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Title: 9/11 School discussion
Post by: Cake Faice on September 11, 2012, 04:30:56 PM
To prevent further derailing, lets move dis shit here.

Did your schools do anything relating to 9/11, like assemblies or videos?
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Post by: aerobro on September 11, 2012, 04:31:20 PM
A moment of silence
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Post by: ○ Μαρία ○ on September 11, 2012, 04:33:24 PM
A moment of silence
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Post by: yoshi on September 11, 2012, 04:36:53 PM
Yep, sadly.

Honestly we get it, 9/11 sucked and it was a dark moment for america.
But fuck we can just move on to something else? It's been 10 years since that happened and people
still talk about it?
Title: Re: 9/11 School discussion
Post by: Deacon on September 11, 2012, 04:39:40 PM
Yep, sadly.

Honestly we get it, 9/11 sucked and it was a dark moment for america.
But fuck we can just move on to something else? It's been 10 years since that happened and people
still talk about it?

Pearl Harbor.
Point being, people will always bring it up.
Title: Re: 9/11 School discussion
Post by: Lavenchie on September 11, 2012, 04:44:18 PM
My school did jack shit for 9/11 besides some kids making a joke about how the twin towers got stoned and tipped over.



My school is stupid.
Title: Re: 9/11 School discussion
Post by: blαh2355 on September 11, 2012, 04:57:38 PM
Announcement over PA with speech and moment of silence. Then everyone was given a sticker of the flag. Personally, and for some reason, I have a phobia of stickers and they disgust me :/
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Post by: Alkaline on September 11, 2012, 04:59:39 PM
Moment of silence, the flag lowered halfway, and a 'spooky' story from a teacher who remembers where they were when it happened.
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Post by: Rocket50 on September 11, 2012, 05:10:18 PM
An event that revolutionized the worlds outlook on internal security and the potential for terrorist attacks, how to stop them, etc. Paving the way for many of the worlds super powers large increase in pro-active and reactive measures. Not to mention it was the largest terrorist attack in the history of the world in terms of death toll and I believe there was 30 or so canadians that contributed to that toll. Also Canada participated, though as a secondary support role, in the "war on terrorism" providing air support, basing, and intel. Regardless of what other ulterior motives you believe fueled the war, the official reasoning was a war on terrorism as a result of 9/11. So feel free not to hang your head in silence for our, or your country men and women, but don't deny the importance of this event and the impact to the global population as a whole and its importance to a student body.

9/11 created a paranoid government that arrested and ruined the lives and career of slightly 'suspicious' American citizens for literally no crime, caused the internet's freedom and anonymity to be sacrificed in the name of national security and allowed unjust racism against middle eastern people by both the government and fellow citizens alike.

The impact was entirely negative and very little was learned or acknowledged as to why 9/11 happened in the first place
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Post by: ○ Μαρία ○ on September 11, 2012, 06:11:44 PM
This guy guest visited our church and told us the story of how, if he hadn't accidentally shot himself the day before when testing guns at the FBI or some shit, he would have been the pilot of the plane that flew into the south tower. Instead a close friend of his went as the pilot, and he was eventually brought in to identify his friends voice. It was really sad to hear.
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Post by: Tiger Guy on September 11, 2012, 06:20:28 PM
so im just going to copy-paste this from the other thread

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While those events were terrible, the amount of innocent Iraqi citizens that were killed in the name of 'American Justice' dwarfs the amount of people killed on 9/11. Is it really worth about half a million innocent civilians to invade and occupy a country for a whole decade? Not to mention because of this war, the US is deeply in debt. Not to mention the big brother-esque Patriot Act. All in the name of freedom and justice.

Honestly, would you rather have 3,000 American deaths, or 100,000-500,000 Iraqi (Civilian) deaths?

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Title: Re: 9/11 School discussion
Post by: Cake Faice on September 11, 2012, 06:23:50 PM
so im just going to copy-paste this from the other thread

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While those events were terrible, the amount of innocent Iraqi citizens that were killed in the name of 'American Justice' dwarfs the amount of people killed on 9/11. Is it really worth about half a million innocent civilians to invade and occupy a country for a whole decade? Not to mention because of this war, the US is deeply in debt. Not to mention the big brother-esque Patriot Act. All in the name of freedom and justice.

Honestly, would you rather have 3,000 American deaths, or 100,000-500,000 Iraqi (Civilian) deaths?

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Blind, brain-washed patriotism is the worse example. Especially in certain cases with troop supporters.
Title: Re: 9/11 School discussion
Post by: Rocket50 on September 11, 2012, 06:24:46 PM

I love you.

My jimmies get rustled whenever someone implies America was the complete innocent in 9/11. It wasn't. It was a provoked attack because of the extended American policies and operations in the middle east.

And before someone assumes that I'm saying that the USA deserved the 3000 deaths of 9/11, they weren't. America deserved it, however the American civilians didn't.
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Post by: Essex on September 12, 2012, 08:56:32 AM
9/11 imo was done by the government.For a couple of reasons.

1.New security act.

2.Population control

3.A reason to attack the middle east.



Now you can say fuck you all you want or say your right. I lost respect on the TTT server of one monorail the cat due to me thinking that america did it.But the american government arent angels


RIP 9/11 victims.
Title: Re: 9/11 School discussion
Post by: Rocket50 on September 12, 2012, 10:33:12 AM
9/11 imo was done by the government.For a couple of reasons.

1.New security act.

2.Population control

3.A reason to attack the middle east.



Now you can say fuck you all you want or say your right. I lost respect on the TTT server of one monorail the cat due to me thinking that america did it.But the american government arent angels


RIP 9/11 victims.

Lol. 9/11 conspiracy
Title: Re: 9/11 School discussion
Post by: Essex on September 12, 2012, 10:54:36 AM
indeed  :book:
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Post by: Sabb on September 12, 2012, 12:26:26 PM
Actually, now I know why we didn't hear anything about it. It's because my teachers are infants and don't want their (fucking large) amount of perks slightly cut. Pay role freeze or w.e and slightly fewer sick days (they had at least 2 a month paid previously, on top of all their usual vacations and w.e). So they're retaliating by all wearing black and not participating in even the most minor extra curricular shit...
Which means they wouldn't even do the announcements.
Whining about a fair change in their pay is apparently a priority over acknowledging 9/11.
Title: Re: 9/11 School discussion
Post by: Rocket50 on September 12, 2012, 03:23:40 PM
Actually, now I know why we didn't hear anything about it. It's because my teachers are infants and don't want their (fucking large) amount of perks slightly cut. Pay role freeze or w.e and slightly fewer sick days (they had at least 2 a month paid previously, on top of all their usual vacations and w.e). So they're retaliating by all wearing black and not participating in even the most minor extra curricular shit...
Which means they wouldn't even do the announcements.
Whining about a fair change in their pay is apparently a priority over acknowledging 9/11.

We had job action like that last year, no extra-curricular, no field trips, no monitoring hallways, no report cards, all that.

The provincial guys won though, and the teachers backed down. But, aren't announcements done by the students?
Title: Re: 9/11 School discussion
Post by: Supertoaster on September 12, 2012, 03:31:48 PM
so rocket you're pretty much saying america deserved 9/11?
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Post by: Rocket50 on September 12, 2012, 03:53:23 PM
so rocket you're pretty much saying america deserved 9/11?

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Post by: ·UηİŦ·· on September 12, 2012, 04:28:41 PM
I heard that some famous lady was talking about her boobs in 1989 on the radio when the moment of silence occured.

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And
Honestly, would you rather have 3,000 American deaths, or 100,000-500,000 Iraqi (Civilian) deaths?

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I'd rather have none.

And everyone should know by now that regardless of conspiracy, Politics is already dirty and festering with unjust.

Watergate Scandal, baby. And all the routine shit you don't know about in the Middle East. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/rebeccaelliott/horror-hospital-the-most-shocking-photos-and-test) (Warning: Graphic, lots of images, may slow browser if you have 700+ tabs open already)

I just don't want to live in 1984 when I turn 40. I don't want to end up like poor Winston... But it looks like INGSOC is already well underway if we're more obsessed about boobs and '**NATIONALISM**~!' than the dead. We've already begun 'mainstream' shortening words with YOLO and SWAG-ugh. What horrible day do we collectively burn books and hang 'terrorists' in the streets on live television?

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Post by: Sabb on September 12, 2012, 05:03:04 PM
We had job action like that last year, no extra-curricular, no field trips, no monitoring hallways, no report cards, all that.

The provincial guys won though, and the teachers backed down. But, aren't announcements done by the students?
Na, school just started and they haven't gotten everyone ready for it or w.e.
Actually now that I think of it, announcements are rarely held right now...
Or maybe I just don't pay attention.
Title: Re: 9/11 School discussion
Post by: Frank on September 12, 2012, 05:41:07 PM
We didn't have class. Of course, due to it being Teachers' Day, teachers gave a short speech on teaching and how some teachers are treated badly.
Title: Re: 9/11 School discussion
Post by: Cake Faice on September 12, 2012, 06:04:44 PM
I heard that some famous lady was talking about her boobs in 1989 on the radio when the moment of silence occured.

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(http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/0/2/0/3/0/6/3/2010-47436496228.jpeg)
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Post by: Frank on September 12, 2012, 07:21:16 PM
(http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/0/2/0/3/0/6/3/2010-47436496228.jpeg)
You do know that with a world without religion there wouldn't be USA either, right?
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Post by: cogsandspigots on September 12, 2012, 07:33:35 PM
(http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/0/2/0/3/0/6/3/2010-47436496228.jpeg)

Sir, 9/11 happened because some crazy people hated America.
They would have done the same wether they were Muslim or not.
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Post by: Rocket50 on September 12, 2012, 07:35:47 PM
Sir, 9/11 happened because some crazy people hated America.
They would have done the same wether they were Muslim or not.

You forgot to mention the belief that killing themselves in the name of their religion would grant them to exist in heaven with virgins for eternity

You do know that with a world without religion there wouldn't be USA either, right?

Elaborate
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Post by: cogsandspigots on September 12, 2012, 07:46:58 PM
Except, they believed that killing themselves in the name of their religion would get them in to heaven with virgins for eternity

Elaborate
That is radicalism. Moderation in everything is key. They applied to Islam, which promotes peace and toleration of others (nice going Taliban). That is what happens in most cases of "religion causing wars and evils". It is people twisting scripture just so that it fits their own sick goals. The Crusades? The kings wanted that land. The Holocaust? Hitler needed an easy scapegoat. 9/11? Al Queda needed a good excuse to keep the people of their country from turning against them.




As for Frank's point, he is right. The Puritain ideals of hard work and unity would help the colonies to unite against the British during the 1700s. Without these ideals, we would likely still be a set of British colonies.
Title: Re: 9/11 School discussion
Post by: Rocket50 on September 12, 2012, 07:54:53 PM
That is radicalism. Moderation in everything is key. They applied to Islam, which promotes peace and toleration of others (nice going Taliban). That is what happens in most cases of "religion causing wars and evils". It is people twisting scripture just so that it fits their own sick goals. The Crusades? The kings wanted that land. The Holocaust? Hitler needed an easy scapegoat. 9/11? Al Queda needed a good excuse to keep the people of their country from turning against them.

You completely ignored the point. If religion did not exist, Al Queda would never have been able to give the radicals an incentive to go and bomb the WTC because frankly, the only reason why they would go and kill themselves was because of the promise that it was what god wanted and it would grant them eternity in heaven.

With virgins. It would be very hard to find someone who hated America enough to go and end their existence on the side of a skyscraper.


As for Frank's point, he is right. The Puritain ideals of hard work and unity would help the colonies to unite against the British during the 1700s. Without these ideals, we would likely still be a set of British colonies.

It doesn't take religion to understand the value of hard work and unity. And it wasn't religion that made the colonies discontent with Britain, it was their lack of support. Canada never followed the American route to autonomy from Britian, and we essentially accomplished the same goals without the war.
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Post by: Prox on September 13, 2012, 05:07:14 AM
My school didn't care.
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Post by: Frank on September 13, 2012, 09:38:44 AM
You completely ignored the point. If religion did not exist, Al Queda would never have been able to give the radicals an incentive to go and bomb the WTC because frankly, the only reason why they would go and kill themselves was because of the promise that it was what god wanted and it would grant them eternity in heaven.

With virgins. It would be very hard to find someone who hated America enough to go and end their existence on the side of a skyscraper.


It doesn't take religion to understand the value of hard work and unity. And it wasn't religion that made the colonies discontent with Britain, it was their lack of support. Canada never followed the American route to autonomy from Britian, and we essentially accomplished the same goals without the war.
I was going to said what cogs said.

And you're still implying that it wasn't an inside job.

On a related sidenote, Christians, Muslims, Mormons, and every other religion alike comes from Judaism. So without Judasim...