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Title: Jail or Death?
Post by: blαh2355 on June 14, 2011, 10:13:43 AM
So guys, do you think people convicted of huge crimes such as mass murder or w/e should be put in jail for life, or should be put to death.

People are sometimes put to death since it's simple and it pays for their crimes but some people don't like people dying even from their crimes.

On the other hand, jails keep those criminals for life and we could just leave them there so they wouldn't do anything else but it costs so much to keep them there.

Discuss.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Cake Faice on June 14, 2011, 10:22:54 AM
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Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: blαh2355 on June 14, 2011, 10:25:11 AM
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It was an idea I got that got sparked up of your arguement with Frank in the other thread :P
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Deacon on June 14, 2011, 10:40:28 AM
death.

I don't see why i am paying for the rapists and child molesters, the pimps, druggies, the murderers
to have food, water, and the armed shelter none of us could buy.

Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: ٶȻhriʂ on June 14, 2011, 10:41:06 AM
guy murdered my family:jail/death...DEATH MUTHA FUCKA!
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Deacon on June 14, 2011, 10:42:32 AM
Don't get me wrong here; Crimes should fit their punishment

but the unforgivables...
the ones in jail for life
20+ years
death row

not worth it.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Shawn on June 14, 2011, 10:44:02 AM
jail, I'm Canadian i don't believe in Capital punishment.

And besides you'd be no different then the murder if you killed him.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on June 14, 2011, 10:44:40 AM
death.

I don't see why i am paying for the rapists and child molesters, the pimps, druggies, the murderers
to have food, water, and the armed shelter none of us could buy.

Hell, if you put it that way, makes it seem better to just to kill them. Also, 20+ years and deathrow? If they were smart they would just suicide...This world is crazy now huh?
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: ٶȻhriʂ on June 14, 2011, 10:47:59 AM
guy called me a faggot:jail for 2 years
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Cake Faice on June 14, 2011, 10:48:34 AM
And besides you'd be no different then the murder if you killed him.

But...did the prosecutor cause people harm and deaths of many innocent lives? I don't want to get into another debated argument about this...but I've heard many people say that before
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on June 14, 2011, 10:50:22 AM
But...did the prosecutor cause people harm and deaths of many innocent lives?

^ This, also, when they kill them, isn't it painless? (sorry groggy right now and I'm even forgetting what my left from my right is...)
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Shawn on June 14, 2011, 10:51:09 AM
But...did the prosecutor cause people harm and deaths of many innocent lives?

yes, many innocent people have been sent to jail due to stupid judgments. If you fully believe the justice system is 100% then god help us all

^ This, also, when they kill them, isn't it painless? (sorry groggy right now and I'm even forgetting what my left from my right is...)

no its actually quick painful.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: ٶȻhriʂ on June 14, 2011, 10:51:14 AM
And besides you'd be no different then the murder if you killed him.
if you don't kill the murderer all those innocent people he killed
would have died in vain so death
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on June 14, 2011, 10:53:23 AM

no its actually quick painful.

Well, it most likely beats being stabbed, shot, choked, raped, etc, etc. O_o
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Tiger Guy on June 14, 2011, 10:56:13 AM
guy called me a faggot:jail for 2 years
Frank would like that law.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Shawn on June 14, 2011, 11:00:59 AM
Well, it most likely beats being stabbed, shot, choked, raped, etc, etc. O_o

no it doesn't being shot barley hurts (depending where you got hit) in fact its hurts a hell of alot more being shot from a rubber bullet or a beanbag gun because it doesn't penetrate the skin. being put into a chair then having 1000's of volts of electricity going through you is going to hurt like a mother fuck.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Don on June 14, 2011, 11:05:36 AM
if you don't kill the murderer all those innocent people he killed
would have died in vain so death
So their murder getting killed makes their death have a point?
Dude.
Get out.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: ٶȻhriʂ on June 14, 2011, 11:12:28 AM
So their murder getting killed makes their death have a point?
Dude.
Get out.
i dunno. i just like revenge :idk: (no offence)
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Shawn on June 14, 2011, 11:15:20 AM
i dunno. i just like revenge :idk: (no offence)

i'm willing to bet If you were the one that had to pull the trigger you would chicken out (no offence)

i'm willing to bet 90% of the people that are for the death plenty would change their minds if they actually had to pull the trigger...
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: ٶȻhriʂ on June 14, 2011, 11:16:50 AM
i'm willing to bet If you were the one that had to pull the trigger you would chicken out (no offence)
wtf...no
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: alexoidother on June 14, 2011, 11:32:12 AM
I'd be like Ezio Auditore! He killed alot of ppl and he didn't went in jail he continued to kill ppl!!!
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: ٶȻhriʂ on June 14, 2011, 11:33:06 AM
I'd be like Ezio Auditore! He killed alot of ppl and he didn't went in jail he continued to kill ppl!!!
so fucking true...
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Cable on June 14, 2011, 11:34:51 AM
I totally tl;dr'd the whole thread after reading the OP.

Just kill them,
Why waste your tax money? So it can go to a dumpy jail and give food to criminals?

No.
Just no.

/shitty13yearoldlogic
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: ٶȻhriʂ on June 14, 2011, 11:38:02 AM
I totally tl;dr'd the whole thread after reading the OP.

Just kill them,
Why waste your tax money? So it can go to a dumpy jail and give food to criminals?

No.
Just no.
*kills family*
me: D:<
Criminal:>:D
*pulls outshotgun*
Criminal: D:<
*headshot*
me:>:D
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: alexoidother on June 14, 2011, 11:46:03 AM
*kills family*
me: D:<
Criminal:>:D
*pulls outshotgun*
Criminal: D:<
*headshot*
me:>:D
Criminal: :abuse:
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Sabb on June 14, 2011, 12:02:04 PM
So I what I got this thread:
Majority of the community would rather kill a person than have him live in a shitty jail for the rest of his life, because they don't want to pay taxes for them.
Well, First of all, most of the community here doesn't pay taxes...
Second of all, if there were no death sentence any where, you would still be paying for similar amount of taxes because no doubt the government will make up some new bullshit taxes for something else to keep you paying a similar amount.

Also, from what I know, lethal injection isn't all too cheap either, but I'm probably wrong on that.

Anyhow, wtf is the last option?
Both?

How can you kill a person and have him in jail?
I don't think it counts if you keep their corpse in jail.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Cable on June 14, 2011, 12:04:10 PM
So I what I got this thread:
Majority of the community would rather kill a person than have him live in a shitty jail for the rest of his life, because they don't want to pay taxes for them.
Well, First of all, most of the community here doesn't pay taxes...
Second of all, if there were no death sentence any where, you would still be paying for similar amount of taxes because no doubt the government will make up some new bullshit taxes for something else to keep you paying a similar amount.

Also, from what I know, lethal injection isn't all too cheap either, but I'm probably wrong on that.

Anyhow, wtf is the last option?
Both?

How can you kill a person and have him in jail?
I don't think it counts if you keep their corpse in jail.
I think the both category means like,
Put the person in jail for 30 years and kill them?
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Sabb on June 14, 2011, 12:05:40 PM
I think the both category means like,
Put the person in jail for 30 years and kill them?
Ahh that makes more sense.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on June 14, 2011, 12:10:00 PM
Ahh that makes more sense.

Personally, I think it would make more sense if they just ended their misery and not wait 30 years for what's coming..
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: RadioActivetomatoes on June 14, 2011, 12:11:28 PM
If I ran a country, it would be an arm for an arm.
Example:
Someone gouges another person's eye.
We gouge his eye.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Cable on June 14, 2011, 12:12:18 PM
Personally, I think it would make more sense if they just ended their misery and not wait 30 years for what's coming..
That wouldn't be much punishment though.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on June 14, 2011, 12:12:38 PM
If I ran a country, it would be an arm for an arm.
Example:
Someone gouges another person's eye.
We gouge his eye.

So what if they torture 10+ people...? Howdya do that?
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Sabb on June 14, 2011, 12:16:01 PM
Personally, I think it would make more sense if they just ended their misery and not wait 30 years for what's coming..
Well if it's punishment you're really looking for (I don't mean you specifically), than it would be more punishing to have the person live a limited life in jail. The people wanting a person through a death sentence are only looking for immediate satisfaction, as disturbing as it sounds. But when you think of it a minute, if a person is sent to jail, they're going to review their whole lives every minute they're in there, thinking what they could have done differently and if what they had done was necessary or proper, and wishing they had their freedom back. So jail is more of a punishment in other words. If more people looked away from in the moment, and didn't have their minds so focused on revenge, a lot more people were realize this.


EDIT:
If I ran a country, it would be an arm for an arm.
Example:
Someone gouges another person's eye.
We gouge his eye.
This post explains its own derp...
I don't think I even need to pull out a handy quote on this.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Cake Faice on June 14, 2011, 12:16:39 PM
So what if they torture 10+ people...? Howdya do that?

Or what if it's a case of rape...involving scat.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Sabb on June 14, 2011, 12:17:41 PM
Or what if it's a case of rape...involving scat.
Well, Cake Face would help out in that case I'm sure.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: ٶȻhriʂ on June 14, 2011, 12:18:53 PM
Or what if it's a case of rape...involving scat.
...just no
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on June 14, 2011, 12:20:08 PM
Well if it's punishment you're really looking for (I don't mean you specifically), than it would be more punishing to have the person live a limited life in jail. The people wanting a person through a death sentence are only looking for immediate satisfaction, as disturbing as it sounds. But when you think of it a minute, if a person is sent to jail, they're going to review their whole lives every minute they're in there, thinking what they could have done differently and if what they had done was necessary or proper, and wishing they had their freedom back. So jail is more of a punishment in other words. If more people looked away from in the moment, and didn't have their minds so focused on revenge, a lot more people were realize this.

But thinking about all those thoughts, the thoughts of when you were free, about how you would never have that back, that the rest of your life is going to be sitting in a jail cell thinking about these depressing thoughts and then knowing when you would meet your maker, that is torture, and if I were them, I would have just suicided and stop my own suffering. Although it WOULD be the cowardly way to deal with it
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Cake Faice on June 14, 2011, 12:21:18 PM
Well, Cake Face would help out in that case I'm sure.

Err...oh boy...

Well, as long as I get paid a hefty amount and the person is unconscious/unaware and we're both in privacy
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Sabb on June 14, 2011, 12:21:40 PM
But thinking about all those thoughts, the thoughts of when you were free, about how you would never have that back, that the rest of your life is going to be sitting in a jail cell thinking about these depressing thoughts and then knowing when you would meet your maker, that is torture, and if I were them, I would have just suicided and stop my own suffering. Although it WOULD be the cowardly way to deal with it
Not torture.
The people that end up there caused it themselves.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: ٶȻhriʂ on June 14, 2011, 12:24:52 PM
But thinking about all those thoughts, the thoughts of when you were free, about how you would never have that back, that the rest of your life is going to be sitting in a jail cell thinking about these depressing thoughts and then knowing when you would meet your maker, that is torture, and if I were them, I would have just suicided and stop my own suffering. Although it WOULD be the cowardly way to deal with it
that's just sad

i think i changed my mind about torture...
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Frank on June 14, 2011, 01:15:48 PM
>an eye for an eye



>and the whole world goes blind.



Say you give someone 30 years and death sentence. His sentence is done. 35 years after his imprisonment, new investigations prove he was innocent.

Now, what the fuck do you do?


Frank would like that law.
Also, no.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: ·UηİŦ·· on June 14, 2011, 04:35:07 PM
>an eye for an eye



>and the whole world goes blind.



Say you give someone 30 years and death sentence. His sentence is done. 35 years after his imprisonment, new investigations prove he was innocent.

Now, what the fuck do you do?

This is Silly.
I am Silly.
Silly.

But it's what my narcissistic-depressive-rationale side is saying.
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Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Seb on June 14, 2011, 04:37:44 PM
Death, but only for serial rapists, mass murderers, and serial killers.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: RadioActivetomatoes on June 14, 2011, 04:52:41 PM
So what if they torture 10+ people...? Howdya do that?
Clone him 10 times ..
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Frank on June 14, 2011, 05:09:14 PM
This is Silly.
I am Silly.
Silly.

But it's what my narcissistic-depressive-rationale side is saying.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I didn't fully understand.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Supertoaster on June 14, 2011, 05:15:22 PM
I think it depends how bad the crime was.


Some guy kills a man while mugging him prison. Prison


A man kills a whole family while they're sleeping. Death
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on June 14, 2011, 10:35:31 PM
Clone him 10 times ..

LOLwut
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: ٶȻhriʂ on June 15, 2011, 03:40:02 AM
A man kills a whole family while they're sleeping. Death
thats what im saying...
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: alexoidother on June 15, 2011, 11:44:17 AM
thats what im saying...
In our country we can't kill human if he murdered some1 only one way- jail(for whole life).
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: alexoidother on June 15, 2011, 11:47:19 AM
My sister if fighting against that, and I'm with her.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: blαh2355 on June 15, 2011, 03:01:34 PM
In our country we can't kill human if he murdered some1 only one way- jail(for whole life).

My sister if fighting against that, and I'm with her.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0JHEL8Pl_Ek/TeX-sOSPVZI/AAAAAAAAEiw/TdMdEQRgzz0/s1600/ohno1vw.gif)
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: memo3300 on June 15, 2011, 05:37:39 PM
I saw someone said it should be dead because of the revenge.

For me, life can be a gift but also can be a punishiment.

>From the point of view of someone that wants revenge, i would say the guy should go to jail his whole life.

>But from a point of view more ...(idk what to say here)... the main idea is to keep the society safe, so a man that raped and killed 15 childrems is a big danger to the comunity and should be killed.

>But from a point of view of religion... it is obvious that killing someone is bad.


Soo for me, letting someone live his wole life in jail is the best option.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Sabb on June 15, 2011, 05:39:33 PM
I saw someone said it should be dead because of the revenge.

For me, life can be a gift but also can be a punishiment.

>From the point of view of someone that wants revenge, i would say the guy should go to jail his whole life.

>But from a point of view more ...(idk what to say here)... the main idea is to keep the society safe, so a man that raped and killed 15 childrems is a big danger to the comunity and should be killed.

>But from a point of view of religion... it is obvious that killing someone is bad.


Soo for me, letting someone live his wole life in jail is the best option.
Wouldn't want to hurt the childrems.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Dale Feles on June 15, 2011, 05:51:31 PM
Wouldn't want to hurt the childrems.

locked up in the jail  :trollface:

Honestly, they should get jail for life. Nothing is more boring that standing in the same dull room for the rest of your life.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Frank on June 15, 2011, 05:52:58 PM
I saw someone said it should be dead because of the revenge.

For me, life can be a gift but also can be a punishiment.

>From the point of view of someone that wants revenge, i would say the guy should go to jail his whole life.

>But from a point of view more ...(idk what to say here)... the main idea is to keep the society safe, so a man that raped and killed 15 childrems is a big danger to the comunity and should be killed.

>But from a point of view of religion... it is obvious that killing someone is bad.


Soo for me, letting someone live his wole life in jail is the best option.
No, because religion(if with that you mean Christianism(legacy of Jewish religion)) says the whole town should throw rocks at a woman at her father's house if she lost her virginity before marriage.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: memo3300 on June 15, 2011, 06:14:09 PM
No, because religion(if with that you mean Christianism(legacy of Jewish religion)) says the whole town should throw rocks at a woman at her father's house if she lost her virginity before marriage.

If you are saying that killing is like trowing rocks, i belive jesus said "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Frank on June 15, 2011, 06:22:32 PM
If you are saying that killing is like trowing rocks, i belive jesus said "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."

>implying people listen to that

You don't see most Christians okay with fags, do you?
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: cogsandspigots on June 15, 2011, 06:28:46 PM
>implying people listen to that

You don't see most Christians okay with fags, do you?
Don't worry, I ok with you.
Besides, its not my place to judge, nor any human's.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Frank on June 15, 2011, 08:55:28 PM
Don't worry, I ok with you.
Besides, its not my place to judge, nor any human's.
Nice thinking.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Sabb on June 16, 2011, 11:19:30 AM
>implying people listen to that

You don't see most Christians okay with fags, do you?
Lets stereotype guys!

The Christians you are talking about are only the kind that preach shit about their religion (mostly orthodox Christians).
I can promise you that there are many more Christians than you know who don't follow stupid shit like that about disapproving gays and any other bullshit.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on June 16, 2011, 11:37:36 AM
Lets stereotype guys!

The Christians you are talking about are only the kind that preach shit about their religion (mostly orthodox Christians).
I can promise you that there are many more Christians than you know who don't follow stupid shit like that about disapproving gays and any other bullshit.

^This, I am Christian and I am okay with gays, actually. My old best friend was gay AND a furry but he was still cool...
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Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Seb on June 16, 2011, 11:39:19 AM
When I used to be Christian I was okay with gays and everything, I didn't get what all the hate was abo- do we REALLY have to have Frank start some kind of gay pride argument whenever he can?

Frank, you're gay and proud. We get it. You're cool and all but this is moderately annoying.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Cake Faice on June 16, 2011, 11:46:31 AM
Frank, you're gay and proud. We get it. You're cool and all but this is moderately annoying.

>because he was totally held a gun-point and forced to tell us all that he's homosexual.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Frank on June 16, 2011, 02:13:39 PM
When I used to be Christian I was okay with gays and everything, I didn't get what all the hate was abo- do we REALLY have to have Frank start some kind of gay pride argument whenever he can?

Frank, you're gay and proud. We get it. You're cool and all but this is moderately annoying.
>implying I was talking about gays


I was talking about discrimination in general. And I don't see what my sexuality has to do with murder.

Lets stereotype guys!

The Christians you are talking about are only the kind that preach shit about their religion (mostly orthodox Christians).
I can promise you that there are many more Christians than you know who don't follow stupid shit like that about disapproving gays and any other bullshit.
Show me them good guys!
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: cogsandspigots on June 16, 2011, 03:38:30 PM
Show me them good guys!
Don't worry, I ok with you.
Besides, its not my place to judge, nor any human's.
Derp. Just Derp.
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Frank on June 16, 2011, 04:52:17 PM
Derp. Just Derp.
>implying I said everyone
Title: Re: Jail or Death?
Post by: Tomcat on June 16, 2011, 05:02:58 PM
>because he was totally held a gun-point and forced to tell us all that he's homosexual.
Correct