.:`=-~rANdOm~`-=:. Game Servers
.:`=-~rANdOm~`-=:. Game Servers (Read Only) => Discussion => Topic started by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on March 11, 2012, 09:08:37 PM
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After 4 years of experience in rNd Trouble in Terrorist Town server, I noticed lately there are lots of cases in which VIPs/Admins Abusing their power in the server, especially using their power to bossing around or helping their friends. You will suspect that I am just trolling around / too sensitive / do not have any proof about such cases, but I/we (Regs/Guests) really want such problem to be solved.
Note: 1. This is not towards all Admins / VIPs, its only towards "some" of them.
2. This thread might not last long, it may be moved to bin / -1s / get negative comments by "only" VIPs or Admins.
3. I might be hated among them, even though I do not know who will be next to hate me.
4. For those who does not even believe that such things actually happens, try to be 24 hours active in the server, and you will know.
5. This is not the well-being server that I first know 4 years ago.
6. For "some" Admins / VIPs, you might actually know your misbehave, but you actually just try to act "normal" or "cool".
7. "They" actually did such things when there are no other VIPs / Admins / Super Admins around.
Lastly, sorry for my bad english and I do not know my fate after posting this thread.
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Here's a thought.
Why don't you try to provide proof?
Because otherwise, every sentence you make is just another baseless accusation.
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If you believe VIPs/Admins are abusing please feel free to provide proof and file a report. I know you said you have none, but if it happens as often as you claim then it shouldn't be hard to get (proof that is)
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And yet, my prediction is correct again, "you" demanding proof, I have tons, but all got denied/deleted, try go through all reports or whatever that I posted earlier, and try not to "act" innocent.
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and try not to "act" innocent.
Excuse me? I haven't played on the server in awhile it would kinda be hard for me to abuse if I'm not even there...
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Excuse me? I haven't played on the server in a few weeks it would kinda be hard for me to abuse if I'm not even there...
I believe he was talking to Snivy.
I have a feeling that this is going to cause another shitstorm, so I'm not going to post anymore unless I'm called upon.
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Excuse me? I haven't played on the server in awhile it would kinda be hard for me to abuse if I'm not even there...
(=.=), did I mentioned you?
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And yet, my prediction is correct again, "you" demanding proof, I have tons, but all got denied/deleted, try go through all reports or whatever that I posted earlier, and try not to "act" innocent.
Post some links to said threads.
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I believe he was talking to Snivy.
Ah i didn't even know Death posted above me Lol
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You been playing rNd ttt for 4 years but I haven't seen start playing ttt until well past summer?
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Post some links to said threads.
1. http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11631.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11631.0.html) (Explain this Snivy, your reason to unapproved this does not satisfied me)
2. http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11967.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11967.0.html) (Don, doesn't even stop even after reporting him and please stop deleting my post/comment/thread, for apie2, my score which is -19 doesn't mean he's better than me or I just report him for unfairness)
3. Need more proof? Try disguise yourself and active in TTT server for more than 18 hours.
You been playing rNd ttt for 4 years but I haven't seen start playing ttt until well past summer?
Please Tezuni, just stay away from the case, it doesn't involve you.
And for other Regs/Guests, I don't want you to get involve in this case, just stay away from here, I know your fate and mine after this.
Addition: ursus, try to think about yourself lately. Before and ever since you became a VIP.
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1. http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11631.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11631.0.html) (Explain this Snivy, your reason to unapproved this does not satisfied me)
sorry but copying and pasting does not = proof...
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By the way, the RND TTT server has been around only for about 2 years. I would know because I joined it the first day and RDMed everyone since I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.
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You been playing rNd ttt for 4 years but I haven't seen start playing ttt until well past summer?
He knew me by the name I haven't used in over year and a half, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was here for at least two years.
He's just been under other names I can't quite remember.
1. http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11631.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11631.0.html) (Explain this Snivy, your reason to unapproved this does not satisfied me)
Again, I was there. I was even in the same teamspeak as him because we had just finished playing minecraft together.
Once I knew he started RDMing, I told him to stop, and he respected my command.
Not sure what else you want me to say.
Like Shawn said, if it was any other admin, they would have denied it right away for the copy+pasta'd chat log. At least I was there to diffuse the situation.
2. http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11967.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11967.0.html) (Don, doesn't even stop even after reporting him and please stop deleting my post/comment/thread, for apie2, my score which is -19 doesn't mean he's better than me or I just report him for unfairness)
Again, with the deleted posts. It was a forum bug due to migration. Nobody is out to get you.
No clue what you're talking about with the scores.
3. Need more proof? Try disguise yourself and active in TTT server for more than 18 hours.
You're making the snide assertion that I don't join the server under a guise, and see how people act when an admin or a VIP isn't online.
Plus, I'm not usually awake for more than 18 hours.
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sorry but copying and pasting does not = proof...
If you want directly from logs, I can + some reports approved with "copying and pasting", want me to show it to you again to be satisfied?
And for Dillpill that case, Snivy actually know about it, but he helping him to get him unbanned from it.
I actually warned Dillpill again and again to stop repeatly RDMing others and later he target RDM only on me. First, snivy banned him, after Dillpill personal talked to him, he got unbanned and do that again till i left, you can try find and PM those who are involved or victims to find out more.
You're making the snide assertion that I don't join the server under a guise, and see how people act when an admin or a VIP isn't online.
Plus, I'm not usually awake for more than 18 hours.
So please, I told all earlier, if you cannot awake for more than 18 hours to waste your time in the server, just get information from others who can.
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If you want directly from logs, I can + some reports approved with "copying and pasting", want me to show it to you again to be satisfied?
For those cases'
A, The poster is a very reliable person (still very rare to get approved on that alone)
B, There have been many reports against the player before
C, Multiple witness's to backup said claims of the OP
D, The admin who approved it has dealt with the person before.
Or said Admin made a mistake it does happen (not often but it does)
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For those cases'
A, The poster is a very reliable person (still very rare to get approved on that alone)
B, There have been many reports against the player before
C, Multiple witness's to backup said claims of the OP
D, The admin who approved it has dealt with the person before.
Or said Admin made a mistake it does happen (not often but it does)
You still don't get it... (=.=).
Let me give you an example, if your friend happens to fool around the game, breaking the rules as a GUEST/REG/VIP/ADMIN, he got some scoldings/insults/reports, I think some might actually help him, I may also did the same, but actually you cannot do that."They" should also think of other player's feelings, but some doesn't.
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You still don't get it... (=.=).
Let me give you an example, if your friend happens to fool around the game, breaking the rules as a GUEST/REG/VIP/ADMIN, he got some scoldings/insults/reports, I think some might actually help him, I may also did the same, but actually you cannot do that."They" should also think of other player's feelings, but some doesn't.
Please, either find someone to translate for you, or find a really good online translation app.
I don't think anyone understood what you were trying to say.
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Please, either find someone to translate for you, or find a really good online translation app.
I don't think anyone understood what you were trying to say.
Try get 1 for me, it would be very helpful for me if you can.
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If it's a personal conflict with one person Excalipoor, please message them on steam or PM them on the forums. But please do not rant about it in a topic, but instead report these people who you think, have been abusive.
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If it's a personal conflict with one person Excalipoor, please message them on steam or PM them on the forums. But please do not rant about it in a topic, but instead report these people who you think, have been abusive.
From beginning till the end, it's not a personal conflict.
Explain like such case:
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,10864.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,10864.0.html)
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,10861.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,10861.0.html)
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11083.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11083.0.html)
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,9765.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,9765.0.html)
Cannot explain these eh? Just as what I expected.
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I'm sorry, he's kinda got you boned there. And yes, I was involved in two of these. And to Snivy, this doesn't concern you.
key word-some
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From beginning till the end, it's not a personal conflict.
Explain like such case:
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,10864.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,10864.0.html)
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,10861.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,10861.0.html)
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11083.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11083.0.html)
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,9765.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,9765.0.html)
Cannot explain these eh? Just as what I expected.
Of these links only one of which is bullshit, I'll leave you to determine which the rest are all fairly declined or otherwise rejected, I do admit today was eventful and off the top of my head I can think of one kick that was extremely wrongfully done and a few other minor ones. You're argument is semi-valid but the majority of your proof is flawed.
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And to Snivy, this doesn't concern you.
That's silly.
You're silly.
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From beginning till the end, it's not a personal conflict.
Explain like such case:
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,10864.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,10864.0.html)
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,10861.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,10861.0.html)
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11083.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,11083.0.html)
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,9765.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,9765.0.html)
Cannot explain these eh? Just as what I expected.
So
You're saying lately admins and VIPs have been abusing
Then you proceed to post an example of a now mostly inactive admin that happened 2 months ago
The Hotgreen incident is 4 months old too and he doesn't play anymore either due to broken internet
Your report was bad and staying in that spot isn't a bannable offence. I don't care if someone once said it's not allowed, it is for all I'm concerned.
You make a big accusation and can't back it up.
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Excalipoor.
Just stop.
Please. You won't get anywhere, and older reports won't help you. How hard is it to get proof right now of an admin/vip abusing? Your attitude is also starting to anger me.
You make a big accusation and can't back it up.
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Try get 1 for me, it would be very helpful for me if you can.
Google has one just search for it
(=.=) Is that the Malaysian pissed off face?
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Google has one just search for it
(=.=) Is that the Malaysian pissed off face?
Racist.
So
You're saying lately admins and VIPs have been abusing
Then you proceed to post an example of a now mostly inactive admin that happened 2 months ago
The Hotgreen incident is 4 months old too and he doesn't play anymore either due to broken internet
Your report was bad and staying in that spot isn't a bannable offence. I don't care if someone once said it's not allowed, it is for all I'm concerned.
You make a big accusation and can't back it up.
I did not accuse, it is reality and I is happening lately, and since I brought up this case/problem, admins/vips such as "you" will start to stop yourself from abusing your power and act like you are so responsible for the servers and players. Try to ask some Guest/VIPs whether they like your attitude towards them, and don't try to get the help of your friends.
Excalipoor.
Just stop.
Please. You won't get anywhere, and older reports won't help you. How hard is it to get proof right now of an admin/vip abusing? Your attitude is also starting to anger me.
Which of my attitude angered you?
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Try to ask some Guest/VIPs
I love how you keep saying that but when a Reg posted your response was
just stay away from the case, it doesn't involve you.
So maybe you should rephrase what you're saying to "ask some Guest/VIPs that agree with me, and if you don't agree with me don't post because this case has nothing to do with you"
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I did not accuse, it is reality and I is happening lately, and since I brought up this case/problem, admins/vips such as "you" will start to stop yourself from abusing your power and act like you are so responsible for the servers and players. Try to ask some Guest/VIPs whether they like your attitude towards them, and don't try to get the help of your friends.
What.
I barely even talk when I'm ingame and the only times where I ever use my powers is to explode glitchers.
Not sure what you're trying to say.
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I guess this thread will end up like the thread about missing posts. :l
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Can you just stop bitching and actually take action for once, Excalipoor?! At first you said that VIPs and Admins are not active enough and now they are abusing, but yet in both cases you do nothing or barely anything compared to the amount of your complains... I mean, alright, you might be saying truth about this, but we can't be sure about it. Make reports with proof and then you will be considered.
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So as shawn said this is just, to all those of you that agree with me post here. Everyone else this doesn't concern you? I can think of one bad decision for almost every vip or admin I've met, we've all made one because we make mistakes, it's what makes us human we have emotions and they can cloud our judgement. Do I know of any vip/admin that has deliberately abused full well realizing they are indeed abusing, while I was present no. This is already going to turn out poorly for whatever reason everyone and their mothers (myself included) have been especially bitchy, short, all sorts of angry on the forums lately and as you saw from aerobro's idiotic comment which was totally uncalled for, things will most likely end up getting personal. Please for the love of all things dark and abysmal close this thread his claims are nothing but baseless accusations of our humanity, we all know Don's a robot.
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Cannot explain these eh? Just as what I expected.
That comment makes me really pissed off.
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That comment makes me really pissed off.
Pretty much this is why I hated your attitude.
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Pretty much this is why I hated your attitude.
Seriously dude, don't try to start a shitstorm. We just had one two days ago.
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Off Topic: Well we're falling apart...
On Topic: What we need is are moderators or some important dudes to look into things more. I've been in these kind of situations (About 10 times) in my old forum and I would say that we need understanding people. I ain't gonna point fingers at anyone and that is all I need to say.
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I personally think we have the best admin team I've ever seen. If they abused their power so much wouldn't they just ban you? That would be simpler than trying to reason with you about it, and yet they do try to reason. That's just the way I see it. No one is perfect, but our admins are better than most. ^.^
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I personally think we have the best admin team I've ever seen. If they abused their power so much wouldn't they just ban you? That would be simpler than trying to reason with you about it, and yet they do try to reason. That's just the way I see it. No one is perfect, but some of our admins are better than most. ^.^
Had to fix that for ya,
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I personally think we have the best admin team I've ever seen. If they abused their power so much wouldn't they just ban you? That would be simpler than trying to reason with you about it, and yet they do try to reason. That's just the way I see it. No one is perfect, but our admins are better than most. ^.^
Not really, for years, I found out Hotgreensoldier , Minic , Xrain , » Magic «, Tomcat, SMasters, Sniffles and Devie ♥ are best among all Admins.
1. They are responsible.
2. They are sociable.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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Not really, for years, I found out Hotgreensoldier , Minic , Xrain , » Magic «, Tomcat, SMasters, Sniffles and Devie ♥ are best among all Admins.
1. They are responsible.
2. They are sociable.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Of course that's opinion, but in my opinion your very very very wrong lol. (no not because I'm not there)
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Of course that's opinion, but in my opinion your very very very wrong lol. (no not because I'm not there)
Yeah very wrong IMO, but my reason is because Sabb isn't there. (Sarcasm)
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Not really, for years, I found out Hotgreensoldier , Minic , Xrain , » Magic «, Tomcat, SMasters, Sniffles and Devie ♥ are best among all Admins.
1. They are responsible.
2. They are sociable.
Correct me if I am wrong.
oh I get it
It's funny because they're all inactive.
Except maybe hotgreen, who neglects the servers exclusively and still posts on the forums.
You're clever.
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oh I get it
It's funny because they're all inactive.
Except maybe hotgreen, who neglects the servers exclusively and still posts on the forums.
You're clever.
.....Really?
The only reason I haven't been anymore BUT the forums is because me internet is dead. Really nice.
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.....Really?
The only reason I haven't been anymore BUT the forums is because me internet is dead. Really nice.
I wasn't trying to criticize you .___.
I'm drawing attention to the fact that either Excalipoor is blatantly trolling at this point, or he's just that oblivious.
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Next time if an admin/VIP abuses, PLEASE REPORT IT WITH PROPER PROOF AND DON'T JUST BITCH ABOUT IT. You'll just make a shitstorm if you don't provide proof.
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Next time if an admin/VIP abuses, PLEASE REPORT IT WITH PROPER PROOF AND DON'T JUST BITCH ABOUT IT. You'll just make a shitstorm if you don't provide proof.
Well, not neccasarily a shitstorm. Only if they make it out to be one...Like this.
Next time if an admin/VIP abuses, PLEASE REPORT IT WITH PROPER PROOF
Just going to leave that there....Just in case nobody noticed it....Right there....In the big red font...Can't miss it. :)
I wasn't trying to criticize you .___.
I'm drawing attention to the fact that either Excalipoor is blatantly trolling at this point, or he's just that oblivious.
Just kinda got a bit ticked off how you said neglects.
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How about we leave it at that. Okay? Not everybody has to get involved in this shit.
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Well, not neccasarily a shitstorm. Only if they make it out to be one...Like this.
Just going to leave that there....Just in case nobody noticed it....Right there....In the big red font...Can't miss it. :)
Just kinda got a bit ticked off how you said neglects.
Explain that Teeny ban case, since she banned those who are suspected ghosting for a month, most of them (who are good players and innocent for the case) left the server.
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Explain that Teeny ban case, since she banned those who are suspected ghosting for a month, most of them (who are good players and innocent for the case) left the server.
There were 3 admins and 2 VIPs watching them. They repeatedly got kills which were impossible without having known who the traitors were. We decided to take action against said individuals.
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Not really, for years, I found out Hotgreensoldier , Minic , Xrain , » Magic «, Tomcat, SMasters, Sniffles and Devie ♥ are best among all Admins.
1. They are responsible.
2. They are sociable.
Correct me if I am wrong.
A bit too obvious, don't you think?
I'm just going to lock this.
Partly because I'm trying to suppress any kind of criticism since I want to continue to abuse my powers.
But also because it's a poorly presented accusation that no one can get smart out of. The most that will come out of this is, well, absolutely nothing.
Next time, bring some concrete examples with you, and don't just say "but they abuse and hide it cleverly, I guarantee it 100%".