.:`=-~rANdOm~`-=:. Game Servers
.:`=-~rANdOm~`-=:. Game Servers (Read Only) => Discussion => Topic started by: yoshi on August 07, 2011, 06:36:09 AM
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I never got the balls to say this but oh well.
This is a thing that bothered me for a while. Do you know how many regular application we get? 1 everyday
Not only that, they get "Approved" only when they got a good format or alot of information and they get approved when we don't even know them well. Most of them a just newbies. How many regulars we got now? Hmm i don't know like 30? You know that's too much right? Is there possibly
a way to make the regulars application more harder to get approved? Atleast make them get known by the community for a while.
This is pretty much what i wanted to say "out loud".
Now discuss. inb4 horrible grammar
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I never got the balls to say this but oh well.
This is a thing that bothered me for a while. Do you know how many regular application we get? 1 everyday
Not only that, they get "Approved" only when they got a good format or alot of information and they get approved when we don't even know them well. Most of them a just newbies. How many regulars we got now? Hmm i don't know like 30? You know that's too much right? Is there possibly
a way to make the regulars application more harder to get approved? Atleast make them get known by the community for a while.
This is pretty much what i wanted to say "out loud".
Now discuss. inb4 horrible grammar
>30 regulars right now
>we have over 350
Plus, just because someone's a newbie on the forums doesn't mean they aren't well known by the community in-game. Just look at our super-admins, who have less than 100 posts. Coolzeldad has stated himself that forum ranks have nothing to do with in-game ranks and that's final.
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We are a huge group with many players.
It would only make sense to have players that play often get regular.
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I think we should make getting regular a little harder. It seems too loose. Maybe, only other regs and up can post in regular application?
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I think we should make getting regular a little harder. It seems too loose. Maybe, only other regs and up can post in regular application?
That would be nice.
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You seem to forget something here ...
Regulars have next to no power at all - the only thing they can do is vote on kicks/bans and use tools on wire.
Sure, there are people who shouldn't be Regular, but that's what we have the report section for.
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You seem to forget something here ...
Regulars have next to no power at all - the only thing they can do is vote on kicks/bans and use tools on wire.
Sure, there are people who shouldn't be Regular, but that's what we have the report section for.
^this
I say just hand it out to everybody that isn't clearly mentally retarded.
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There is no problem with the Regular Application, and there is no problem with the VIP application. If you think there is a problem, then it might be a flaw in your logic.
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and there is no problem with the VIP application. If you think there is a problem, then it might be a flaw in your logic.
I never said there was a problem with the VIPs application. I honestly think it's fine.
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I never said there was a problem with the VIPs application. I honestly think it's fine.
I was just adding onto what i said.
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Aside from Regulars giving poor judgement and making some situations difficult for VIPs, they DO have rank over guests in the server, and a LOT of them give a very bad impression on the server, which discourages people from playing.
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Aside from Regulars giving poor judgement and making some situations difficult for VIPs, they DO have rank over guests in the server, and a LOT of them give a very bad impression on the server, which discourages people from playing.
This is my problem.
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You guys dont get another thing.
Being reg On build is essential.
There is no point playing build if you are a guest.
And you people keep -1, urr I dun know who this guy is never played with him.
Well play on build more.
Its next to impossible to get approved if your a build player.
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You guys dont get another thing.
Being reg On build is essential.
There is no point playing build if you are a guest.
And you people keep -1, urr I dun know who this guy is never played with him.
Well play on build more.
Its next to impossible to get approved if your a build player.
I haven't seen anyone -1 for not knowing someone lol.
On VIP apps maybe, but not on Reg.
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Trust me, they do it all the time.
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Trust me, they do it all the time.
Well, I can agree with what you're saying, but at the same time it does cause problems in the server. Might not be huge problems, but it's still there.
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What im saying is.
To ge reg on any other server has no impact to gamplay.
That being said making it harder to get reg is fine.
But when looking at Build, it makes things even worse.
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What im saying is.
To ge reg on any other server has no impact to gamplay.
That being said making it harder to get reg is fine.
But when looking at Build, it makes things even worse.
Yes I know what you're saying. I understand your worry.
I honestly though don't think that changing the Reg system is that necessary, I just wanted to point out some issues. I think the best solution if the Reg system were to be changed would be in either making another group that only applies to wire build where they only have the tools in wire build which are restricted to Regs, or something along those lines, but can't vote on votes, and their tag doesn't stand out as much. (as stupid as it sounds, when people see that everyone has an orange tag, and one person or two has a blue tag, they automatically assume that they have some power such as admin or something) That could obviously get kind of confusing though, but would also allow it to be harder to get Reg and therefore having less mingy Regs.
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I say just hand it out to everybody that isn't clearly mentally retarded.
They go in disguise.
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The intention with the regular rank, is to get people involved with the community.
It also acts as a buffer, preventing drive-by minges from coming and crashing the build server and leaving.
It is not some exclusive club.
We require they show at least minimal effort (a properly formatted application), as this will weed out anyone that just wants quick access to build tools. The slightly higher effort tends to encourage them to stay and play with us.
- They are not spokesman for Rnd
It is a sign of that they are a regular player. They have invested sufficient time into the server to get that rank.
As it is I feel it is plenty difficult, most in the community seem to have the desire to make it more exclusive so many are negative towards new people joining.
VIP's on the other hand, are people the administration team trusts in their judgement.
Hence the difficulty of getting VIP.
Right now some of you might be thinking, OOO OOO WHY DON'T WE MAKE A RANK BETWEEN REGULAR AND VIP??
I think most of the administration team would say No, to that.
I myself have several reasons for this.
The main reason is I don't want to create some sort of old boys club, to where the regulars feel like second class citizens in comparison.
The increase to VIP and Admin, is not an increase of status. It is an increase in responsibility.
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- They are not spokesman for Rnd
That's a little bit of an exaggeration... we're simply saying that players who join see disruptive Regular members who give a wrong impression on RND, whether that's a fair judgement or not.
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They go in disguise.
By that logic, let's not promote ANYBODY! Like I've said, somebody COULD act completely cool until they turn admin and then shit fuck everything to hell so bad Coolz would have to do a hard reset.
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By that logic, let's not promote ANYBODY! Like I've said, somebody COULD act completely cool until they turn admin and then shit fuck everything to hell so bad Coolz would have to do a hard reset.
you mean make the servers passworded and only allow people who are already regular play?
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you mean make the servers passworded and only allow people who are already regular play?
No, an admin would be able to permaban pretty much everybody and Coolz would have to restart all server details to revise that.
also holy shit our current avatars are in the same position
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No, an admin would be able to permaban pretty much everybody and Coolz would have to restart all server details to revise that.
also holy shit our current avatars are in the same position
OH GOD LOL
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No, an admin would be able to permaban pretty much everybody and Coolz would have to restart all server details to revise that.
also holy shit our current avatars are in the same position
You've never run a server before, have you.
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You've never run a server before, have you.
i was admin on a friend's server but i'm 75% sure that's what would happen if somebody permaban everybody
i'm assuming by your condescending remark i'm wrong, aren't i?
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I never got the balls to say this but oh well.
This is a thing that bothered me for a while. Do you know how many regular application we get? 1 everyday
Not only that, they get "Approved" only when they got a good format or alot of information and they get approved when we don't even know them well. Most of them a just newbies. How many regulars we got now? Hmm i don't know like 30? You know that's too much right? Is there possibly
a way to make the regulars application more harder to get approved? Atleast make them get known by the community for a while.
This is pretty much what i wanted to say "out loud".
Now discuss. inb4 horrible grammar
Just so you know, not all of the applications get approved so no need to state false information. Another thing, there is no correct format. There are a few essential pieces of information that are required. The rest of the information is for the community to learn more about the applicant. The apps get approved by the positive comments posted, the more the better obviously for the admins to determine if the applicant is really a "regular player" on the servers. The apps also get denied by the lack of comments or having negative comments. And yes like Peetah stated, people do -1 players they have never seen. I don't think another rank is needed nor is there a flaw in the system. It would be most helpful if the community could comment on the apps for feedback.
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i was admin on a friend's server but i'm 75% sure that's what would happen if somebody permaban everybody
i'm assuming by your condescending remark i'm wrong, aren't i?
You said coolz would have to restart "all server details", and I don't see how banning all players would permanently damage ALL the server configurations...
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You said coolz would have to restart "all server details", and I don't see how banning all players would permanently damage ALL the server configurations...
Hide yo ranks, hide yo problems cause dey demotin' everybody out der
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You said coolz would have to restart "all server details", and I don't see how banning all players would permanently damage ALL the server configurations...
how would he unban everybody, then? unless admins can't ban other admins
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how would he unban everybody, then? unless admins can't ban other admins
first of all, any good server plugin doesn't let low ranks ban higher ranks
and i'm fairly sure he could just clear the sourcebans database, which is comparatively simple to restarting "everything"
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first of all, any good server plugin doesn't let low ranks ban higher ranks
and i'm fairly sure he could just clear the sourcebans database, which is comparatively simple to restarting "everything"
well fuck me, then