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Title: I'm tired of this
Post by: Seb on December 11, 2010, 10:44:31 PM
Yet another karma system thread.



You can't take chances.
You have to be an absolute angel.
Mistakes cost too much.
Rewards aren't rewarding enough.
RDM hasn't gone down.
RDM has a bigger effect.
Not enough rewards.
Too many mistakes.
Crummy Cradle was so popular because of the traitor tester, which people kept voting as to be completely sure somebody was the traitor.
You have to be 125% sure somebody is the traitor to take the chance, and even then they might not be traitor.
You have to not do anything for 2+ hours to get your karma up to acceptable levels.
"x is the traitor!" is useless now that nobody is willing to take the chance.
Sometimes you don't even know why your karma went down because a stray bullet'/buckshot ball bearing hit somebody.

Part of the excitement of TTT is the chance to gamble. Is that person the traitor? Only one way to truly find out. But now the stakes are too high. The only reason I still play RND TTT is because I love the community.

The only people I see defending the karma system are people that as far as I can see don't play the server that often.

Change the karma system back to the old version, keep the perma-karma. Add rewards for defusing C4 / killing Innocents as Traitor.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Moo on December 11, 2010, 11:07:13 PM
banned: reason butthurt

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Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Carp on December 11, 2010, 11:15:12 PM
if i see another fkin thread im gonna fking kill u

LOL thats what you said on the last one.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Rocket50 on December 11, 2010, 11:19:13 PM
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Crummy Cradle was so popular because of the traitor tester, which people kept voting as to be completely sure somebody was the traitor.

Nope. I vote for crummy cradle because of its high sniper appeal

"x is the traitor!" is useless now that nobody is willing to take the chance.

Also no, its been always useless. People spam that all the time, whether permakarma or not.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Buddha on December 11, 2010, 11:23:34 PM
i don't really mind perma karma, actually, having 10 karma is pretty fun =) you get to shoot the traitors 9000 times and then you get knifed lolololol  :trollface:   
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: » Magic « on December 12, 2010, 02:50:39 AM
its gay

end of story

I don't play ttt anymore because of it and fucking RDM'ers
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Deathie on December 12, 2010, 06:15:45 AM
its gay

end of story

I don't play ttt anymore because of it and fucking RDM'ers

Sadly, same thing for me.
I gave up on TTT and moved to ZS.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: fenkeN on December 12, 2010, 07:04:39 AM
its gay

end of story

I don't play ttt anymore because of it and fucking RDM'ers
lol you're mad because you have low karma.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Sabb on December 12, 2010, 07:14:40 AM
Crummy Cradle was so popular because of the traitor tester, which people kept voting as to be completely sure somebody was the traitor.
Haha, nope.
People voted crummy because it was a fun map, it had stuff do that on it. People RARELY ever used the traitor tester. It took like 5 people over the mic to convince people to actually be smart and use it.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: ursus on December 12, 2010, 07:16:00 AM
I like the new karma system for this reason and this reason only:

1. Some 9-year old faggot joins and RDMs 4 people.
2. He has 10 karma next round.
3. I get to kill him freely for the next 3 rounds with no consequences. For added effect, drag his body around to look suspicious.
4. Some OTHER faggot kills me because they see a body, and starts an RDM spree.
5. Next round TWO people have less than 100 karma, and I can kill them too.
6. ???
7.  :trollface:

CONTINUED:
8. Some 9-year old faggot joins, and ALREADY has 10 karma because his karma DOESN'T RESET.
9. Go to step 3
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Deathie on December 12, 2010, 07:16:33 AM
Haha, nope.
People voted crummy because it was a fun map, it had stuff do that on it. People RARELY ever used the traitor tester. It took like 5 people over the mic to convince people to actually be smart and use it.

I concur.

When I used to play, that WAS the reason everyone went to crummy.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Sabb on December 12, 2010, 07:19:10 AM
I concur.

When I used to play, that WAS the reason everyone went to crummy.
Noep... maybe it was your reason for wanting it, but no one ever used the traitor tester.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: ursus on December 12, 2010, 07:19:38 AM
I concur.

When I used to play, that WAS the reason everyone went to crummy.

But people are fucking retarded and chose crummy every chance they got. It got old after awhile.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Frank on December 12, 2010, 07:25:32 AM
its gay

end of story

I don't play ttt anymore because of it and fucking RDM'ers
Sadly, same thing for me.
I gave up on TTT

This.



The karma right now DOES suck. If you see someone killing 10 guys, probably with a high karma, and you go and kill him, and he's innocent, you're completely fucked. You just lost your entire fucking karma for doing something you're supposed to do.

But oh! Wait! There's still a chance that if you get to be a traitor, and kill enough people, you may get your karma to raise a bit.

Oh, no... That's complete bullshit. Because there are no fucking rewards for being a hardcore player. You get nothing but 30 karma a round. And nothing for being a good fucking traitor. If you kill a teammate, you lose karma. If you kill someone whom you're completely sure is the traitor, but ends up being innocent, you lose karma too. The only way to fix those wrongly said 'mistakes', because they are not mistakes for that's what you're supposed, is to wait 10 fucking rounds to get your karma up. Then, you must kill or hurt a traitor. And, what if you have the same luck you had before?


BAM! Back to zero. Because TTT is now a fucking lose-lose betting system.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Sabb on December 12, 2010, 07:27:48 AM
Mmkay, so:
People who complain about karma system nid:

A) To l2notbestupid.
B) To l2aim
C) Not play TTT.

/thread
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Frank on December 12, 2010, 07:29:12 AM
Mmkay, so:
People who complain about karma system nid:

A) To l2notbestupid.
B) To l2aim
C) Not play TTT.

/thread
Did you even fucking read my post?
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Sabb on December 12, 2010, 07:31:43 AM
Did you even fucking read my post?
Half of it, then I realized this:
A) To l2notbestupid.
B) To l2aim
C) Not play TTT.
Still takes into effect.

If you see one guy kill 10 people, and you kill him, you don't lose much karma actually, and even if you do, you can: l2notbestupid and gain your karma back. It's not hard :l.
And let's be honestly Frank, we all know that YOU didn't lose your 1000 from killing an rdmer :/.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Shawn on December 12, 2010, 07:32:33 AM
Meh i don't have a problem with the Karma System...

And to the whole thing about "Don't get enough karma for killing I's as a T"

Well thats because T's can just go around and go boom head shot and not worry about killing the wrong person...


Thats why you get lots of karma for killing a T, because it takes skill to find out who a T is... If you guys aren't able to raise your karma in less then 10 rounds its because you suck at TTT and never find the T...
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Frank on December 12, 2010, 07:42:14 AM
Half of it, then I realized this:
A) To l2notbestupid.
B) To l2aim
C) Not play TTT.
Still takes into effect.

If you see one guy kill 10 people, and you kill him, you don't lose much karma actually, and even if you do, you can: l2notbestupid and gain your karma back. It's not hard :l.
And let's be honestly Frank, we all know that YOU didn't lose your 1000 from killing an rdmer :/.


Well, okay, I give up, and I will go full Moo.







i cant argue with fking stupds
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: ursus on December 12, 2010, 07:43:17 AM

Well, okay, I give, and I will go full Moo.







i cant argue with fking stupds

HOLY SHIT WHERE DID FRANK GO YOU GUYS
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Don on December 12, 2010, 08:17:43 AM
I stay with my argument that only people that should stop RDMing have problems with the karma system.
This thread just further proves my point.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Seb on December 12, 2010, 09:31:23 AM
I stay with my argument that only people that should stop RDMing have problems with the karma system.
This thread just further proves my point.

I don't RDM, quite a few of the people I've seen complaining about the new karma system don't RDM.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Don on December 12, 2010, 09:36:04 AM
I don't RDM, quite a few of the people I've seen complaining about the new karma system don't RDM.
Ahahahaha
yeah
Frank isn't an RDMer, nooooo ...
Magic RDMs shitloads when he's bored
DeathFurry is just a noob
and I've never played TTT with you.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Sabb on December 12, 2010, 09:36:08 AM
I don't RDM, quite a few of the people I've seen complaining about the new karma system don't RDM.
Then l2TTT.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: ursus on December 12, 2010, 09:43:11 AM
and I've never played TTT with you.

Seb is probably on TTT just as much if not more than you :I
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Don on December 12, 2010, 09:53:56 AM
Seb is probably on TTT just as much if not more than you :I
How do you know?
You've been banned the past weeks.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Frank on December 12, 2010, 10:22:41 AM
How do you know?
You've been banned the past weeks.
What does it matter how he knows? The thing is that he knows it. You don't have to be super smart to use "View game info".
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: » Magic « on December 12, 2010, 01:25:11 PM
lol you're mad because you have low karma.

I still got 600 karma but too scared to play, there is no point
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Cake Faice on December 12, 2010, 04:40:49 PM
Mmkay, so:
People who complain about karma system nid:

A) To l2notbestupid.
B) To l2aim
C) Not play TTT.

/thread

Then whats the fun if you cant gamble your karma? And aiming is not really a valid reason.

Hell, I gave up on TTT to due to the karma system. RDMing levels are still the same. So the new system was a complete waste of time.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Sabb on December 12, 2010, 04:42:32 PM
Then whats the fun if you cant gamble your karma? And aiming is not really a valid reason.

Hell, I gave up on TTT to due to the karma system. RDMing levels are still the same. So the new system was a complete waste of time.
I mentioned peoples' shit aim because many people use the excuse of accidentally shooting team mates.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Seb on December 12, 2010, 04:47:03 PM
RDMing levels are still the same. So the new system was a complete waste of time.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Frank on December 12, 2010, 04:49:09 PM
I mentioned peoples' shit aim because many people use the excuse of accidentally shooting team mates.
Then you didn't goddamned read my post. I'm talking about a perfect player who makes no mistakes.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Sabb on December 12, 2010, 05:26:53 PM
Then you didn't goddamned read my post. I'm talking about a perfect player who makes no mistakes.
And clearly you didn't read mine, because I quoted and replied to Cake Face not you...
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Frank on December 12, 2010, 05:34:10 PM
And clearly you didn't read mine, because I quoted and replied to Cake Face not you...
You see, the situation is as follows:

I write my opinion.

About half way from reading it all you realise three things, one of which is that most people complain because of their accuracy. A thing which was never even mentioned.

Therefore, you suggest that players with bad accuracy should not play that gamemode.

Cake brings that into the talk, and you reply saying that most people use it as a reason to say the system sucks.


I'm just stating that you thought something up, out of context; whereas I was talking bout a 'perfect' player, you come out of nowhere saying that people should learn to aim.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: ItchyDani3l on December 12, 2010, 05:42:54 PM
banned: reason butthurt

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I leik how threAd isn't locked.

Srs guise? Karma is fine.
Title: Re: I'm tired of this
Post by: Moo on December 12, 2010, 05:43:03 PM
holy shit im also tired of this, SEEING HTESE THREADS, i guarantee you if I see another post on this that isnt well thought out and well presented with legitimate information and without stupid fuckshits posting on these threads, i will ban u from forums