.:`=-~rANdOm~`-=:. Game Servers
Bans (Read Only) => Appeal => Approved => Topic started by: ursus on June 26, 2011, 10:06:45 PM
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I'm going to do this again. It's a bit late. This probably sounds stupid.
Some of you may say it wasn't long enough, but it felt right to me.
I'm not going to demand anything, I won't argue with anyone, and for the sake of my sanity, I'll try to not reply to the thread until a decision is reached.
There's only a couple of things I want to ask:
Please don't turn this into a shitstorm. If you want to -1 this because you can, or because you think I don't deserve it, I won't stop you. But don't shit post, please.
The other thing I'm asking is to be unbanned, but that takes a paragraph or two.
Forgive me if I over-explain or over-exaggerate points, because I have the feeling that I will.
For those of you who don't know, let me tell you a story.
I received a free scriptenforcer bypass from a friend, and for whatever reason decided to use it. Minic had mercy on my soul, and gave me a 3 day ban.
On the day before the ban was over, I was on an alternate account, and joined the servers with the bypass active. In another bout of stupidity, I decided to bypass the ban. Someone complained, Ruben saw the matching IP's, and I received a permaban. The end.
I'm not going to go into detail, because that makes everyone more likely to question details.
Even though it's self-evident, let me say some things:
I do not believe that my actions were justified.
I think the permaban was justified, but that's why this is called an appeal.
Unless you post something unbelievably false, I'm not going to attempt to defend my position any more than is necessary.
I'm not asking for a clean slate, I'm not asking to be forgiven completely, I'm only asking for a second chance to prove that I've changed in the last few months. To be able to play with everyone in TTT is all I want right now. I don't feel like a complete part of the community when I can't be a part of what it revolves around.
I previously thought that I would just leave RND, but I have too many memories rooted in the community (inb4 "nigga you gay").
My steam ID is STEAM_0:1:18619921.
If you manage to think of something that I left out here, PM me and I'll add it.
I changed my mind, I'm not going to write much.
I'm sorry for everything.
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Honestly, it was a mistake. Thats it. We all make them.
I trust Gamefreak immensely, so much so that I have given full access to my servers. I know he won't go around and fuck shit up, I know he'll tell me if he does something.
As he said, his actions weren't justified, which tells me he obviously won't do it again.
:thumbsup: to appeal.
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:thumbsup: he's learned his lesson, Deserves to be unbanned!
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:thumbsup:
I don't want to get into a huge discussion over it, but yea.
I think he'll be fine unbanned.
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Honestly, it was a mistake. Thats it. We all make them.
I trust Gamefreak immensely, so much so that I have given full access to my servers. I know he won't go around and fuck shit up, I know he'll tell me if he does something.
As he said, his actions weren't justified, which tells me he obviously won't do it again.
:thumbsup: to appeal.
:thumbsup: he's learned his lesson, Deserves to be unbanned!
:thumbsup:
I don't want to get into a huge discussion over it, but yea.
I think he'll be fine unbanned.
All these.
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hmm... I think you gave up your chance after u tried to cheat twice
could see it different but snivy says it was a mistake... i wanna say its not because if it was a mistake you wouldnt have done it twice
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hmm... I think you gave up your chance after u tried to cheat twice
could see it different but snivy says it was a mistake... i wanna say its not because if it was a mistake you wouldnt have done it twice
By mistake, I mean he shouldn't have done it anyways, and he knows he shouldn't have. Theres nothing he can really do now, since he can't change the past.
He just wants a second chance. During his ban, Gamefreaks been active on the forums the entire time, and never showed signs that he was "mad". He kept his cool, and waited it out.
But I can't change your opinion of him, that's your decision to make.
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but u say second chance, he got his second chance :/
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After what i have experienced,
I'm inclined to say no.
But after watching xexxar come back...
fair is fair.
he knows damn well what he did wrong.
And we will be watching.
And he knows that.
That being said, bring him back.
Worst case scenario, its just another ban
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After what i have experienced,
I'm inclined to say no.
But after watching xexxar come back...
fair is fair.
he knows damn well what he did wrong.
And we will be watching.
And he knows that.
That being said, bring him back.
Worst case scenario, its just another ban
What Deacon said, and also, he HAS been active on the forum and has shown no sign of being mad or anything like that. I never even realized he was banned (or thought about it) untill someone has posted something about him being banned. Although I have heard about him doing some bad things, he WILL be watched, if he does something again, no more chances.
+1 I guess
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Why do people think that there can be only two chances?
Oh please, we all make much more mistakes in life and at some cases, we need much more then one chance to redeem ourselves.
We don't get kicked out of school when we make a same mistake twice do we? Like cheating on a test, not doing your homework
or making grammar and calculation mistakes.
After all, gamefreak is not adult and I'm sure he'll make more mistakes later, but this is normal because he
is still young, I mean even adults makes mistakes. And some of those mistakes are much worse.
But lets focus on your appeal, gamefreak.
Since I what I have said, I'm not going to -1 because I would contradict myself.
:thumbsup:
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Honestly, a +/- 0 from me
Gamefreak, you are a wonderful person, and even though I haven't played that much with you, I think you are nice, funny, and overall a nice person.
But, I don't like the fact you decided to bypass the ban. You could of waited another day, and all of this would of been avoided. You were very lucky Minic banned you for simply 3 days. It could of been way worse. Like I stated before, it's simply 3 days. I just can't really have full trust in you anymore.
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Support. Everyone's basically summed it up.
But I can understand where Gamefreak is coming from.
I was in a situation almost exactly like this with Deacon
Good Luck Gamefreak, I really hope you get this appeal approved.
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Definitely :thumbsup: - gamefreak is/was/would be very active and has always been a great friend to me.
I do believe he fully learnt his lesson from his long ban and I am very sure that he won't do shit like this again.
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Yes, have mercy on this nigga.
Hes apart of the brotherhood.
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:thumbsup:
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the hard work that you put into this shows me you really care so its a :thumbsup: from me homie see u around ^^
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Yes, have mercy on this nigga.
Hes apart of the brotherhood.
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From all the hard work you put into this, I think you deserve to be unbanned.
:thumbsup:
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:thumbsup:
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Gamefreak, I know that we have had some problems in the past(don't ask), but you know what, I've changed too and I am proud to give you a...a... :thumbsup:
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:thumbsup:
See you soon on the servers.
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Yes.
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:thumbsup:
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Being banned is like being in jail, you escape, you get caught and you stay for longer...
As long as you know what you did wrong and Swear not to do it ever again.
Then :thumbsup:
Im sure your not going to it ever again so :thumbsup:
See you on the servers :)
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See you on the servers :)
Don't you think it's a bit early to jump to conclusions?
Anyways, +1 simply because if he acts out again he gets banned again. Easy as that.
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People learn from their mistakes, :thumbsup:.
and if they don't...
if he acts out again he gets banned again. Easy as that.
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bump
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bump
to be fair
after a week of no posting i was going to bump it
but i decided against it
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to be fair
after a week of no posting i was going to bump it
but i decided against it
It's fine. The only people who -1'nd it were Apie and Noisymary.
Nobody important.
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It's fine. The only people who -1'nd it were Apie and Noisymary.
Nobody important.
Dont just say bump its annoying... Say then something thats not bump...
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Get minic in this thread
i would unban but it would be against the TOS of adminz
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I really wish coolz would post something here :/.
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Get minic in this thread
i would unban but it would be against the TOS of adminz
i was not aware of this
i don't like to bother the supers though .-.
coolz minic and ruben are afk all the time anyways :/
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A little late for my opinion to be added, but I believe its still valid. I have had negative and positive experience with gamefreak. Negative being in the past and positive being in the last couple of months. I personally trust him. So I will say :thumbsup: :thumbsup:.
"I do not know which makes a man more conservative—to know nothing but the present, or nothing but the past."
With that said watch him. If he is good, let him play. If he is bad, you do what needs to be done.
(On another note, I seem to see Minic a lot in ts3 now-a-days. Plus I have messaged him when he was set to away on Steam and he responds when he isn't away.)
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didn't occur to me until just now that some might not know, but everyone's aware that ruben banned me, right?
minic banned me for 3 days, but the perma came from ruben
Get minic in this thread
referring to this
on a side note, bump in case anyone else hasn't had a chance to give input yet
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Me and Gamefreak talked. He really want this second chance.
No respond from anyone. We cannot stand here and let things be ignored.
Ima take one for the team... Gamefreak ima unban you.
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didn't occur to me until just now that some might not know, but everyone's aware that ruben banned me, right?
minic banned me for 3 days, but the perma came from ruben
referring to this
on a side note, bump in case anyone else hasn't had a chance to give input yet
After speaking with you on Steam, I just wanted to post here and state that my opinion remains the same as it did for your last appeal.
For those who don't recall. I do not mind him being unbanned, I have pity for his situation, but it wasn't the smartest thing to do, which he's well aware of.
Hopefully this will find it's resolution soon than later.
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I vouch my support in favor of gamefreak being unbanned. He does deserve a second chance, reason being: He's been here a long time. Built support with a lot of people in the community. He doesn't seem to hold grudges on anyone either. And my final reason was mentioned in other posts, he kept his cool and maturity while on the forums. He didn't go around posting on other threads asking for his ban to be lifted, to tell you the truth I just found out he was banned! So I say :thumbsup:
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My personal opinion on this matter is that gamefreak should be unbanned. I think even though he tryed to bypass the ban which i personally think was very silly of him. That he does indeed deserve a second chance. Or for this matter i guess a 3rd chance. He seems to be a useful part of the fourms and of the servers when he plays he seems to be a reputible guy. Im assuming he was probably just hacking for lolz ( i can even admit to thinking about hacking for fun acouple times). I think he should be unbanned and watched for awhile to see if he hacks again and if he hacks again then he deserves the perm he got but if he doesnt i think it is a good idea to unban him because it is easy to reban him if anything goes wrong while he is unbanned. :thumbsup:
+1 if thats any help.
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Why are people still posting in this
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Why are people still posting in this
Because it's not locked and people don't realize he's not banned?
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Gamefreak ima unban you.
message should be clear
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message should be clear
I was told by coolz that peetah's approval wasn't "official", and it won't be until he approves it himself. I'm just waiting right now.
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I was told that you knew it was a joke and that you continued to carry it out as a serious note and try to play an admin
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I was told that you knew it was a joke and that you continued to carry it out as a serious note and try to play an admin
who told you that? ._.
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a source more credible than urs
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a source more credible than urs
i never asked anyone to unban me, the only person i asked to do anything was asking minic to post in this thread because tomcat said to get minic in the thread in the first place
i never even asked peetah to say anything, that was his idea entirely
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i never said u asked anyone, all i posted was
I was told that you knew it was a joke and that you continued to carry it out as a serious note and try to play an admin
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i never said u asked anyone, all i posted was
And in response, I said that I never asked anyone to do anything whatsoever except for asking minic to post in the thread. Whoever told you that was misinformed.
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ya ur prob right i guess coolz lied to me
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ya ur prob right i guess coolz lied to me
I never said coolz lied to you.
If you bothered to read my post:
Whoever told you that was misinformed.
I never said whoever told you that lied, I said they were misinformed. Those are two completely different things.
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no u saying me being misinformed about coolz telling me something.... implies... that he lied about it to me
unless ur telling me that him repeating it to me multiple times the same way = me misinformed
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Moo your taking it the wrong way.
Anyways, I acted only because I wanted to help a friend.
If I had access to source bans I would have unbanned him long time ago.
It is all my intentions not his.
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no u saying me being misinformed about coolz telling me something.... implies... that he lied about it to me
unless ur telling me that him repeating it to me multiple times the same way = me misinformed
I doubt coolz just as much as you do, if he said it then I'm sure there was a good reason for it that I don't know about. However, I'm telling you now that I never tried to manipulate peetah's post in my favor.
From what I know, peetah didn't post as a "joke" either. Until coolz told me personally that I would have to wait for him to approve it himself, I was under the impression that peetah was going to try to unban me but couldn't because he lacked access to sourcebans.
Again, I'm not trying to imply that anyone is lying to anyone.
//er, what peetah said
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wat i was not misinformed about was that u guys were playing, peetah played it as a joke to get people to read ur appeal again
then u took it to the next level and pretended it wasnt a joke and try to play some admins
i never said or mentioned anything about u trying to manipulate peetah, you typing that out makes me think u did tho
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Hey moo just gunna clear things up.
Crash tried to stop me, but no little man can stop me.
Then it turned out I had no access to source bans, thats what stopped me.
Regardless if it's not my ban I can still fight for this as my own opinion.
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Regardless if it's not my ban
didn't occur to me until just now that some might not know, but everyone's aware that ruben banned me, right?
minic banned me for 3 days, but the perma came from ruben
on a side note, bump in case anyone else hasn't had a chance to give input yet
just going to point this out: ruben perma'd me, and he hasn't been active or online for a long time
so it's kind of impossible for you to ask him about it as far as i know :I
again, not encouraging anything, but thats kind of contradictory ._.
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Since Crash has a 0% chance.
Would it not be fair to let the community decide the final decision?
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Since Crash has a 0% chance.
Wat, you mean Coolz is going to deny it without a doubt?
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Since Crash has a 0% chance.
Would it not be fair to let the community decide the final decision?
if variable "community" = coolz;
then post = correct
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Wat, you mean Coolz is going to deny it without a doubt?
Peetah said he couldn't unban me since it wasn't his ban in the first place. I pointed out that it was ruben's ban, and he's not active as much anymore so this is a ban paradox.
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It's fine. The only people who -1'nd it were Apie and Noisymary.
Nobody important.
I +1'nd the post.
/facepalm
and its noisymaNray
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I +1'nd the post.
/facepalm
and its noisymaNray
I don't intend to be mean, but could you stay on topic?
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I +1'nd the post.
/facepalm
and its noisymaNray
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/5271/dudewat.png)
I don't intend to be mean, but could you stay on topic?
Well, theres nothing really left to talk about.
We're just waiting for the final verdict, right?
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Well, theres nothing really left to talk about.
We're just waiting for the final verdict, right?
Peetah suggested that we have a vote, seeing as ruben is inactive and coolz is unlikely/too busy to post.
If there's numbers saying how many people say yes and how many people say no, it'll be much easier.
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The only thing I can say is that Xexxar had a vote to see the Community's opinion so why not gamereak? I'm still neutral in the unban though.
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The only thing I can say is that Xexxar had a vote to see the Community's opinion so why not gamereak? I'm still neutral in the unban though.
Should I add a vote to the current thread
...?
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Should I add a vote to the current thread
...?
Doitfgt.
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Doitfgt.
Added
Try to get people who have already posted to come back in and vote
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I DUN VOTE YES
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Best of luck.
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If his actions on the forums are different on the servers, let him be unbanned. If his actions are the same, keep him banned.
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If his actions on the forums are different on the servers, let him be unbanned. If his actions are the same, keep him banned.
...What does that mean?
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...What does that mean?
If you don't know what that means, I will let you find out what it is. All you have to do is read all your posts and discover what it is.
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...What does that mean?
You'll just have to excuse Mr Franklin's logic
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You'll just have to excuse Mr Franklin's logic
Well whatever it is, it's important enough that he thinks I should be permabanned for it and I should find out the reason myself. I feel like I should know.
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Well whatever it is, it's important enough that he thinks I should be permabanned for it and I should find out the reason myself. I feel like I should know.
No, really.
Don't try to understand his logic.
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Very complex logic.
He speaks of numbers and code.
Look at all then If statments.
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Very complex logic.
He speaks of numbers and code.
Look at all then If statments.
alot of then if statements.
alot of if then statements.
Too many statements.
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A post from me is long due.
About a couple weeks ago I was leaning toward an unban and careful watch..
However. During that time Peetah, gamefreak, and a few other people including myself were playing Left 4 Dead 2.
That is when Peetah made the post about issuing an unban for gamefreak.
Regardless of what was thought about the legitimacy of the post, I made sure to clarify the role of the post for gamefreak as non-influential on the final judgment.
This is because I would rather take full consideration of the community, the original ban, and make the final closing statements than let a single admin decide.
A few days later gamefreak talked to Minic inquiring the legitimacy of Peetah's post about the unban.
As you can see now, gamefreak had already known about Peetah's post and was attempting to see what response Minic would have.
It was an attempt to play on an Admin's ignorance of the situation and their judgement.
I find it extremely hard to unban someone who is yet again at the reigns of manipulation.. which is the root of what got him into this permanent ban.
As that is said, I will postpone any action to be considered for a minimum of a month's time.
The earliest consideration for an unban of gamefreak will be September 01, 2011.
Anyone may continue to post in an effort to sway the community's response to an unban.
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A post from me is long due.
About a couple weeks ago I was leaning toward an unban and careful watch..
However. During that time Peetah, gamefreak, and a few other people including myself were playing Left 4 Dead 2.
That is when Peetah made the post about issuing an unban for gamefreak.
Regardless of what was thought about the legitimacy of the post, I made sure to clarify the role of the post for gamefreak as non-influential on the final judgment.
This is because I would rather take full consideration of the community, the original ban, and make the final closing statements than let a single admin decide.
A few days later gamefreak talked to Minic inquiring the legitimacy of Peetah's post about the unban.
As you can see now, gamefreak had already known about Peetah's post and was attempting to see what response Minic would have.
It was an attempt to play on an Admin's ignorance of the situation and their judgement.
I find it extremely hard to unban someone who is yet again at the reigns of manipulation.. which is the root of what got him into this permanent ban.
As that is said, I will postpone any action to be considered for a minimum of a month's time.
The earliest consideration for an unban of gamefreak will be September 01, 2011.
Anyone may continue to post in an effort to sway the community's response to an unban.
Wow this was very watchful of you and I think a reasonable verdict.
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Wow this was very watchful of you and I think a reasonable verdict.
Wow this was very helpful of you and I think a useful post.
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Wow this was very helpful of you and I think a useful post.
I fucking love you, and I lol'd heartily.
The earliest consideration for an unban of gamefreak will be September 01, 2011.
Thanks coolz, I missed having my dear jujubes in the servers
See you then <3
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I fucking love you, and I lol'd heartily.
Thanks coolz, I missed having my dear jujubes in the servers
See you then <3
He didn't say he would unban me, he said he won't CONSIDER it until a month from now.
Meaning, a month from now, it's this over again. Not a month from now, I'm unbanned.
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He didn't say he would unban me, he said he won't CONSIDER it until a month from now.
Meaning, a month from now, it's this over again. Not a month from now, I'm unbanned.
Oh.
But wtf, you've been banned for so long already.
And it wasn't even intentional (At least I don't think so?)
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Oh.
But wtf, you've been banned for so long already.
And it wasn't even intentional (At least I don't think so?)
What..
Really
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Oh.
But wtf, you've been banned for so long already.
And it wasn't even intentional (At least I don't think so?)
Not sure what you mean by not intentional.
It wasn't like I went "I'M GOING TO EVADE DIS BAN BECAUS I HATE RND LOLO"
But I knew more or less what I was doing.
Again, I chose not to explain the entire story because if I did, someone would say I lied at some point.
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Oh.
But wtf, you've been banned for so long already.
And it wasn't even intentional (At least I don't think so?)
Things get changed when people start trying to manipulate others.
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Oh.
But wtf, you've been banned for so long already.
And it wasn't even intentional (At least I don't think so?)
How do you unintentionally get a scriptenforcer bypass and evade a ban? Just read the first post :/
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Things get changed when people start trying to manipulate others.
Just FYI
I never asked minic to unban me
I talked to him and figured out what I did that was interpreted as manipulation, but it's too late to change things
to be honest, peetah meant well but the post just created more confusion than was needed
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How do you unintentionally get a scriptenforcer bypass and evade a ban? Just read the first post :/
I don't think you really understand what was going on...
He didn't use the scriptencforcer to bypass a ban...
At least I never heard he had done that.
But anyways, I think we should listen to him guys.
He's currently evading a forum ban. He knows his shit.
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Well my over all plan was to get him unbanned.
From what I saw this appeal would just have been be forgotten about.
My idea was to speed up the process and break the loop of ruben never showing up.
I was trying to get him unbanned on the spot to lol.
I guess we will have to w8 to see.
Sorry for the trouble everyone.
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I received a free scriptenforcer bypass from a friend, and for whatever reason decided to use it. Minic had mercy on my soul, and gave me a 3 day ban.
On the day before the ban was over, I was on an alternate account, and joined the servers with the bypass active. In another bout of stupidity, I decided to bypass the ban. Someone complained, Ruben saw the matching IP's, and I received a permaban. The end.
You cant be serious guys i dont know whats going on did anyone even read this. (Mabye i was wrong about him bypassing with scriptenforcerer bypass) but either way its not like he accidentally logged on and was just magically past the ban.
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You cant be serious guys i dont know whats going on did anyone even read this. (Mabye i was wrong about him bypassing with scriptenforcerer bypass) but either way its not like he accidentally logged on and was just magically past the ban.
You don't read much, do you.
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UNBAN IMEDIATLEY :thumbsup:
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UNBAN IMEDIATLEY :thumbsup:
You don't read much, do you.
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You don't read much, do you.
He's called mister derps for a reason.
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I have decided to unban gamefreak from the servers.
I am not doing this because I feel he has earned that right.
I'm using this ban and appeal as a precedent for further situations.
Any action from gamefreak that even seemingly resembles shady, malicious, or misconduct will mark his last mistake he will officially make.
Said that, this does not mark him for specific or special criticism because of his situation however he will be watched closely because of his past trends.
I would like to remind everyone of the purpose I've had in mind from the beginning, that this is a place for people to have fun.
I have certain and very few rules I've implemented in order to maintain the best ability to uphold that ideal.
Having said that, I would like to welcome gamefreak back to the game servers and hope he has fun and stooph.
I'd also like to thank everyone for their patience and input on the matter so far.
Haz fun n stufz! :D