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Title: VIP activity check.
Post by: Roach :3 on January 05, 2012, 09:59:22 AM
Basically its an activity check for the VIP's to see if they're active or not
and gather some information like the times VIP's are on the server.
For example, VIP's will have to fill a form.
I'm going to break it into two parts, the form it self and how should the VIP answer.

In-Game name:
Are you active?
How much time do you spend on the servers?
If you're not active, are you planning to get active?
What's your GMT?
Extra:


In-Game name: TheRoach (You may put other names here if you're using them.)
Are you active? Active/Not really active/Not active. (Now here you should write if you're active or not like the question says, be honest)
How much time do you spend on the servers? Around 1-5 hours. (Just write how much time you spend in the server every day, again be honest)
If you're not active, are you planning to get active? -(Leave it blank or some kind of sign if you're active).
I'm planning to get active soon. (Most likely if you're not really active and you plan to.)
Due to blah blah blah <some random reason why you can't be active> I won't be active this week. (If you're not active, or you have a reason why you're not, again be honest)
What's your GMT? GMT+1 (Your GMT, easy isn't it?)
Extra: None (Here you just write if you got something else you to tell.)


Positives:
- Will check if VIP's are really active or not.
- May increase the VIP activity in total on the servers.


Negatives:
- May reduce the number of VIP members.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Shawn on January 05, 2012, 10:08:47 AM
Whats the real point of this? Does it really mater if we're active 24/7 or not?

The way i view it is the more VIPS the better doesn't really matter if we're active 24/7 or not because if theres enough of us that means theres going to be atleast one VIP on the servers at any giving time... 
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Roach :3 on January 05, 2012, 10:14:34 AM
The VIPs should be on the servers from time to time, this is going to check if they're on or not, if not they should face removal.
If you're not "good" enough to face the truth and say it by yourself that you can't be on the servers or you don't want to then the admins should do it for you.
That is the point, get active or face removal, new and old players play the server to enjoy it, this why rNd has the VIP rank so they'll check if everything is okay and not reports section on the forums always.
That should be the point of the VIP rank.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Deacon on January 05, 2012, 10:26:33 AM
The VIPs should be on the servers from time to time, this is going to check if they're on or not, if not they should face removal.
If you're not "good" enough to face the truth and say it by yourself that you can't be on the servers or you don't want to then the admins should do it for you.
That is the point, get active or face removal, new and old players play the server to enjoy it, this why rNd has the VIP rank so they'll check if everything is okay and not reports section on the forums always.
That should be the point of the VIP rank.


Um...no. We all see whether or not the VIPs are online by playing the servers. You can tell activity just by either playing with them, noticing them doing their job, or the oldest method of sending them a message.

We've had inactivity demotions in the past; and I don't see why they won't continue in the future
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Roach :3 on January 05, 2012, 10:28:44 AM

Um...no. We all see whether or not the VIPs are online by playing the servers. You can tell activity just by either playing with them, noticing them doing their job, or the oldest method of sending them a message.

We've had inactivity demotions in the past; and I don't see why they won't continue in the future

That's the point of the activity check.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Deacon on January 05, 2012, 10:30:37 AM
That's the point of the activity check.

we have vips that are not very active on the forums but do go on the servers still. They still take care of business and do their jobs. All you're going to do with this is create a new step in an already simple process
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Dale Feles on January 05, 2012, 10:32:34 AM
Honestly my times online are very fluid. I've got like, around 26 hours on Gmod this week, but it's due to my holiday school vacation. Also, I don't really think we need to make a whole thread for VIP activity checking. I'm pretty sure that some admins will check on their own, or even Coolzeldad himself.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Shawn on January 05, 2012, 10:38:11 AM
That is the point, get active or face removal, [/quote]

First, some people have lives and can't be active 24/7
Seconded does it really make any difference if someone is a VIP that isn't active 24/7?

i have no clue what half you post means...

"new and old players play the server to enjoy it, this why rNd has the VIP rank so they'll check if everything is okay and not reports section on the forums always.
That should be the point of the VIP rank."

Are you trying to say the more active we are the less reports admins have to check? if that is the case then that would be false since VIPS also have to make reports to get people perma banned/ couple days since we can only ban for an hour.

And or you also trying to say VIP rank ties into "You're been active for a long time you deserve VIP"

if so i think not, I always felt its not about how long/active you are but how you control yourself and use the rank to make proper calls when you are online to ban/kick properly IMHO its more or a sign of respect to say "We trust you to follow the rules and enforce them"


"If you're not "good" enough"

Really? now your trying to insult my integrity? WOW I'm not even going to comment on that

I will say I don't play as much as i use to or as much i like to but i do try to atleast get 30mins to an hour a night in SH or Fretta (never can get in TTT its always full :() BUT I am usually always available if people need to message me to come kick/ban someone.


Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Roach :3 on January 05, 2012, 10:48:00 AM
Making of the thread will make it easier for the admins.
Also I've seen a lot of VIP's before go "Okay I got my VIP now I don't need to go on the servers."

As I said, its a check if the VIPs really go on the servers.
Like stated it my increase the activity just 'cause the VIP can see the thread and quickly go on to the server to be active and stay VIP.
The admins don't have to go spying on the VIPs to check if they're active or not, the VIP should tell the admin.
Why he can't, why he wants to leave and other stuff.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Roach :3 on January 05, 2012, 10:49:14 AM
Shawn, I'm not insulting you, it wasn't meant to do anything against you.
It was an example this thread is not only about you and me.

Sowwy for the doublez post.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Prox on January 05, 2012, 10:51:58 AM
Over the time I realized that demoting VIPs for inactivity is pointless. There is no gain in this at all.
But if you guys think the otherwise then why exclude admins from this? I thought rules apply to everyone.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Roach :3 on January 05, 2012, 10:53:14 AM
Over the time I realized that demoting VIPs for inactivity is pointless. There is no gain in this at all.
But if you guys think the otherwise then why exclude admins from this? I thought rules apply to everyone.
Yes that's what I was thinking at first too, but this is just an example.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Shawn on January 05, 2012, 10:55:33 AM
Shawn, I'm not insulting you, it wasn't meant to do anything against you.
It was an example this thread is not only about you and me.

Sowwy for the doublez post.

When you make a post in response to mine and add "When you're not good enough" I take that as an insult directed towards me

But if you guys think the otherwise then why exclude admins from this? I thought rules apply to everyone.

Becuase we'd lose half the admins  :trollface:
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Roach :3 on January 05, 2012, 11:01:29 AM
Quote
If you're not "good" enough to face the truth and say it by yourself that you can't be on the servers or you don't want to then the admins should do it for you.

That was meant for the all the VIP's and the members that are going to be, again sorry if its a bit harsh but there is no other way to describe it.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Deacon on January 05, 2012, 11:01:55 AM
"Okay I got my VIP now I don't need to go on the servers"

Who? Who has done this? I have not seen a single one. Let alone "alot"

We have a VIP board, you know. We do take care of business.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Roach :3 on January 05, 2012, 11:06:06 AM
It didn't really happen this year, but still happened.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Shawn on January 05, 2012, 11:15:57 AM
It didn't really happen this year, but still happened.

When and who? maybe it happened when the rank respected was on here but that rank was handed out like candy....
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Roach :3 on January 05, 2012, 11:24:20 AM
No Shawn, I mean the VIP rank not the respect, I don't exactly remember 'cause it was before I left rNd.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Shawn on January 05, 2012, 11:37:25 AM
No Shawn, I mean the VIP rank

I don't recall a single person doing that....
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Roach :3 on January 05, 2012, 11:44:21 AM
Maybe you forgot, it really happened.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Deacon on January 05, 2012, 11:54:59 AM
Maybe you forgot, it really happened.

which is why i asked.
I've been here a little over a year now. i don't recall this happening.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Dale Feles on January 05, 2012, 12:08:37 PM
Maybe you forgot, it really happened.

Pryvisee?
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Roach :3 on January 05, 2012, 12:12:03 PM
Maybe, but not only, like I know they left rNd long time ago.
I think the same happened with Cobra, he started to play a bit and then just left with Reborn. (Most of the old members might know them, really old members.)
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: cogsandspigots on January 05, 2012, 12:27:47 PM
We don't need a form, admins will PM someone who looks like they have gone inactive.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Roach :3 on January 05, 2012, 12:37:43 PM
I think its a lot more easier for admins just to make a thread and post the same form again and again, if they want the can change it.
Admins don't need to watch VIP's activity, that's why they're VIP because they are trusted and the administration team believes in them.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Deacon on January 05, 2012, 12:39:42 PM
Admins don't need to watch VIP's activity
Admins don't need to watch VIP's activity

Admins don't need to watch VIP's activity
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Roach :3 on January 05, 2012, 12:47:58 PM
Yes, and that's why VIP's should fill the form.
They can't just go inactive because they want so, they should tell the admins if they want to be removed, admins just watch lets say a week after who posted and who didn't.
He didn't post on the second activity check *removed*.
Easy?
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Prox on January 05, 2012, 01:13:46 PM
I think that people should not be demoted for inactivity at all.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Frank on January 05, 2012, 01:18:16 PM
No no no no no no no!



Community? You're doing it WRONG!


It's alright as it is right now.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Roach :3 on January 05, 2012, 01:23:57 PM
I'm not saying its bad like it is, its just a suggetion.
but it would be easier to find who is really active and does something and who is not.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: YomoFox on January 05, 2012, 01:56:12 PM
I lol'd at nobody posting "I'm active" etc...

Idea is all mod/vips join one IRC channel, and put ircbot.
IRC bot broadcast global chat message, so we can go to server when somone called VIP :O
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Mr. Franklin on January 05, 2012, 03:55:19 PM
If we do a VIP activity check, do a Admin activity check to.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Don on January 05, 2012, 04:03:38 PM
I don't think this is needed.

Admins have a good overview of who is active and who isn't.

There's nothing to gain from demoting admins or VIPs because of their inactivity, I don't actually know why we still do it.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Bullet Freeman on January 05, 2012, 04:10:55 PM
What ive seen is when people get rpomoted to vip they become much less active than they used to be
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: aerobro on January 05, 2012, 04:13:54 PM
We can fix this by NOT demoting Necruly for inactivity.....
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Don on January 05, 2012, 04:20:24 PM
We can fix this by NOT demoting Necruly for inactivity.....
what?
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Deacon on January 05, 2012, 04:27:17 PM
We can fix this by NOT demoting Necruly for inactivity.....


....Necruly is a vip....isn't he?
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: aerobro on January 05, 2012, 04:44:33 PM

....Necruly is a vip....isn't he?
check out the demoted list in the VIP section
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: memo3300 on January 05, 2012, 09:08:55 PM
I think we shouldn't demote VIPs anymore...


They get VIP not because they are active 24/7 or just play 1 day a week, they get VIP because the community trust in their way to handle situations , take actions, and that they will give a good impression of the comunity by helping out players.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Bullet Freeman on January 06, 2012, 09:05:51 AM
I think we shouldn't demote VIPs anymore...


They get VIP not because they are active 24/7 or just play 1 day a week, they get VIP because the community trust in their way to handle situations , take actions, and that they will give a good impression of the comunity by helping out players.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Bovicide on January 06, 2012, 09:23:31 AM
When a interest becomes compulsory it ceases to be an interest. Case in point, the above.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Deacon on January 06, 2012, 09:31:46 AM
When an interest becomes compulsory it ceases to be an interest. Case in point, the above.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Bovicide on January 06, 2012, 09:36:13 AM

my post is just a quote


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You missed the entire point you unemployed grammar genius.

Repost for reiteration.

Quote
When an interest becomes compulsory it ceases to be an interest. Case in point, the above.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Deacon on January 06, 2012, 01:40:19 PM
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You missed the entire point you unemployed grammar genius.

You really don't know how to smile, do you?
Also, I have a job.
I don't get that quote by the way.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Supertoaster on January 06, 2012, 02:08:19 PM
I try to join a game at least once every day.

I don't like the idea of this.
Title: Re: VIP activity check.
Post by: Cake Faice on January 06, 2012, 02:16:28 PM
When a interest becomes compulsory it ceases to be an interest. Case in point, the above.

Fucking this.

/thread

Somewhat.