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Title: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Sabb on June 27, 2011, 01:03:34 PM
Yea, I know, too many suggestion do not want.
But.

I want to suggest that at LEAST VIPs get to reply to admin applications.
Before you all rage and say what ever, please read this last bit.



There is simply no way to make a good decision for promotions without getting input from the people that actually play with them.
I'm not the only one that had missed opportunity to state my opinion about to-be admins. (yea, I know, I could have just said over Steam, but I'm convinced that no one would listen to what I would have to say that way because it would just be played off as me secretly not wanting people promoted at all or something along those lines (bottom like I don't think it would be effective)) And I think there is a lot more perspectives and opinions that should be heard of before making action to promote someone.

So, I think VIP should be allowed to comment on admin applications so that coolz and the admins can see what other people have experiences with people before considering further in promoting people.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Deathie on June 27, 2011, 01:08:04 PM
 :thumbsup: Just so there can be more opinions towards whoever is apply.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Wafflepiezz on June 27, 2011, 01:10:06 PM
Can this also be converted into the VIP application system? Regulars often see eachother and if someone applied for a VIP, they can give their opinions...
But maybe Regulars can only be 10-30%/entire application? Or at least SPECIFIC Regulars can comment?

Or something like Moo said in other posts:
5 Regulars = 1 VIP +1 or something?

Anyways, :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Sabb on June 27, 2011, 01:13:27 PM
Can this also be converted into the VIP application system? Regulars often see eachother and if someone applied for a VIP, they can give their opinions...
But maybe Regulars can only be 10-30%/entire application? Or at least SPECIFIC Regulars can comment?

Or something like Moo said in other posts:
5 Regulars = 1 VIP +1 or something?

Anyways, :thumbsup:
No.

The point of doing this isn't so that VIPs can have a say in admins' promotions, if you didn't notice, there is no given amount of admin +1's to get approved for admin. The point is to allow VIPs to have an opinion on admins' application, to explain different situations with people and what they think of them.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Rocket50 on June 27, 2011, 01:18:18 PM
The community deserves a say in who they believe should be admin. Whether a 10% say, or 30%, it will still have an impact on what if whether the admins will +1, or -1.

so  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Sabb on June 27, 2011, 01:20:47 PM
Ugh.



I don't mean VIPs should get a percentage of say or something in an application, they should and can't affect promotions that way because not even admins' votes do.

The only reason this is being brought up is so that VIPs can explain different occasions with applicants and say if they have had good or bad experiences, why, etc, so that coolz and the administration can know different point of views on the person and not only what they see.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Seb on June 27, 2011, 01:34:08 PM
Yes, definitely. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Dale Feles on June 27, 2011, 02:52:01 PM
I'd like the WHOLE community to be able to vote (even if their votes do not count). A admin is there to represent the entire community and help keep order in the servers, so I think every player should have the ability to have their say.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Sabb on June 27, 2011, 03:11:02 PM
I'd like the WHOLE community to be able to vote (even if their votes do not count). A admin is there to represent the entire community and help keep order in the servers, so I think every player should have the ability to have their say.
I disagree, admin apps would then simply get waaay overly spammed or what not.
Simply VIPs should post.
I would say Reg but reg consists of a lot of idiots.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Seb on June 27, 2011, 03:11:46 PM
I disagree, admin apps would then simply get waaay overly spammed or what not.
Simply VIPs should post.
I would say Reg but reg consists of a lot of idiots.

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Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Sabb on June 27, 2011, 03:12:32 PM
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Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Seb on June 27, 2011, 03:18:22 PM
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In time, my boy. In time.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on June 27, 2011, 03:58:10 PM
I would say Reg but reg consists of a lot of idiots.

Tons of them, don't even know how some of them got regular...I hope you don't think of me as one D:
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Sabb on June 27, 2011, 03:59:37 PM
Tons of them, don't even know how some of them got regular...I hope you don't think of me as one D:
No lol.
Pretty much any Reg that is active on the forums isn't bad.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on June 27, 2011, 04:01:53 PM
No lol.
Pretty much any Reg that is active on the forums isn't bad.

:D Thanks mate, but also,I don't even recognize half of the regulars and they don't give a flying fuck about rule-breakers. Makes me sad.

Not saying all regulars are bad, a lot of them are great, it's just that there are some that are extremely unfit to be one
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Deacon on June 27, 2011, 06:38:35 PM
:D Thanks mate, but also,I don't even recognize half of the regulars and they don't give a flying fuck about rule-breakers. Makes me sad.

Not saying all regulars are bad, a lot of them are great, it's just that there are some that are extremely unfit to be one


Record
Report

This goes for anyone of any rank
Regulars are basically our community front-runners.
They are representatives.
They should not be running around acting like morons.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Pontus on June 27, 2011, 06:43:55 PM
yea i like it ^^

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Sabb on June 27, 2011, 07:12:10 PM

Record
Report

This goes for anyone of any rank
Regulars are basically our community front-runners.
They are representatives.
They should not be running around acting like morons.
It's hard as shit to do that though, because they don't do it frequently around ranked members and usually it's as simple as people -1'ing every vote or bringing bias into a vote.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on June 27, 2011, 07:16:43 PM

Record
Report

This goes for anyone of any rank
Regulars are basically our community front-runners.
They are representatives.
They should not be running around acting like morons.

Well, I honestly don't think anyone will listen to me when I make a report saying "Oh mah gawd, this regular is doing nothing while people are glitchingggggggg, demote them naowww"  I'm not implying that you guys have bad judgement, but making a report just for a regular not doing their job isn't going to get much attention.

The motto of the regular is Record it, report it. I attempt to do this as much as I can and enforce others to do it, it just doesn't seem to get to them though.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Mr. Franklin on June 27, 2011, 09:11:04 PM
Well most of the admin applications have 2 posts in them AND THEY GET ACCEPTED. But what if VIP's have an option to post their opinion?
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Sabb on June 27, 2011, 10:05:56 PM
Well most of the admin applications have 2 posts in them AND THEY GET ACCEPTED... So if only VIP and Admins can post in an admin app, but only admins have the true vote, then that is the best solution.
I don't think you really understand.

Admins' votes in an admin application are similar to VIP's votes in a VIP's application, they don't really decide if the person is going to get promoted or not. For VIP's, admins are the ones who decide who gets promoted, and VIPs get to state their opinions on the people and what not, and in an admin application admins are the VIPs, they get to state their opinions and what not, but ultimately don't decide who gets promoted. Only coolz decides who gets promoted when it comes to admin applications. So, the point of having VIPs being allowed to comment on admin applications is to get opinions across and different perspectives seen. Which is what the admins commenting on admin applications already do. But even so, it's best to get more opinions across. So really VIPs and admins will comment on admin applications, and most likely admins' words will affect coolz' decision more so than VIPs would, but I feel it's important that coolz and the admins understand other view points and other experiences.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Mr. Franklin on June 27, 2011, 10:27:56 PM
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Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on June 28, 2011, 11:45:48 PM
No lol.
Pretty much any Reg that is active on the forums isn't bad.

Awesome :D

Anyway i do agree with this idea
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Seb on June 28, 2011, 11:51:07 PM
I'm okay with this, coming from the guy with five fucking failed VIP apps, one of which was a hand-drawn comic.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Sabb on June 29, 2011, 12:19:18 PM
Heh, well coolz is on a cruise or w/e, idk when he's getting back so idk when we can do this :l.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on June 29, 2011, 02:51:44 PM
Heh, well coolz is on a cruise or w/e, idk when he's getting back so idk when we can do this :l.

Word is, he may be getting on today, it's gonna be one helluva surprise when everyone is PM'ing all at once xD
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: StartedBullet on June 29, 2011, 08:55:13 PM
I say VIPs should reply, if only to state the opinions they have of the applicant. Sorry, but there are WAY too many regs to allow them to vote.

+1
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: noisymanray on June 30, 2011, 07:59:02 AM
 :thumbsup:  Great idea man!
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Sabb on July 09, 2011, 07:16:53 PM
Bumped for further discussion.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: Alex Mason, SOG on July 09, 2011, 08:20:46 PM
I think Myppl8 should decide the admins.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Promotion System
Post by: coolzeldad on July 14, 2011, 04:47:02 PM
Okay I see his point.. But just to clarify to current and future VIP, this isn't a vote system.

The section is for any comments on the person's character, actions, etc.

I'll allow VIPs to post on admin applications for now and see how it goes.