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Title: Lets try this again...
Post by: Sabb on May 29, 2012, 07:36:17 PM
...without people acting like retards...
http://ab.randomgs.com/index.php?topic=1553 (http://ab.randomgs.com/index.php?topic=1553)
Suggest possible admin candidates. Explain why if you want, don't if you don't.
No it doesn't mean they'll be promoted. No it doesn't mean people are even being promoted atm.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Lavenchie on May 29, 2012, 08:49:01 PM
Juan is a good candidate, He's generally friendly with the community,  stays out of trouble most of the time, abides the rules, and is really active.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Deacon on May 29, 2012, 08:56:02 PM
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@203037

True, yet at the same time which would you prefer? Because I see this working one of 2 ways;

Moo-style bans: 1 month for small things unless issues are resolved

Regular punishment: which for non-regular players doesn't do a thing.


Lets take this to the thread though, eh?

Clearly forgot my own argument here.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on May 29, 2012, 09:12:19 PM
I honestly think, if prox were to be the one promoted that the second person should be deacon,of course with his approval, but even if he doesn't want to become one now, I think he would be the perfect guy for the job when his personal stress is gone.

of course I'm always here if you need somone else to be admin and it's summer so I will play practically 24/7 :trollface: 
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: aerobro on May 29, 2012, 09:22:31 PM
deacon.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Mr. Franklin on May 29, 2012, 09:22:52 PM
Well, -snip-
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: ursus on May 29, 2012, 09:36:18 PM
Are we supposed to say which ones we disagree with, too?

Because if we aren't, I don't want to be an asshole needlessly.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on May 29, 2012, 09:38:45 PM
Are we supposed to say which ones we disagree with, too?

Because if we aren't, I don't want to be an asshole needlessly.

I'm sure you could because if it's for such a high rank, everyone's inputs should be made..
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Deacon on May 29, 2012, 09:41:16 PM
Are we supposed to say which ones we disagree with, too?

Because if we aren't, I don't want to be an asshole needlessly.

we're all assholes

speak your mind
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Ἆxule on May 29, 2012, 10:01:32 PM
Deacon, in my opinion, is the best candidate for admin that I know.

1. He isn't quick to judge, meaning he gives the suspect a chance to give his reasoning.
2. He doesn't take bullshit
3. Very reasonable dude
4. Responsible and trustworthy

Need I say more
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Mr. Franklin on May 29, 2012, 10:30:29 PM
 I see an admin candidate is someone who engages himself in the community, and takes action to help others when needed.

 From my point of view, deacon is not a good candidate for various reasons:
 -he is shy and not very engaging towards the community.

 -his actions to help other people have sparked arguments before and caused himself alot of stress.

 I just think he cannot handle the stress of being an administrator.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Ἆxule on May 29, 2012, 10:34:01 PM
I just think he cannot handle the stress of being an administrator.

I'm sure Deacon would let us know whether or not he could handle the stress of being Admin. I mean, he did for VIP.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Mr. Franklin on May 29, 2012, 10:36:19 PM
I'm sure Deacon would let us know whether or not he could handle the stress of being Admin. I mean, he did for VIP.

Well, he told us numerous times that he had alot of stress in his life, and the stress of being a VIP was painful for a time being. I don't know about now though.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Samo on May 29, 2012, 10:39:58 PM
I'm happy as long as this person doesn't screw around. And bans the right person for a proper reason. That is all I want.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Ἆxule on May 29, 2012, 10:40:49 PM
Well, he told us numerous times that he had alot of stress in his life, and the stress of being a VIP was painful for a time being. I don't know about now though.

Quote from: Deacon
The only thing stopping me from reapplying is my ungodly amount of stress in my personal life, which actually might be over soon. If you want specifics PM me, otherwise...keep me in mind.

I trust Deacon's choice of whether he thinks he's ready or not
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Sabb on May 30, 2012, 09:44:52 AM
Yes, you can disagree with others in this thread. Just a basic discussion I guess. So for Deacon, I 100% agree with Franklin.
No offense to Deacon, but it's very clear that there were issues when he was VIP, and he admitted to them before he really caused any harm, but I haven't seen anything to suggest that the problems have changed. Rather the opposite.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Deacon on May 30, 2012, 02:00:21 PM
i really wasn't aware i caused any problems... would you guys mind pointing those things out?
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Sabb on May 30, 2012, 03:14:42 PM
i really wasn't aware i caused any problems... would you guys mind pointing those things out?
In all honesty I don't remember the specific issues but I know you were affected far too much by players and such or w.e.
I have no problem with you being promoted but I would want to see change first, personally.
Also not saying it as a bad thing or anything, just my view, hope you don't take it personally.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: ursus on May 30, 2012, 03:21:03 PM
The only concern I have with Deacon being admin is that he's easily provoked/offended.

I'm plenty sure that he's mature enough to overcome that with minimal effort, though.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: blαh2355 on May 30, 2012, 04:21:56 PM
Juan is a good candidate, He's generally friendly with the community,  stays out of trouble most of the time, abides the rules, and is really active.
I dunno. I got a complaint from someone (I won't name) that he was prop pushing people. Though there is no evidence, I would take that into consideration.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Mr. Franklin on May 30, 2012, 05:05:21 PM
is this a talk about deacon topic?
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: ursus on May 30, 2012, 05:06:11 PM
is this a talk about deacon topic?

is this an ask sarcastic questions topic?
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Mr. Franklin on May 30, 2012, 05:09:52 PM
is this an ask sarcastic questions topic?

apparently it is.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: ○ Μαρία ○ on May 30, 2012, 05:38:21 PM
Uh, referring to the ab topic, even if it will cause shitstorming, I appreciate you considering me.

Though, I really don't believe I am admin material.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Tiger Guy on May 30, 2012, 06:45:55 PM
Uh, referring to the ab topic, even if it will cause shitstorming, I appreciate you considering me.

Though, I really don't believe I am admin material.
From my response on the /ab/ thread.

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Even though shes nice and all, I don't think she's the best person for admin, even though she's probably going to be the next one anyway.

I don't have a opinion on Prox yet, so I can't say anything about it.

I think Deacon would be a good candidate, even if he has those issues.

Franklin would be a good admin, but everyone seems to disrespect him for some reason.

Juan would be alright, he's very mature for his age.

Also, I would like you guys to consider me too, helps my ego helps me see what I can improve on with my attitude and all that.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on May 30, 2012, 06:59:48 PM
I dunno. I got a complaint from someone (I won't name) that he was prop pushing people. Though there is no evidence, I would take that into consideration.

Lol -snip- he really had to go and whine about it to everyone? He was afk. I kept saying his name like 20 times each round. When I decide to push him off (INSTEAD OF KICKING HIM OFF THE SERVER) he comes back and is like "your a shitty VIP I cant believe you got chosen and I didn't."

Enough about it though, if you want to talk about it more, PM me I don't want to derail this thread....
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Tiger Guy on May 30, 2012, 07:39:54 PM
I would also like to nominate Unit.

Not only he is fair, responsible, smart, and reasonable; he's black.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Shockah on May 30, 2012, 07:49:39 PM
I would also like to nominate Unit.

Not only he is fair, responsible, smart, and reasonable; he's black.

Unit is too afraid to act, that's my big worry there. Juan also doesn't act often enough, I like both Franklin and Deacon personally, but Franklins sarcastic attitude can make him seem a little more than blunt at times and Deacons aforementioned "stress" may not be over yet.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on May 30, 2012, 07:59:02 PM
Unit is too afraid to act, that's my big worry there. Juan also doesn't act often enough, I like both Franklin and Deacon personally, but Franklins sarcastic attitude can make him seem a little more than blunt at times and Deacons aforementioned "stress" may not be over yet.

Like I said the reason I don't automatically jump to the conclusion of "YOU DID SOMETHING BAD BAN." is because I ask why they did it. And check the logs (if it was rdm. Which is why I always ask for that command lol) and if it was minor like a one kill rdm I let it slide if both parties are ok with it. But after that offense I then kick. If they do it often, that's when I report.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Tezuni on May 31, 2012, 02:52:47 AM
I think Deacon, Axule, Shockah, and TigerGuy are the best candidates.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Shockah on May 31, 2012, 03:00:35 AM
I think Deacon, Axule, Shockah, and TigerGuy are the best candidates.

I don't think I've been VIP long enough to be a candidate for admin players haven't gotten a good enough feel for what I act like with the authority heck, many players don't even know I'm VIP. Of course I wouldn't turn down the position if offered I'm just not certain if any other person but yourself thinks I'm anywhere near ready yet. Tiger Guy from my experience has a lot of issues with personal bias in his decisions as VIP so I don't think he should be given the power to extend the bans/kicks for even longer.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Tiger Guy on May 31, 2012, 04:36:20 AM
I really don't have 'issues' with it, unless if you're talking about the Crit Nick incident, which then I agree that I should've votebanned him sooner.

As bias goes, I really don't have a bias against anyone that is below me or with me rank wise. For the people I do have a bias against, they're above me, so I could'nt ban him for a bullshit reason if I became an admin. I really wouldn't want to deal with a situation which it seemed that I do or if I had a bias against that person.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: ursus on June 01, 2012, 08:51:34 AM
I say we pick a few candidates, regardless of whether or not everyone's unanimous, and hand them temp admin for awhile. See how they do, and once that time is up the serious vote can take place.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Sabb on June 01, 2012, 08:55:11 AM
I say we pick a few candidates, regardless of whether or not everyone's unanimous, and hand them temp admin for awhile. See how they do, and once that time is up the serious vote can take place.
I would agree with this... but they should only be getting temp admin if either me, Jman, or coolz agree with them being promoted. I would say just if any admin agreed with them being promoted but... really, me and Jman are basically the only active admins atm. So I think that would probably be more fair. But either way, all 3 of us have fairly different views any ways so I think that should actually work out fairly well.
But obviously, this is all up to coolz so we'll need to see what he says.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Ἆxule on June 01, 2012, 10:12:28 AM
I think Deacon, Axule, Shockah, and TigerGuy are the best candidates.

Thank you for the suggestion, but I wouldn' be able to be an admin due to lack of time soon to come. I'm going to mainland, United States, to work for a month. When I get back, school is basically already starting for people in Hawai'i. For the next two years, school will be my life, and I don't really want to be coming home from stress to deal with more stress. That is, if I ever do have the time to come home and play games. However, I would be able to manage moderation over the forums if that is needed, which I don't believe it does.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on June 01, 2012, 10:21:45 AM
I would agree with this... but they should only be getting temp admin if either me, Jman, or coolz agree with them being promoted. I would say just if any admin agreed with them being promoted but... really, me and Jman are basically the only active admins atm. So I think that would probably be more fair. But either way, all 3 of us have fairly different views any ways so I think that should actually work out fairly well.
But obviously, this is all up to coolz so we'll need to see what he says.

I also agree with Games idea
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Kahuna on June 01, 2012, 10:56:30 AM
Juan is a good candidate, He's generally friendly with the community,  stays out of trouble most of the time, abides the rules, and is really active.

This
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: cogsandspigots on June 01, 2012, 10:57:55 AM
I don't want to sound arrogant, but I think I'm a good choice.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Prox on June 01, 2012, 01:47:51 PM
I'd like to suggest Alkaline. He's been in this community for about just as much as me. It really sucks to see how unnoticed he his for what he's been doing on the regular servers, he was one of the few VIPs that were playing and helping in Zs and Stronghold.
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Nemisous on June 01, 2012, 02:30:49 PM
I Nemisous P. Buttersworth nominate Jaun_Ambriz for admin 2012, I think he has earned his place among the admin diemigods...........AMBRIZ 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Lets try this again...
Post by: Sabb on June 01, 2012, 06:19:31 PM
I'd like to suggest Alkaline. He's been in this community for about just as much as me. It really sucks to see how unnoticed he his for what he's been doing on the regular servers, he was one of the few VIPs that were playing and helping in Zs and Stronghold.
I really don't know. He seems like an alright guy now. I don't really know of any outstanding issues with him... but, I don't even know if he would be active again once the regular servers are back up. It's fine if he played ZS and stronghold, but I first need to know that he would be active again, with the normal servers.