What the fuck is Annoyboard?A place that was made to make topics and posts about community related things anonymously. Instead of that, it was just a place to start shit and shit talk about others. Nothing productive happened there, and Coolz took it down.
A place that was made to make topics and posts about community related things anonymously. Instead of that, it was just a place to start shit and shit talk about others. Nothing productive happened there, and Coolz took it down.Anonymous discussion doesn't sound like a bad idea - I really wouldn't mind it either.
I can see why people don't want /ab/ to come back, but I wouldn't mind it coming back. It's really all up to Coolz.
Anonymous discussion doesn't sound like a bad idea - I really wouldn't mind it either.The problem is that some people don't know how to control themselves and/or like to start drama. They end up making malicious threads about a subject that has nothing to do with the community whatsoever. Some would even samefag just so get reactions.
The problem is that some people don't know how to control themselves and/or like to start drama. They end up making malicious threads about a subject that has nothing to do with the community whatsoever. Some would even samefag just so get reactions.
Instead of that, it was just a place to start shit and shit talk about others.Actually, within all of that shit posting, we were all able to actually get our bottled up rage out against members without ruining relationships (unless it was obvious who was posting).
Please tell me the benefit.People can say whats on their mind, talk more freely without having to worry about what's going to happen to them next, they don't need to sugar coat words, it's also a very interesting board, if you guys could forget for a moment about all the spam and stupid shit and think about threads that were actually legitimate you'd see that too.
So far I have only heard how it won't be bad.
I don't see any benefit. In the past when it was up there wasn't any, it was simply used as a means for endless flaming and idiocy. So let's say no one flames or acts like a total douche anymore via AB, what positives are there I'm also curious because I can't see a single one. Back when it was up there wasn't a single intelligent discussion on the board, I'm not sure what makes anyone think it'll be any different now even if restrictions/regulations were put in place to stop minginess.The AB was never all about intelligent discussions, its about having any kind of discussions. Also some or perhaps most of intelligent discussions regarding other members or things that otherwise would get you called an asshole, racist, or would make people hold grudges against you were also only possible there and let's not delude ourselves by saying people wouldn't do this, they do and probably always will. Another point I'd like to address is that there were a lot of discussions in AB that had a lot of offensive words and attitudes but the things that they were saying was legit, a lot of you would probably call those threads idiotic, insulting without actually even looking into their meaning, but simply because of bad attitute aka "muh feelings". I just cannot comprehend why do you guys think that after 2 years people would still get offended over the Internet just as easy, I view this community as a mature, responsible and intelligent one so it's hard for me to imagine that people would still get so horribly offended by AB. Also keep in mind that those shit posters would probably be aware that retarded behavior would result in a permanent removal of the board so they would probably be more cautious, unless thats their intent, to close it, but we could add some new features to that board to prevent it but before we do that we need to decide on whether or not we want to bring AB back.
idk i just feel like some people have some craving to gossip worse than a sewing club when any sort of anonymity is introducedWell then let them have their fun, if they are like that then who cares? Of course the chances are great that at the moment of AB revival there will be much of that but I don't see it lasting for too long.
i dont personally see any positives to that in my opinion if you have something that you cant say with your identity known, then its not worth saying to begin withOf course you can say whatever you want, but if you care about the community and other people which is usually the case, that just isn't going to happen. People will worry about consequences and even if they speak, they will censor themselves as much as possible, so that in itself is a very positive thing that anonymity, it solves that problem.
I think having ananonymous board is an unhealthy thing because it bypasses personal accountability and as such opens the door to a negative environment.If someone can't stand negative environment on the Internet because "muh feelings" then I believe they should work on that, negative environment is inevitable on the Internet. They could also just simply stay away from such places if possible.
I agree with coolz, I see no benefits in it.
People can say whats on their mind, talk more freely without having to worry about what's going to happen to them next, they don't need to sugar coat words, it's also a very interesting board, if you guys could forget for a moment about all the spam and stupid shit and think about threads that were actually legitimate you'd see that too.
Okay that's all fine, but can you name a thread that had any significance in your view?I can't name a specific thread because of how long the board has been closed but I remember some threads about people expressing their opinions on possible admin promotions as well as those who were already promoted.
Most, if not all, of the /ab/ shitposters have left RND since it was shut downHe's definitely right. It's very unlikely that we'll have so many shitposts as last time. Though at first I was against the idea, I wouldn't really mind it now. Maybe we could put it to proper use, that's if it can be set up easily and wouldn't cost anything extra for Coolz. Plus it can be taken down whenever. Might as well try it out.
Well then let them have their fun, if they are like that then who cares? Of course the chances are great that at the moment of AB revival there will be much of that but I don't see it lasting for too long.The people on the opposing side, clearly.
Of course you can say whatever you want, but if you care about the community and other people which is usually the case, that just isn't going to happen. People will worry about consequences and even if they speak, they will censor themselves as much as possible, so that in itself is a very positive thing that anonymity, it solves that problem.My opinion on this is based off of what actually happened, and how likely I see it reoccurring. I don't see where your opinion is coming from, however.
If someone can't stand negative environment on the Internet because "muh feelings" then I believe they should work on that, negative environment is inevitable on the Internet. They could also just simply stay away from such places if possible.A negative environment isn't inevitable when administrated. You need personal accountability for that to happen though.
The people on the opposing side, clearly.I can't understand whats the big deal about having someone on the Internet saying bad things about you especially if they are just false accusations that serve no other purpose but just "fuck around" .
My opinion on this is based off of what actually happened, and how likely I see it reoccurring. I don't see where your opinion is coming from, however.So you're saying that people did not learned anything from it, did not improved in any way and that some are just as careless and others just as easy to offend as they were 2 years ago? Looking back at the past events on AB and assuming that similar things would happen now, I just can't imagine them being nearly as bad now even if the comments would be even worse which is pretty difficult to imagine.
In the past what I said was absolutely the case and no one did worry about consequences because there were none, and won't be any. Unless you mean having the board removed, which I wouldn't consider much of a consequence.
At the same time I don't doubt that a number of those people would frequent the board even though they're not involved in rnd if they heard about it being back. In fact I've heard from at least one person who may not have been the best influence on the board that they would do so even though they're not a part of rnd. But still, if no one pays attention to it then it wouldn't be a problem. I don't think people will be willing to do that once they're being gossiped about though.Well that doesn't sound too good although I wouldn't jump on the conclusion that it would make a significant difference.
A negative environment isn't inevitable when administrated. You need personal accountability for that to happen though.You call the people who got offend by AB victims? They do not deserve to be called victims, I mean this isn't even a significant enough case for them to be refereed as victims. People who get killed in videogames could also be referred as victims then too. I mean look at this: they didn't get hurt, they did not lost anything of value and their reputation was not harmed for the most part as the more of such negative comments were made on the AB the more of credibility the board lost. The only thing that could have gotten hurt was their feelings. By not much. Personally I think this is like a cyber-bullying but to a much lesser extent and the fact that people just can't turn off the damn screen to avoid that, I mean it's ridiculous, not only they annoy themselves but by caring they even encourage those who want to fuck around and just don't care in general.
The people that are negative need to work out their own problems, not the victims (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming).
I've never used the board myself, but I have seen nothing good come of it.
You call the people who got offend by AB victims? They do not deserve to be called victims, I mean this isn't even a significant enough case for them to be refereed as victims. People who get killed in videogames could also be referred as victims then too. I mean look at this: they didn't get hurt, they did not lost anything of value and their reputation was not harmed for the most part as the more of such negative comments were made on the AB the more of credibility the board lost. The only thing that could have gotten hurt was their feelings. By not much. Personally I think this is like a cyber-bullying but to a much lesser extent and the fact that people just can't turn off the damn screen to avoid that, I mean it's ridiculous, not only they annoy themselves but by caring they even encourage those who want to fuck around and just don't care in general.
As regarding to the moderation of the board itself, I'm rather skeptical about that. I do not have the confidence that negative posts that refer to someone or something in particular wouldn't just constantly get removed even if they had legitimate content but then again I think we need to decide if we're going to bring this board back first, then we could talk about things like moderation.
I can't understand whats the big deal about having someone on the Internet saying bad things about you especially if they are just false accusations that serve no other purpose but just "fuck around" .So you're saying that people did not learned anything from it, did not improved in any way and that some are just as careless and others just as easy to offend as they were 2 years ago? Looking back at the past events on AB and assuming that similar things would happen now, I just can't imagine them being nearly as bad now even if the comments would be even worse which is pretty difficult to imagine.You seem to often miss the whole point of what I'm saying. I said that I don't think re-adding ab would be a big deal but I don't think it'd be worth it either, and I've stated that many times. You're exaggerating what I'm saying or refusing to acknowledge it.
Well that doesn't sound too good although I wouldn't jump on the conclusion that it would make a significant difference.
You call the people who got offend by AB victims? They do not deserve to be called victims, I mean this isn't even a significant enough case for them to be refereed as victims. People who get killed in videogames could also be referred as victims then too. I mean look at this: they didn't get hurt, they did not lost anything of value and their reputation was not harmed for the most part as the more of such negative comments were made on the AB the more of credibility the board lost. The only thing that could have gotten hurt was their feelings. By not much. Personally I think this is like a cyber-bullying but to a much lesser extent and the fact that people just can't turn off the damn screen to avoid that, I mean it's ridiculous, not only they annoy themselves but by caring they even encourage those who want to fuck around and just don't care in general.
As regarding to the moderation of the board itself, I'm rather skeptical about that. I do not have the confidence that negative posts that refer to someone or something in particular wouldn't just constantly get removed even if they had legitimate content but then again I think we need to decide if we're going to bring this board back first, then we could talk about things like moderation.
I'm just pointing out flaws in your argument, not refering to any particular group here. To blame people for getting bullied and then taking offense is fundamentally wrong.
It's best not to provide an environment where those things happen.
I'm interested in hearing more posotives instead "people should just deal with it" or similar "ignore-it" type philosophies.
Let's try to keep the discussion without "muh feelings" logic involvedI mean look people this community isn't full of children, people here can handle themselves and we don't even know for sure how it would be like if AB would be brought back all we can do is speculate so saying that it will be just as bad and everything will go exactly the same so we shouldn't bring it back is just wrong.
You seem to often miss the whole point of what I'm saying. I said that I don't think re-adding ab would be a big deal but I don't think it'd be worth it either, and I've stated that many times. You're exaggerating what I'm saying or refusing to acknowledge it.Just as I may fail to understand what you're saying you also seem to not understand the benefits of it as well. Also keep in mind that I'm not the only one supporting it as well.
The whole point of this is that no, it's not the end of the world clearly, but people shouldn't have to deal with it when there's in my opinion (as well as others) absolutely no benefit to it. Especially when it's just more work for coolz to add it back only for it to possibly be removed again.
I would like to know why ab is so important for this thread to have to come up nearly every month though... By now I would have expected people to drop it with all the constant conversations on this just for it to get denied once again. I view ab as a pretty minor addition if that, don't you?Clearly there are people who would like having it back including me and as minor as it may seem, it looks like there is a good amount of people who think that all the negative stuff that could possibly be said there would be a big deal. Personally I don't think it's a huge addition but it's something that we don't have at all on these forums.
I mean look people this community isn't full of children, people here can handle themselves and we don't even know for sure how it would be like if AB would be brought back all we can do is speculate so saying that it will be just as bad and everything will go exactly the same so we shouldn't bring it back is just wrong.It's minor enough in my opinion that these threads just become a nuisance. I almost feel like making a suggestion thread to delete this suggestion thread every time it comes up every month just to be ironic. And you're right, I don't understand the benefits because the only notable one is that it allows better discussion or w.e because people don't have to be careful about what they say, which I strongly disagree with.
Just as I may fail to understand what you're saying you also seem to not understand the benefits of it as well. Also keep in mind that I'm not the only one supporting it as well.
Clearly there are people who would like having it back including me and as minor as it may seem, it looks like there is a good amount of people who think that all the negative stuff that could possibly be said there would be a big deal. Personally I don't think it's a huge addition but it's something that we don't have at all on these forums.
It's minor enough in my opinion that these threads just become a nuisance. I almost feel like making a suggestion thread to delete this suggestion thread every time it comes up every month just to be ironic.I do not think that it would succeed.
And you're right, I don't understand the benefits because the only notable one is that it allows better discussion or w.e because people don't have to be careful about what they say, which I strongly disagree with.You strongly disagree with the benefit of allowing better discussions and letting people act more freely in it?
It's minor enough in my opinion that these threads just become a nuisance. I almost feel like making a suggestion thread to delete this suggestion thread every time it comes up every month just to be ironic. And you're right, I don't understand the benefits because the only notable one is that it allows better discussion or w.e because people don't have to be careful about what they say, which I strongly disagree with.Are there even any active issues between other members at this point?
Are there even any active issues between other members at this point?Nothing like previously of course. But it's not only about how our members would react. Like I said in a previous post which I don't care to repeat.
I do not think that it would succeed.You strongly disagree with the benefit of allowing better discussions and letting people act more freely in it?I'm obviously not doing that as I choose to view and reply to this thread, it was sarcasm.
in my opinion if you have something that you cant say with your identity known, then its not worth saying to begin withPersonally after genuinely considering it, I can only come up with negative motives for anything to strictly only be able to be said anonymously.
Ex. Nudes, phone numbers, addresses, maybe names.
Nudes,
Nudes,
Nudes,
Nudes,
Because I've always wanted to see nudes of Tiger Guy and Sabb.You have to pay for that. I'm not cheap.
Ex. NudesWho the fuck would send nudes to someone on RND?
Who the fuck would send nudes to someone on RND?I am bringing up this example because it is an example of something personal, nudes can extend to intentionally done, to unintentionally done, or black mail. No matter the majority of the gender in a certain community, it should always be aware that exploiting someone because you have personal photos of them is not tolerated here, male or female.
Are you bringing up this example because it's happened before? o.o
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Now do I think people should have to deal or tolerate those types of things, no, which is why I think if we were to put the ab back up, we should put up a general warning that you are viewing the board at your own risk, and that it could contain hurtful or otherwise offensive things that you choose to take to heart or not. The board is not very public and quite frankly very easy to avoid. A lot of members before when shit was happening didn't even know where or what the ab was. [...]
Alright, I must say this has been really interesting to me.the biggest victory (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Oq88pZon4#)
I have played both sides of the argument in order to try and see what people really think.
I started on version 2 yesterday without being set on whether or not I would release it based on what the community thought.
I know there is a pretty even sided debate going on. However, for those that are in disagreement with bringing up the board I would request that you give the idea another try as I have implemented many things that will put some cons to rest.
Some cons are inevitable however I think that this will be a much better platform than the first.
rNd AnonyBoard is a forum where you can speak freely and I highly respect that notion. It is true that there is limited accountability for your actions, however we now have systems in place that will let you guys decide the bad content from the good.
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I am bringing up this example because it is an example of something personal, nudes can extend to intentionally done, to unintentionally done, or black mail. No matter the majority of the gender in a certain community, it should always be aware that exploiting someone because you have personal photos of them is not tolerated here, male or female.Uuuuuh, so our own members have nudes of eachother?
Well that escalated quickly,this has been only up for like,acouple of days,gg proxIt actually hasn't like at all lol. People are going to talk like idiots and add 'tard' on whatever subject they don't like to be snobby. Welcome to ab, I wouldn't expect anything actually annoying to come up until a bit though.
Uuuuuh, so our own members have nudes of eachother?Hideo and Supertoaster have some pretty horrifying things.
It actually hasn't like at all lol. People are going to talk like idiots and add 'tard' on whatever subject they don't like to be snobby. Welcome to ab, I wouldn't expect anything actually annoying to come up until a bit though.I mean about Coolz suddenly adding ab back
I mean about Coolz suddenly adding ab backAh scratch that then.
Hideo and Supertoaster have some pretty horrifying things.Oh supertoaster....
Uuuuuh, so our own members have nudes of eachother?Yeah, we're all impure sluts.
Hideo and Supertoaster have some pretty horrifying things.
Hideo and Supertoaster have some pretty horrifying things.
I d-don't know what you are t-talking about.Nigga please as if I want any of your white asses on my computer, ewSpoiler (click to show/hide)Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Nigga please as if I want any of your white asses on my computer, ewThat pretty much means you only want Unit's and Lazer Blade's ass on your computer.
None of my posts seem to be showing up.
make sure you are logged in and read the posts linked for the process if you haven't alreadyThat seemed to do it.
That pretty much means you only want Unit's and Lazer Blade's ass on your computer.
I sarcastically like how I'm disliked by many.Deal with it.
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Deal with it.Not with that attitude.