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Title: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Deathie on May 07, 2011, 05:36:24 PM
For $250, I can snag myself a decent laptop.

Athlon 2x, 2.2GHZ
2GB DDR3 Ram
Radeon HD4250
(1366x768 screen for those who are curious).

Now, here's the thing, I need to decide to either get this laptop now, or keep saving up for a better one in the future.

I'll have the 250 by the end of this week, but I want to know if this one is worth jumping towards.

The Radeon 4250 seems great with most games, but I want to know if it'd last me for the next 2 years or so (still being able to play newer games).

I'm not a big whore when it comes to graphics, as long as it's playable at full resolution, I'm happy. (No AA/AF, Medium model and texture quality @ 20FPS is fine for me).


Opinions?
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Dale Feles on May 07, 2011, 05:46:52 PM
Depends... in long terms then you should save up. But in short terms, buy now. I would only buy one now if it was a DEFINITE need, such as school work etc... but I guess your looking for one for games. IMO, saving up will be more worthwhile.
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Deathie on May 07, 2011, 05:49:44 PM
Depends... in long terms then you should save up. But in short terms, buy now. I would only buy one now if it was a DEFINITE need, such as school work etc... but I guess your looking for one for games. IMO, saving up will be more worthwhile.

I need one by the end of summer, not just for games.

I'm going to be doing a lot of multi-media work with MPT and Sony Vegas, but I need something that can handle rendering previews without lagging like a mofo :L

I just want to know if this will last me for the rest of high school is all.
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Cake Faice on May 07, 2011, 06:14:42 PM
I need one by the end of summer, not just for games.

I'm going to be doing a lot of multi-media work with MPT and Sony Vegas, but I need something that can handle rendering previews without lagging like a mofo :L

I just want to know if this will last me for the rest of high school is all.

Eh, you might wanna save up for a laptop with a faster processor, like a core i5 or a turion 64.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Frank on May 07, 2011, 06:18:58 PM
I'd say that computer sucks if you want a good video editing shit. Get one by the end of summer. You'll get more for less.
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Tomcat on May 07, 2011, 06:22:02 PM
im waiting for xrain to post a wall of text


But still i think that you should buy it beacuse imo 2.2 dual core can run anything nowadays.

It can run cyrsis 2 even.


IDK though but imo, buy it...
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Osme on May 07, 2011, 06:25:31 PM
wait till end of summer and buy something nicer
with a SB cpu cause prices will come down
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Peetah on May 07, 2011, 06:34:19 PM
250$ is an awesome price.
Unseen in Canada.
It looks like an amazing deal but idk how it is in Usa.
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Deathie on May 07, 2011, 06:37:31 PM
250$ is an awesome price.
Unseen in Canada.
It looks like an amazing deal but idk how it is in Usa.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Laptop from local best buy (Can just walk in and buy it right now if I had the cash).
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: bipolardiz on May 07, 2011, 06:50:02 PM
I would say take it man.
1. You need to start playing games again.
2. Not going to find much better for that price.
3. Better than my old laptop that could run gmod on all low and shit.
4. It will last two years no doubt.
5. I want play games with you! :(
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Xrain on May 07, 2011, 08:13:38 PM
I need one by the end of summer, not just for games.

I'm going to be doing a lot of multi-media work with MPT and Sony Vegas, but I need something that can handle rendering previews without lagging like a mofo :L

I just want to know if this will last me for the rest of high school is all.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Radeon-HD-4250.29664.0.html (http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Radeon-HD-4250.29664.0.html)

Considering it wont really play current games at much above low if that. I'd say save your cash.

If you are going to do video editing 2 GB of ram isn't going to cut it.


Save your money, and get a desktop instead. You pay for the portability when you buy a laptop, so anything you get will automatically be more expensive when its a laptop. If you want the best bang for buck you can get get a desktop.


Just be paitent, start putting money away, an once you get around $600-800 you can get a pretty decent setup.
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Deathie on May 07, 2011, 08:22:09 PM
http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Radeon-HD-4250.29664.0.html (http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Radeon-HD-4250.29664.0.html)

Considering it wont really play current games at much above low if that. I'd say save your cash.

If you are going to do video editing 2 GB of ram isn't going to cut it.


Save your money, and get a desktop instead. You pay for the portability when you buy a laptop, so anything you get will automatically be more expensive when its a laptop. If you want the best bang for buck you can get get a desktop.


Just be paitent, start putting money away, an once you get around $600-800 you can get a pretty decent setup.

Saw a few videos of the 4250, and was surprised it could run Mirror's edge on High, and games like Black Ops on mid'. Just wanted to know if it'd stay like that for the next year or so, but since it won't, I guess this is not for me :L

It's not going to be heavy video editing, 4 channels at best, although I agree 2GB's is a bit small, the laptop I was looking at can go up to 6GB's, so I was thinking just get the lappy now, then upgrade ram to 4-6~GB's. mid-semester.

Can't use desktop. Laptops gonna be shuffled between three separate locations, plus I need it before summer is over, for the next school year.

I'm not getting the money by working, it's more of a thing where I'm pawning off stuff I bought but never used (already have about 180 from doing this), just need to sell this one thing, and I should have 250. $380 total once I sell everything (Might take a month though). I do a lot of local selling/buying through craigslist. Hasn't failed me yet.

The point I'm trying to make, is that this will be a one-time method of getting cash. Once it's all sold, I won't be making any more.
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Xrain on May 07, 2011, 08:24:55 PM
Saw a few videos of the 4250, and was surprised it could run Mirror's edge on High, and games like Black Ops on mid'. Just wanted to know if it'd stay like that for the next year or so, but since it won't, I guess this is not for me :L

It's not going to be heavy video editing, 4 channels at best, although I agree 2GB's is a bit small, the laptop I was looking at can go up to 6GB's, so I was thinking just get the lappy now, then upgrade ram to 4-6~GB's. mid-semester.

Can't use desktop. Laptops gonna be shuffled between three separate locations, plus I need it before summer is over, for the next school year.

I'm not getting the money by working, it's more of a thing where I'm pawning off stuff I bought but never used (already have about 180 from doing this), just need to sell this one thing, and I should have 250. $380 total once I sell everything (Might take a month though). I do a lot of local selling/buying through craigslist. Hasn't failed me yet.

The point I'm trying to make, is that this will be a one-time method of getting cash. Once it's all sold, I won't be making any more.

Start Mowing lawns  ;D
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Deathie on May 07, 2011, 08:28:34 PM
Start Mowing lawns  ;D

5$ per house
MY yard takes about 20 minutes to do
I'd need to mow 100 houses, which means working for about 34 Hours to get $500 for a laptop with a 9800GT


Nty.

:L

Also, I forgot another pocket of cash I might get from. Birfdais cummming in June.

Last year, I got a total of $220. Nobody actually bought me a present, just birthday cards with 20$ bills in them.
 ._.


Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Xrain on May 07, 2011, 08:40:59 PM
5$ per house
MY yard takes about 20 minutes to do
I'd need to mow 100 houses, which means working for about 34 Hours to get $500 for a laptop with a 9800GT


Nty.

:L

Also, I forgot another pocket of cash I might get from. Birfdais cummming in June.

Last year, I got a total of $220. Nobody actually bought me a present, just birthday cards with 20$ bills in them.
 ._.

Your kidding right?

$500 for 34 hours of work?

That's $14.70 an hour, that freeking over twice minimum wage.

What the heck are you complaining about. Your realize the standard work week is 40 hours right?

I got paid $20-50 a house, but it took anywhere from 3-8 hours to do a house, and your complaining about 20 min. Get out. Now.



You realize people in Mexico work all day for around $10, then they feed their family of 7 with that. I know this because I built a house for a guy as part of missionary work who had to live like this.
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Deathie on May 07, 2011, 08:55:49 PM
Your kidding right?

$500 for 34 hours of work?

That's $14.70 an hour, that freeking over twice minimum wage.

What the heck are you complaining about. Your realize the standard work week is 40 hours right?

I got paid $20-50 a house, but it took anywhere from 3-8 hours to do a house, and your complaining about 20 min. Get out. Now.



You realize people in Mexico work all day for around $10, then they feed their family of 7 with that. I know this because I built a house for a guy as part of missionary work who had to live like this.

Keep in mind, I'd only be able to travel about a square radius of two blocks, and that 19-out of-20 times, it will be "No thanks."

You forget, I said it takes about 20 minutes do a single yard for 5$. Over the course of 4 hours, I'd most likely only get three-four yards done.

Why even discuss this? It's not like I'm actually going to do it ._.

Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Xrain on May 07, 2011, 08:58:53 PM
Keep in mind, I'd only be able to travel about a square radius of two blocks, and that 19-out of-20 times, it will be "No thanks."

You forget, I said it takes about 20 minutes do a single yard for 5$. Over the course of 4 hours, I'd most likely only get three-four yards done.

Why even discuss this? It's not like I'm actually going to do it ._.

You want a laptop, they aren't free or cheap. That's why we are discussing this. You said you want to get one by the end of the summer, so this is how you get one.
Go do odd jobs, and then when the end of the summer rolls by you use all the money you saved up from working and your birthday, and buy a good laptop that will
have no problem lasting you till the end of the year.

This is how things like this work.
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Deathie on May 07, 2011, 09:05:37 PM
You want a laptop, they aren't free or cheap. That's why we are discussing this. You said you want to get one by the end of the summer, so this is how you get one.
Go do odd jobs, and then when the end of the summer rolls by you use all the money you saved up from working and your birthday, and buy a good laptop that will
have no problem lasting you till the end of the year.

This is how things like this work.

Don't confuse me for a spoiled kid who doesn't know jack shit.
Seriously.
Don't.

._.

I only asked if that Video card would last me for the next year or so. I didn't want this to turn into a stupid argument because people are reading into things too much. Relax bro :c

I would pull the "YOU DON'T KNOW ME" card, but it's pointless.

Lock topic before any other shit stirs up, I don't want to be the cause of another flame war.
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Osme on May 07, 2011, 09:14:56 PM
Don't confuse me for a spoiled kid who doesn't know jack shit.
Seriously.
Don't.

._.

I only asked if that Video card would last me for the next year or so. I didn't want this to turn into a stupid argument because people are reading into things too much. Relax bro :c

I would pull the "YOU DON'T KNOW ME" card, but it's pointless.

Lock topic before any other shit stirs up, I don't want to be the cause of another flame war.
think about it. not everyone is a bitter asshole, and many have actual jobs. some people, if youre nice, they will also be nice, and say yes even if they dont need shit done, and they give you 20 dollars
just make yourself looks younger. wear shorts and a striped polo shirt. maybe use hearing aid
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Cake Faice on May 07, 2011, 09:16:07 PM
...am I the only one who would attempt to build the whole Lemonade stand scenario?
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Xrain on May 07, 2011, 09:18:34 PM
Don't confuse me for a spoiled kid who doesn't know jack shit.
Seriously.
Don't.

._.

I only asked if that Video card would last me for the next year or so. I didn't want this to turn into a stupid argument because people are reading into things too much. Relax bro :c

I would pull the "YOU DON'T KNOW ME" card, but it's pointless.

Lock topic before any other shit stirs up, I don't want to be the cause of another flame war.

I apologize if it seemed I was accusing you of anything, that isn't my intention.


You said you wanted a computer that would A. last you till the end of high school, and B. capable of moderate video editing.
In addition You also said you had no steady source of income.

I'm just telling you how you a reasonable method you can get one, nothing more, nothing less.


I was slightly irked about the whole "Like I'd ever do something like that" attitude.
The main reason being, is I've been in your exact same position when I was a kid.

I really wanted a blow-gun (they are badass), Main problem was they cost ~$200 + darts and stuff. I also didn't have any money to buy it with.

So I mowed lawns. And these are Alaskan Lawns, which generally are 2+ Acres, and on the side of a hill. Not all that fun. But I did it anyway, and didn't get my blowgun.
Instead I got a paintball gun :D

...am I the only one who would attempt to build the whole Lemonade stand scenario?

I also attempted this as well, didn't pay that well, but I think that was more of a case of location (we kinda set it up on a steep hill, but there was a pull off so...)
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Deacon on May 07, 2011, 09:24:27 PM
Your kidding right?

$500 for 34 hours of work?

That's $14.70 an hour, that freeking over twice minimum wage.

What the heck are you complaining about. Your realize the standard work week is 40 hours right?

I got paid $20-50 a house, but it took anywhere from 3-8 hours to do a house, and your complaining about 20 min. Get out. Now.



You realize people in Mexico work all day for around $10, then they feed their family of 7 with that. I know this because I built a house for a guy as part of missionary work who had to live like this.

this
SO HARD.
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Deathie on May 07, 2011, 09:32:09 PM
I apologize if it seemed I was accusing you of anything, that isn't my intention.

Ehh, I guess I'm guilty of reading into it too much. :L No hard feelings?

I was slightly irked about the whole "Like I'd ever do something like that" attitude.

Wasn't trying to give you that impression. I've done odd jobs, like you've said. Last year, I designed the website for my local street fair for a hefty 100$ (Had to keep it managed, as it was semi-annual, as in updating photos and stuff). I just feel my time would be better spent to something of my skill as opposed to "mowing yards".

So I mowed lawns. And these are Alaskan Lawns, which generally are 2+ Acres, and on the side of a hill.
Ohshi--
Most people here prefer to cut it themselves anyways, seeing as the yards themselves are tiny.


Also, about the lemonade stand,

That would only work if I can get my 5 year old brother to sell it for me ._.

Everyone would buy from an adorable little kid, not from some random teenager :L



Also, rereading this, I can see how I'd come off with the "like I'd ever do that" attitude that you put it in. Try something like "Why do this, when I can do this, which would be easier and be something I enjoy?". I know that's everyone's goal, but I'm actually on track of doing it. c:
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Osme on May 07, 2011, 09:36:29 PM

Also, about the lemonade stand,

That would only work if I can get my 5 year old brother to sell it for me ._.

Everyone would buy from an adorable little kid, not from some random teenager :L



Also, rereading this, I can see how I'd come off with the "like I'd ever do that" attitude that you put it in. Try something like "Why do this, when I can do this, which would be easier and be something I enjoy?". I know that's everyone's goal, but I'm actually on track of doing it. c:
should have bought yugiho cards as a kid
i hear a small tin can be worth 750 easily
:trollface:
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Deathie on May 07, 2011, 09:37:34 PM
should have bought yugiho cards as a kid
i hear a small tin can be worth 750 easily
:trollface:

I did.

I had a legendary that was worth like 300$.

Idk where it is now though :<
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: Osme on May 07, 2011, 09:54:29 PM
I did.

I had a legendary that was worth like 300$.

Idk where it is now though :<
oh
ok
well you dont have :l
go look?
Title: Re: New laptop (Maybe), need answers.
Post by: » Magic « on May 08, 2011, 11:26:09 AM
4250

no go

for games?

it's a media IGP, no dedicated VRAM at all

I was looking through some laptops for meself and saw terrible reviews for that card

I'm talking cod4 640x484 low everything 24fps