clearly shown in that situation and this report. When ever you lose at the game, you make sure there's something else to blame it on other than your performance. That's basically everything this report is about.
No what I and other people were getting upset about was the fact that you simply repeated "snowballs don't do anything" without taking heed to anything that we were telling you. The snowballs being repeatedly thrown at you make you get stuck for a short time. This has resulted in people being killed. I could not move due to repeated snowballs once, and was shot. The round you are talking about, a guy was prop-killed by a door because YOU were throwing snowballs, and he glitched and could not move. Idk how it works, but the snowballs do make you get stuck.
Please quit exaggerating about me now. "Extremely pissed" I argued with you in chat. I tried to present facts. You repeated the same thing over and over.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Sabb on October 04, 2011, 05:32:02 PM
I only read half the post because I think I get the point, but I can promise you while in the nether, I wasn't at all no clipped, I can't say one way or another about you being able to damage me or not, what ever, but I didn't float over lava either, I jumped over it :/. One way or another, say that I was invincible, and couldn't die, but I could hurt you, A) I didn't know, B) it was not intended by any one in any way, hence it being a GLITCH. But one way or another, it lasted for not even 1 minute in a round, and was fixed quite quickly by Ruben right when he noticed it. So I really do not see a problem here.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: null on October 04, 2011, 05:33:45 PM
When admins fool around like that we DO have fun...
Oh boy here we go. More people who weren't involved posting things irrelevant to the discussion in an attempt to derail it. Hotgreen I don't want to hear it from you this time.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Shawn on October 04, 2011, 05:34:41 PM
Lol i was there (Map right before MC becuase i left before that map becuase i hate it) But Ruben wasn't doing anything that affected the game play by spawning cars he was minding is own business like he always does.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Sabb on October 04, 2011, 05:35:32 PM
Oh boy here we go. More people who weren't involved posting things irrelevant to the discussion in an attempt to derail it. Hotgreen I don't want to hear it from you this time.
...
He's giving his opinion on the situation whether he was directly involved or not. Other peoples' opinions are always appreciated, he in no one intended to derail your thread.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Devie on October 04, 2011, 05:39:01 PM
Come on, just lighten up.
They were just having fun.

Nothing was lost and nothing was affected.
He doesn't do this all the time like I said,

We admins just like to have fun every once in awhile.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on October 04, 2011, 05:42:56 PM
Oh boy here we go. More people who weren't involved posting things irrelevant to the discussion in an attempt to derail it. Hotgreen I don't want to hear it from you this time.

I love how you're STILL saying we aren't involved when we're SUPPOSE to look at these and help admins make decisions.

You think that "HEY, IF I MAKE THIS REPORT IT'S GOING TO GET APPROVED, OKAY." and when someone who actually REVIEWED it and gave their OPINION on it comes in, you say "Why are you getting involved? Gtfo." when it's our DUTY.

If someone else says something we have the right to clarify it with what we know. You're just attempting to get our opinions shut out.

P.S.: Snowballs do NOT glitch you, I've had LOTS of times when I was hit by spectator snowballs and they don't do anything close to that. Apparently, you're the only one who's ever been glitched by it because we've never had a complaint of that.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: null on October 04, 2011, 05:53:37 PM
I only read half the post because I think I get the point, but I can promise you while in the nether, I wasn't at all no clipped, I can't say one way or another about you being able to damage me or not, what ever, but I didn't float over lava either, I jumped over it :/. One way or another, say that I was invincible, and couldn't die, but I could hurt you, A) I didn't know, B) it was not intended by any one in any way, hence it being a GLITCH. But one way or another, it lasted for not even 1 minute in a round, and was fixed quite quickly by Ruben right when he noticed it. So I really do not see a problem here.
Well........, how about maybe recognizing there may have been a problem, and instead of ignoring everything I say in-game, and arguing any way you possibly can in this thread.... Just saying, Yea gee null, that sucks, I can understand why your mad. We're sorry about that. Our bad. Your right, it wasn't fair.

I mean... as far as I knew... someone was in noclip. Then someone in noclip apparently used it to call out my T buddy. Then he gets killed. I'm alone. 3 people come into the nether, I can kill two. The other flys through me, over the lava , hovers there, shoots me, and then more people come in and help finish me off all the while im wasting bullets at a phantom of some sort.
That's what I saw. Do you think maybe it would have been a good idea to clarify things at the end of the round? For example explaining that you did not cheat to call out a T (It was apparently just a joke in bad taste). Or explain that (From your point of view) you weren't in noclip when you were shooting me? Because i did make it veary clear that that is what I was seeing. I shouted "Wtf I cant kill this noclip guy" a few times on the mic. Do you think maybe it would have been a good idea not to just ignore everything I (and other people) were saying?

I love how you're STILL saying we aren't involved when we're SUPPOSE to look at these and help admins make decisions.
Then give your opinion on the subject, not your opinion on the justification for an event that is not the complaint.

P.S.: Snowballs do NOT glitch you, I've had LOTS of times when I was hit by spectator snowballs and they don't do anything close to that. Apparently, you're the only one who's ever been glitched by it because we've never had a complaint of that.
Yea and the other people with the same argument who also argued with Sabb, just don't exist. Yes Hotgreen, I'm fucking lying. I'm imagining all the times i hear people shouting "Quit with the fucking snowballs, they keep stopping me" on the mic. However, regardless, this isn't the subject of this thread.

Come on, just lighten up.
They were just having fun.

Nothing was lost and nothing was affected.
He doesn't do this all the time like I said,

We admins just like to have fun every once in awhile.

I don't care. Hell I like the idea of admins fucking around every once in a while. Spawn a bunch of cars on peaches castle? Hell yea, sounds fun. You are all misunderstanding this.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Sabb on October 04, 2011, 06:02:38 PM
Well........, how about maybe recognizing there may have been a problem, and instead of ignoring everything I say in-game, and arguing any way you possibly can in this thread.... Just saying, Yea gee null, that sucks, I can understand why your mad. We're sorry about that. Our bad. Your right, it wasn't fair.
Read here and first sentence of next paragraph and stopped basically... I'm not here to contradict everything you say, I'm here to give facts on the situation and contribute to the report, whether it be for or against it.
And no, I can't say "yea gee null, that sucks, etc" because you're handling the situation horribly wrong. You're making a pretty damn big deal over something very trivial that was really not a cause of anyone's poor behavior or anything. I also have given you plenty of chances, and have been very understanding with you previously, EVEN THOUGH I have had problems with your behavior, and you know what I'm referring to. Yes, there was a misunderstanding with someone impersonating you and blah blah, but I'm not referring to that, mostly referring to your short temper. Now, seeing as previously I wasn't certain if you were cooperative, mingey, etc, and talked shit through with you, I think it's perfectly just for me now to not be so patient with you, seeing how you're handling these situations. I'm not saying you should not have reported or anything, but you're also not admitting to anything in your own wrong doing, and you're only constantly escalating the situation, arguing over every minor little thing.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: null on October 04, 2011, 06:19:16 PM
Read here and first sentence of next paragraph and stopped basically... I'm not here to contradict everything you say, I'm here to give facts on the situation and contribute to the report, whether it be for or against it.
And no, I can't say "yea gee null, that sucks, etc" because you're handling the situation horribly wrong. You're making a pretty damn big deal over something very trivial that was really not a cause of anyone's poor behavior or anything. I also have given you plenty of chances, and have been very understanding with you previously, EVEN THOUGH I have had problems with your behavior, and you know what I'm referring to. Yes, there was a misunderstanding with someone impersonating you and blah blah, but I'm not referring to that, mostly referring to your short temper. Now, seeing as previously I wasn't certain if you were cooperative, mingey, etc, and talked shit through with you, I think it's perfectly just for me now to not be so patient with you, seeing how you're handling these situations. I'm not saying you should not have reported or anything, but you're also not admitting to anything in your own wrong doing, and you're only constantly escalating the situation, arguing over every minor little thing.
I'm trying to translate what your saying here, but it is difficult. I'm handling something incorrectly, by following the correct procedure? Your not saying I shouldn't have reported this, but your saying I'm making a big deal about it... Is there some other way I could have reported it that would have made a smaller deal out of it?

"I have had problems with your behavior... and you know what I'm referring to" - PLEASE do elaborate I do not know what you are referring to.
Please tell me what I'm not 'admitting' to.
"I think it's perfectly just for me now to not be so patient with you" Is it? Where is that written?
I'm escalating the situation. Please explain how I'm doing this. I've filed a report. I'm responding to the 'opinions' that vip's are entitled to. Would you rather me just stop posting? Let everyone else have their say and not respond? What exactly are you saying here?

Also. This is the second time in this thread you have admitted to not actually reading what i have typed. If you would read... maybe you would realize that this is the exact phenomenon/behavior that 'escalated' the situation in the first place in-game.

edit: to place this text below the post it references.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on October 04, 2011, 06:20:34 PM
You're responding to our opinions saying all of us are wrong and that we are just trying to protect another member of the community.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: null on October 04, 2011, 06:32:19 PM
You're responding to our opinions saying all of us are wrong and that we are just trying to protect another member of the community.
Thank you. That was relevant. And yes I did say something to that affect. However 'all' is wrong. And that is something I said before you came to the thread. When I said it, it did fit the situation. Instead of commenting on what i had said, everyone was basically just saying "But teh adminz playing is fun! And they would never use it to cheat.".
Both logical fallacies. The enjoyment or not of a specific action has nothing to do with weather or not rules were broken. And claiming that a human being would never abuse power is the same as people who tell the lie "I never lie".
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Deacon on October 04, 2011, 06:36:59 PM
Ok, let me clear some things up:

Ruben came in, did what he always does, then accidently'd some players.

Null not amused.

Null ragereports

Null still not understanding the whole "super-admin" thing
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Foofoojack on October 04, 2011, 06:37:57 PM
Ok, let me clear some things up:

Ruben came in, did what he always does, then accidently'd some players.

Null not amused.

Null ragereports

Null still not understanding the whole "super-admin" thing

So if some cops did a drive-by on your house and then said "oh haha it's alright we do it all the time" would you be okay with that?
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: aerobro on October 04, 2011, 06:38:31 PM
Ok, let me clear some things up:

Ruben came in, did what he always does, then accidently'd some players.

Null not amused.

Null ragereports

Null still not understanding the whole "super-admin" thing
sums it up I think ruben deserves more respect than this but maybe coolz will find this and say something.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: aerobro on October 04, 2011, 06:44:01 PM
So if some cops did a drive-by on your house and then said "oh haha it's alright we do it all the time" would you be okay with that?
Internet =/= to real life?
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Foofoojack on October 04, 2011, 06:44:50 PM
Internet =/= to real life?

Please do not double post or be a smart ass.

Im using it an examples, illustrating it.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Deacon on October 04, 2011, 06:46:35 PM
Please do not double post or be a smart ass.

Im using it an examples, illustrating it.

video game terrorists = cops

Sorry, he's right. its not even close.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Foofoojack on October 04, 2011, 06:49:52 PM
video game terrorists = cops

Sorry, he's right. its not even close.
Please do not double post or be a smart ass.

Im using it an example, illustrating it.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Deacon on October 04, 2011, 06:52:29 PM
Your example does not fit the situation. It just doesn't work.

If you have a problem with Ruben, take it up with him, or with Coolz. Otherwise, I don't see why this thread is still even open.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Foofoojack on October 04, 2011, 06:56:11 PM
Your example does not fit the situation. It just doesn't work.

Alright, then allow me to translate to internet.

s0 if a ming3bag trololed and rdm'd every1 on teh server and then said it was for fu/\/ and they d00 it all teh time would you be okai with dat?
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: F.P.S Russian on October 04, 2011, 06:57:19 PM
Sabb is too awesome to do that sort of thing it is beneath him  he is just a ninja that is all  :ninja:

iRub not sure there maybe maybe not but everybody gets 1 chance  ;)


KGB approved :dukenukem:
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Deacon on October 04, 2011, 06:59:46 PM
Alright, then allow me to translate to internet.

s0 if a ming3bag trololed and rdm'd every1 on teh server and then said it was for fu/\/ and they d00 it all teh time would you be okai with dat?

You do realize ruben had just come back, for the first time, from a 5-6 month leave of absence?

Jesus.
I see why moo left.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Foofoojack on October 04, 2011, 07:01:25 PM
You do realize ruben had just come back, for the first time, from a 5-6 month leave of absence?

Jesus.
I see why moo left.

So if I have an absence I can come back and fuck shit up?

I can see why I left.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: null on October 04, 2011, 07:03:21 PM
Ok, let me clear some things up:

Ruben came in, did what he always does, then accidently'd some players.

One of those players (unknowingly?) abuses his glitch.

Null says hes doing it, while hes doing it.

Ruben and Sabb ignore what players say.

Ruben Sabb apparently did not hear null say "WTF your cheating to call out a T???" and "I cant kill this noclip guy" on the mic.

Null ask again about what happened.

Ruben and Sabb still ignore.

Ruben never think it important to clarify in-game that he did not cheat.. it was all just a big joke.

Null ask 3 times what sort of admin Ruben is.

No response.

Null not amused.

Null files a report instead of raging.

Null still not understanding the whole "super-admin" thing why people cant just realize what actually happened, and why they are too prideful to just admit they fucked up, and say sorry. And why so many other people cant understand this and think they need to defend their "Super admin", as if he needs their defense.


Fixed.


Internet =/= to real life?
While your statement is partially true. (the internet exists within real life, and therefore is part of real life if you want to get more technical.) You are smart enough to know that foojack's intent wasn't to imply an artificial equality between a system and a system contained within a system, but to illustrate the fallacy that doing something all the time does not make it right.
His point was the same as what I've already stated. Just because something is fun, it doesn't make it right for (possibly unintended) repercussions of that event to break the rules you enforce.

...If you have a problem with Ruben, take it up with him, or with Coolz. Otherwise, I don't see why this thread is still even open.

Why is this the sort of response after someone posts disagreeing with the majority?

Sabb is too awesome to do that sort of thing it is beneath him  he is just a ninja that is all  :ninja:
I agree that it is possible, Sabb was unaware of what was happaning. Perhaps he couldn't hear my mic? Perhaps he was unable to read chat? Perhaps they were both just to busy trying to correct a problem, they hadnt realized the other problems they created. It's just a shame he is unable to read and understand. As I've already stated, this whole thing could have been solved in-game if they would have just said something. It could be here too, if Sabb would actually read, and understand what the problem actually is.


Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Deathie on October 04, 2011, 07:17:40 PM
If you have a problem with Ruben, take it up with him, or with Coolz. Otherwise, I don't see why this thread is still even open.

I don't want to live on this planet anymore (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35TbGjt-weA#ws)

Seriously.

Almost every response made here by the community just made me feel horrible.
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Rbn on October 04, 2011, 08:06:54 PM
Maybe this gonna sound like sarcasm but WOW, 2 pages? :O!!!

I barely want to know what is on page 1, beleave me i dont want to read that, that video up there explain everything.

Anyyyyyyyyyyyyywaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, *sighs*, i took this hard decision.

Sorry Ruben i have to ban you for 3 months, due you Admin abused your power making someone fly and godmode by an idiot car  :(,
and being overpowered with your supreme "UNLIMITED AMMO" that you poop out from your ass.

I aprove this message, RWJ was here.

Anyway,  :idk:
Title: Re: iRub and Sabb. admin/vip abuse.
Post by: Devie on October 04, 2011, 08:09:44 PM
WELLP, Ruben is banned.



THE ONE TIME HE CAME BACK AFTER 6 MONTHS.
HE GOT BANNED.


D:


FIRST MOO IS GONE
NOW RUBEN IS BANNED

I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THIS WORLD ANYMORE.