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Title: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 08:05:39 AM
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NOTE: This thread contains content that was almost in another thread, but moved here as it's more of a guide than a suggestion. This is a WIP and info regarding these would be great.


UPDATE: I don't have the stats for the custom weapons, someone is asking coolz for that.

I recently did a test with some weapons and got the folowing:
Mosin Nagant = 45   M4 = 22   |   SMG = 10   MP5 = 6   |   FAMAS = 10   M14 = ##   AK47 = ##

The number is how much damage they deal to another player at close range (when shot in the balls). I preformed this test when I dealt full damage so these are correct.


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Name [T weapon/Det weapon]
Deals ## [headshot multiplier] damage. ## rounds, ## reserve. (number of clips/magazines)
Delay is #, recoil is #. Auto/not auto, ammo type.
Unique feature!




Quote
M4
Deals 22 damage. 20 rounds, 20 reserve. (2)
Delay is #, recoil is #. Semiautomatic, uses sniper ammo.
Custom weapon!

Mosin Nagant    [Headshots are instant kills]
Deals 45 damage. 5 rounds, 20 reserve. (5)
Delay is #, recoil is #. Semiautomatic, uses sniper ammo.
Custom weapon! Hands are of the Half-Life HEV suit.




Quote
MAC-10
Deals 15 damage. 30 rounds, 60 reserve. (3)
Delay is 0.065, recoil is 1.1. Automatic, uses SMG ammo.

MP5
Deals 6 damage. 25 rounds, 60 reserve. (3.4)
Delay is #, recoil is #. Automatic, uses SMG ammo.     /Accuracy is better than any other SMG/
Custom weapon!

UMP 45 [DETECTIVE WEAPON]
Deals 7 damage. 30 rounds, 60 reserve. (3)
Delay is 0.1, recoil is 1.2. Automatic, uses SMG ammo.
Disorients target.




Quote
FAMAS
Deals 10 damage. 30 rounds, 60 reserve. (3)
Delay is #, recoil is #. Automatic, uses pistol ammo.
Custom weapon!

M16
Deals 23 damage. 20 rounds, 60 reserve. (4)
Delay is 0.19, recoil is 1.6. Automatic, uses pistol ammo.

AK47
Deals ## damage. 35 rounds, 20 reserve. (1.5714)
Delay is #, recoil is #. Automatic, uses sniper ammo.
Custom weapon!




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Scout    [Headshots are instant kills]
Deals 50 damage. 10 rounds, 20 reserve. (3)
Delay is 1.5, recoil is 7. Semiautomatic, uses sniper ammo.

Barret    [Headshots are instant kills]
Deals ## damage. 4 rounds, 20 reserve. (6)
Delay is #, recoil is #. Semiautomatic, uses sniper ammo.
Custom weapon! Must crouch to fire.




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Pistol
Deals 25 damage. 20 rounds, 60 reserve. (4)
Delay is 0.38, recoil is 1.5.  Semiautomatic, uses pistol ammo.

Glock
Deals 10 damage. 20 rounds, 60 reserve. (4)
Delay is 0.1, recoil is 0.9. Automatic, uses pistol ammo.

Deagle    [Headshots are instant kills]
Deals 37 damage. 8 rounds, 36 reserve. (5.5)
Delay is 0.6, recoil is 6. Semiautomatic, uses Deagle ammo.

Silenced Pistol [TRATIOR WEAPON]
Deals 28 damage. 20 rounds, 60/80 reserve. (4/5)
Delay is 0.38, recoil is 1.35. Semiautomatic, uses pistol ammo.
Quieter gunshot and silent death.

Flare Gun [TRATIOR WEAPON]
Deals 7 damage. 4 rounds, 0 reserve. (1)
Delay is 1.0, recoil is 4. Semiautomatic, no ammo available.
Lights players and flamable props on fire.




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Shotgun
Deals 11 damage. 8 rounds, 24 reserve. (4)
Delay is 0.8, recoil is 7. Automatic, uses shotgun ammo.
The closer you are the more damage you deal.

M3
Deals ## damage. 6 rounds, 24 reserve. (5)
Delay is #, recoil is #. Semiautomatic, uses shotgun ammo.
Custom weapon! The closer you are the more damage you deal.




H.U.G.E-249
Deals 11 damage. 150 rounds, 0 reserve. (1)
Delay is 0.06, recoil is 1.9. Automatic, no ammo available.



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Smoke Grenade
Makes a sphere of smoke appear, surrounding the grenade.

Discombobulator
Pushes players and props around.
Timer is 5.

Incendiary Grenade
Creates an explosion and fire will appear within a short radius.
Timer is 5.



NOTE: This may not be completed for quite some time, though you can get the stats of every non-custom weapon.

I also have made an image in paint to help prevent people for killing players over the inability to spell words backwards or read the description.

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http://i.imgur.com/hSSxT.png (http://i.imgur.com/hSSxT.png)
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/918983253975882500/7D2981003263C0F7525082110BFE3A44B36DA2A3/ (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/918983253975882500/7D2981003263C0F7525082110BFE3A44B36DA2A3/)
Title: Re: Weapon stat/comparison
Post by: Sabb on July 05, 2012, 08:25:01 AM
Quote from: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 08:05:39 AM
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NOTE: This thread contains content that was almost in another thread, but moved here as it's more of a guide than a suggestion. I'm going to be editing this and will be testing weapons in the future.

I recently did a test with some weapons and got the folowing:
Moisten Nagant = 45   M4 = 22   |   SMG = 10   MP5 = 6   |   FAMAS = 10   M14 = ##   AK47 = ##

The number is how much damage they deal to another player at close range (when shot in the balls). I preformed this test when I dealt full damage so these are correct.

 
(Can someone get me the proper spelling of the moist nagant?)
I'm sorry but... moisten nagant... really?
Lmao I don't get how people have such a hard time remembering MOSIN nagant.
Title: Re: Weapon stat/comparison
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 08:35:01 AM
Quote from: Sabb on July 05, 2012, 08:25:01 AM
I'm sorry but... moisten nagant... really?
Lmao I don't get how people have such a hard time remembering MOSIN nagant.

Thank you, the proper spelling atlast!

EDIT: The spell check thinks "Mosin Nagant" is misspelled.

EDIT2: It also thinks "Deagle" and "Glock" are misspelled, so nevermind.
Title: Re: Weapon stat/comparison
Post by: blαh2355 on July 05, 2012, 09:14:32 AM
It's an M16 not M4 and the hands are CSS arms if I'm not mistaken unless you're using custom stuff. It's also fully-auto. Each magazine has 20 rounds with 60 rounds reserve.

AK-47 has 35 rounds not 45

SMG is called MAC-10

Also keep in mind this is implying that your karma is not reduced.

Mosin Nagant has 5 rounds in a clip and 20 reserve.

Deagle has 8 rounds in a magazine with 36 reserve.

Also, where are you shooting when you get the damage results?
Title: Re: Weapon stat/comparison
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 09:34:37 AM
Quote from: blah2355 on July 05, 2012, 09:14:32 AM
It's an M16 not M4 and the hands are CSS arms if I'm not mistaken unless you're using custom stuff. It's also fully-auto. Each magazine has 20 rounds with 60 rounds reserve.

AK-47 has 35 rounds not 45

SMG is called MAC-10

Also keep in mind this is implying that your karma is not reduced.

Mosin Nagant has 5 rounds in a clip and 20 reserve.

Deagle has 8 rounds in a magazine with 36 reserve.

Also, where are you shooting when you get the damage results?

Quote from: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 08:05:39 AM
The number is how much damage they deal to another player at close range (when shot in the balls). I preformed this test when I dealt full damage so these are correct.

So I got my karma high enough to deal full damage, got two people to help me, informed them of exactly what I was going to do, get their consent, asked them if they had full health, and then I shot them once in the balls after they said yes. I then got how much health they had after I hit them.
Title: Re: Weapon stat/comparison
Post by: Deacon on July 05, 2012, 10:44:47 AM
I used to have all the numbers....somewhere.........

lost them
Title: Re: Weapon stat/comparison
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 11:10:26 AM
Quote from: Deacon on July 05, 2012, 10:44:47 AM
I used to have all the numbers....somewhere.........

lost them
   

Well this thread will fix that. Idealy I'm going to have those numbers too, then Don can put it on his list for all to see. 

In order to help me with that, can anyone inform me about the folowing:

1. What percentage of damage does the Detective's/Traitor's bodyarmor block?

2. Does the body armor do anything against headshots?

3. What is the headshot multiplier?
Title: Re: Weapon stat/comparison
Post by: Deacon on July 05, 2012, 11:20:03 AM
Quote from: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 11:10:26 AM
then Don can put it on his list for all to see.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5xY8WmuUEWA/Ti4vQ375EdI/AAAAAAAAAqE/Fv3_J2R49wU/s1600/crying+like+a+bitch.jpg)
Title: Re: Weapon stat/comparison
Post by: Loke on July 05, 2012, 11:59:12 AM
Quote from: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 11:10:26 AM
   

, then Don can put it on his list for all to see. 

Erm.. Don left rNd......
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: blαh2355 on July 05, 2012, 03:36:10 PM
1. Armor blocks 30% (says in its description)

2. Idk

3. Explain please.
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 06:50:47 PM
Quote from: blah2355 on July 05, 2012, 03:36:10 PM
1. Armor blocks 30% (says in its description)

2. Idk

3. Explain please.

1. Thank you

3. When I shoot someone in the head is the shot's damage multiplied or does it have a set damage for that gun?


2. Does the body armor do anything against headshots? < Still a question, does anyone have an awnser?
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Deacon on July 05, 2012, 07:01:30 PM
Certain weapons have headshot multipliers. For example the rifle does 50 with a multipler of 4, up to 200
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 08:04:30 PM
Quote from: Deacon on July 05, 2012, 07:01:30 PM
Certain weapons have headshot multipliers. For example the rifle does 50 with a multipler of 4, up to 200


So each weapon has their own unique headshot multiplier... Great. I guess I won't be adding headshot damage to this thread anytime soon.
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: memo3300 on July 05, 2012, 08:13:31 PM
Quote from: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 08:05:39 AM
[Like this? Give me -1s instead. Yes, I am completely serious.

Ok... anyways want me to look for that guide? i'm pretty sure it doesn't take more than 5 minutes to look for it...

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http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,904.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,904.0.html)

well everything related to the guns in that thread was... asdf
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 08:40:48 PM
Quote from: memo3300 on July 05, 2012, 08:13:31 PM
Ok... anyways want me to look for that guide? i'm pretty sure it doesn't take more than 5 minutes to look for it...

-

http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,904.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,904.0.html)

well everything related to the guns in that thread was... asdf

Thanks, I managed to get some use out of it even if it was whatever you called it.


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Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Deacon on July 05, 2012, 08:46:46 PM
Quote from: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 08:40:48 PM
(Can "Deacon" and "Me Likes Dis! :D" please -1 my post instead of +1ing it? Thanks in advance.)


No. You're not the first to reach -___, you won't be the last to try.
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 08:57:10 PM
Quote from: Deacon on July 05, 2012, 08:46:46 PM

No. You're not the first to reach -___, you won't be the last to try.

That's not my goal and has never been my goal. My goal is to have as low as respect as possible to spite the very system and to remind people that how high someone's respect is has nothing to do with the quality of the post.
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Deacon on July 05, 2012, 09:24:26 PM
Quote from: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 08:57:10 PM
That's not my goal and has never been my goal. My goal is to have as low as respect as possible to spite the very system and to remind people that how high someone's respect is has nothing to do with the quality of the post.

face.
mine.


Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: ursus on July 05, 2012, 10:09:51 PM
Quote from: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 08:57:10 PM
That's not my goal and has never been my goal. My goal is to have as low as respect as possible to spite the very system and to remind people that how high someone's respect is has nothing to do with the quality of the post.

Plenty of people have asked for negative respect before. You're not spiting the system for being "unfair." You aren't spiting it for being inaccurate or for misrepresenting you as a person.

I'm granting myself the luxury of assuming what your intentions are because they're always the same. You're asking for negative respect because if you ask for it and get it (Which you will), you can say to others that you have your negative respect because you requested it. Here's a spoiler: You don't need to ask. Positive respect is gained by making helpful or otherwise outstanding posts. Negative respect is earned by being immature, juvenile, or insensitive. You feel like having it under different circumstances will improve your reputation, but it won't. The major flaw in your ad-hoc reasoning is that it's been attempted and failed many times before.

Believe me, this is no insult to you. I'm saying this for future reference. In the future, try to refrain from acting like a beacon of justice in a totalitarian regime of respect points. It's a forum. We discuss games and other forms of media.
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 06, 2012, 07:01:56 AM
Quote from: ursus on July 05, 2012, 10:09:51 PM
Plenty of people have asked for negative respect before. You're not spiting the system for being "unfair." You aren't spiting it for being inaccurate or for misrepresenting you as a person.

I'm granting myself the luxury of assuming what your intentions are because they're always the same. You're asking for negative respect because if you ask for it and get it (Which you will), you can say to others that you have your negative respect because you requested it. Here's a spoiler: You don't need to ask. Positive respect is gained by making helpful or otherwise outstanding posts. Negative respect is earned by being immature, juvenile, or insensitive. You feel like having it under different circumstances will improve your reputation, but it won't. The major flaw in your ad-hoc reasoning is that it's been attempted and failed many times before.

Believe me, this is no insult to you. I'm saying this for future reference. In the future, try to refrain from acting like a beacon of justice in a totalitarian regime of respect points. It's a forum. We discuss games and other forms of media.

I see your point and for the most part you're right. Though I wouldn't say I asked for it, I'd tell them they shouldn't care. (How ironic.) /offtopic

In order to get the headshot damage I think I might be able to just shoot people in the face as Traitor and record the damage logs. I'd have to preform a few tests as well, about distance having an effect on damage dealt and so forth... Though I'm unsure if there is a better way. I have never actually viewed damage logs in-game through the console before but if memory serves me well this strategy should work.
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: memo3300 on July 06, 2012, 07:47:17 AM
knife used to deal 2000 damage

i only remember that lol



also, i'm pretty sure there is somewhere in your gmod files all that information
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Alkaline on July 06, 2012, 08:09:40 AM
Quote from: memo3300 on July 06, 2012, 07:47:17 AM
knife used to deal 2000 damage

i only remember that lol



also, i'm pretty sure there is somewhere in your gmod files all that information
He could just sift through the .gcf for garrysmod and look at the exact damages done by guns in the terrortown folder.
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Deacon on July 06, 2012, 01:16:41 PM
Quote from: memo3300 on July 06, 2012, 07:47:17 AM
knife used to deal 2000 damage

i only remember that lol



also, i'm pretty sure there is somewhere in your gmod files all that information

/gamemodes/<ttt>/entities/weapons/<weapon>/<...shared?>.lua
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 07, 2012, 02:57:56 PM
Quote from: Deacon on July 06, 2012, 01:16:41 PM
/gamemodes/<ttt>/entities/weapons/<weapon>/<...shared?>.lua

I don't think that that is correct. All I see there is that elevator mod I downloaded.
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Deacon on July 07, 2012, 04:45:52 PM
In the garrys mod .gcf

use a program like gcfscape
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 07, 2012, 04:46:29 PM
Quote from: Deacon on July 07, 2012, 04:45:52 PM
In the garrys mod .gcf

use a program like gcfscape

What? I have no idea what both of those are.
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Deacon on July 07, 2012, 04:48:51 PM
Then you won't find weapon stats
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 07, 2012, 05:21:43 PM
Quote from: Deacon on July 07, 2012, 04:48:51 PM
Then you won't find weapon stats


Could you at least tell me where I can find a safe version of "gcfscape" then?
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: blαh2355 on July 07, 2012, 06:41:34 PM
I extracted the folder with the weapons for you, just download it.

http://www.mediafire.com/?9h9tfqq4a72btwc (http://www.mediafire.com/?9h9tfqq4a72btwc)

Just open each weapon folder and open those files with notepad and read through the code. Tells all the weapon stats you want.
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 07, 2012, 07:31:20 PM
Quote from: blah2355 on July 07, 2012, 06:41:34 PM
I extracted the folder with the weapons for you, just download it.

http://www.mediafire.com/?9h9tfqq4a72btwc (http://www.mediafire.com/?9h9tfqq4a72btwc)

Just open each weapon folder and open those files with notepad and read through the code. Tells all the weapon stats you want.


:D

Perfect! But it doesn't give me info for all of the weapons.
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: blαh2355 on July 07, 2012, 08:33:17 PM
Quote from: Eion Kilant 739 on July 07, 2012, 07:31:20 PM


:D

Perfect! But it doesn't give me info for all of the weapons.
For instance?
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Deacon on July 07, 2012, 11:30:04 PM
It won't be there for the custom weapons
I lost the shared.lua for all the ones I did when I transferred files from my laptop to this pc, so you may never see what they are
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 09, 2012, 07:54:53 AM
Quote from: Deacon on July 07, 2012, 11:30:04 PM
It won't be there for the custom weapons
I lost the shared.lua for all the ones I did when I transferred files from my laptop to this pc, so you may never see what they are


Does that mean it will be impossible to get stats for the custom weapons? Would anyone else have those files?
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Deacon on July 09, 2012, 10:34:27 AM
Quote from: Eion Kilant 739 on July 09, 2012, 07:54:53 AM


Does that mean it will be impossible to get stats for the custom weapons? Would anyone else have those files.

coolz.

i'll ask him later cause i've gotta touch up a few things anyway.
Title: Re: Weapon stats/comparison
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 09, 2012, 12:18:15 PM
Quote from: Deacon on July 09, 2012, 10:34:27 AM
coolz.

i'll ask him later cause i've gotta touch up a few things anyway.

Thanks, I really appreciate it.