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Bans (Read Only) => Report => Unapproved => Topic started by: DrOctagonnapus on December 04, 2011, 09:37:38 AM
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1. Player's SteamID: STEAM_0:1:28960727
2. Players Nickname: .:~RND`=- Hotgreensoldier
3. Your in-game name: Dr.Octagonnapus
4. Server name: Zombie survival
5. Description of the event(s): Abuse of admin powers/ Random turning into zombie
6. Reason for demote: Enforcing "his" rule of no spawn camping when the server rules clearly do not state this AT ALL.. And punishing people for even being CLOSE to the zombie spawn..In this demo he "zombifies" me for getting two kills on the edge of the spawn then retreating back towards the door just to be turned into a zombie by a greater force.. Turns out its hotgreen angry because i got two kills? Possibly a grudge from previous playtime? Who knows..? Only hotgreen i would imagine.Upon proclaiming that this was admin abuse he just laughs at my accusations. I assume he will be here shortly to discuss how i was spawn camping and what not. I recorded what i was doing and it sure looks a lot like a teenager using his powers for "lols" with a disguise of " its breaking a rule that doesnt exist " Once he proclaimed not to spawn camp i stayed back.. as my recording shows.. I tried to get one kill to get health boost since.. Everyone was shooting all at once i move to the edge of the ramps and kill 1 or 2 zombies just to get turned into one. I'm sorry but people who act like this don't deserve admin
7. Screen shots or demo(s) | http://www.filedropper.com/admin_1 (http://www.filedropper.com/admin_1)
PS . Steam id inside DEM folder. Im sure its on his admin/vip app as well
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"His" rule has been discussed with multiple people.
It is true that it's not on the rules list when joining the servers, but it's on this list, which is pretty much official as well:
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,7835.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,7835.0.html)
You knew that you'd get zombified if you stood on that ledge or next to spawn.
You still did it.
You got your (very, very minor) punishment for it.
Also your report is supposed to be objective - the description of the events shouldn't be about how you think hotgreen is being childish and holding a grudge against you.
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Im sure you already talked with hotgreen.. But i wasnt spawncamping... Nor is it about if i think he is childish.. He isnt... Nor did i state that it was him holding a grudge. You took it out of context.
didnt edit it out its still there
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Here ya go:
STEAM_0:1:28960727
That's my steamID.
You were told to STAY AWAY from spawn. This is not "my" rule. I have discussed it with a super admin, two other admins, and a VIP. We agreed that if enough warning was given, ZOMBIFYING (Not kicking, not banning, not anything severe like that) is a eligible punishment.
You still stayed near spawn and it doesn't matter if you came for a little bit. It's like saying "oh, I'm going to have for a tiny bit and stop. I shouldn't be punished."
You were told many times to stop spawn camping and yet you did it anyways. You were not the only one affected so stop saying that I was "targetting" you. The only one who appeared to be mad at the time was you because punishment was taken against something that you shouldn't have been doing.
EDIT: Actually, Don was watching the whole time too. He gave me your name (because zombies can't see humans names)
"turns out Hotgreen was "angry" for me getting two kills?.." You knew why you got zombified. You were informed many times and you still stood next to the ledge. rules =/= angry
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Its all in the replay i shouldnt have to say any more
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And you DID say that "Maybe it was him holding a grudge for something done before"
You just edited it out.
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The spawn camping has been cleared up by Coolz. It IS allowed.
However, this was not admin abuse due to the fact it was done upon sayings of multiple ranked members. You were not the only one conflicted and it seemed as though you were doing the same.
It was not simply going out and killing everyone
I am not going to lock this due to the fact it is made upon me. Just putting in there was a REASON behind the ban. Not just aimlessly punishing people for no reason.
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EDIT: Actually, Don was watching the whole time too. He gave me your name (because zombies can't see humans names)
The only way for Zs to see human names is to pay attention to, screenshot if you wish, who killed who on the upper-right [.:'=-~rNd~-=':. Terminal Cancer [pistol symbol] [some zombie's name] for example] when you are killed [or someone else is killed]
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When ever I play zombie survival, I normally spawn camp for the first 2 waves. I do not think this should be punishable. It should be up to the map maker to create a map that prevents spawn camping.
The point of the game mode is to survive. I see this as getting the most amount of weapons and killing the most amount of zombies.
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When ever I play zombie survival, I normally spawn camp for the first 2 waves. I do not think this should be punishable. It should be up to the map maker to create a map that prevents spawn camping.
The point of the game mode is to survive. I see this as getting the most amount of weapons and killing the most amount of zombies.
Hence why it's allowed ._.
It was not SAID to have been allowed or not at the time of the incident.
But it was discussed between other members (not Coolz yet) that overexcessive spawn camping was not allowed as long as sufficient warning was given.
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Hence why it's allowed ._.
Then why do you zombify people
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The point of the game mode is to survive.
Ugh, I don't WANT to throw this thread offtopic as it is not my thing, but this BEGS that I do it, it nags at me.
It is called zombie survival - but the name IMPLIES that zombies are even allowed to pose some sort of a threat in the first place - a threat that is killed when people camp in the fog, kill as zombies start moving in the fog, etc. You remove that ability to pose a threat, you aren't "surviving," you're just slaughtering in a way that makes others not want to play because it is virtually impossible to do so. I don't mean any disrespect on a personal level, just the "hurp durp it's called survival" shit feels so phony, so superficial, so "grasping at straws" like. You can't claim you're trying to survive against a threat if you remove the threat, and if you camp in the way that infected hospital allows, then you do so both by getting them before they become a threat - when they come into existence more so where the problem lies - and not making people want to stick around, which is why I really think coolz's decision is erroneous [not that I can do anything about it, just my opinion].
[For the record: I HAVE started as zombie, and redeemed - from there surviving to the end of wave 10. In spite of this, I still think the map sucks, and the issue maps like it create sucks, and is detrimental to gameplay.]
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Ugh, I don't WANT to throw this thread offtopic as it is not my thing, but this BEGS that I do it, it nags at me.
It is called zombie survival - but the name IMPLIES that zombies are even allowed to pose some sort of a threat in the first place - a threat that is killed when people camp in the fog, kill as zombies start moving in the fog, etc. You remove that ability to pose a threat, you aren't "surviving," you're just slaughtering in a way that makes others not want to play because it is virtually impossible to do so. I don't mean any disrespect on a personal just the "hurp durp it's called survival" shit feels so phony, so superficial, so "grasping at straws" like.
Surviving = Staying alive.
More than half of the time zombies win.
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Then why do you zombify people
You made the replies before I finished modifying Dx
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You made the replies before I finished modifying Dx
Ah, I see.
Well you better warn people VERRRYY well.
Use the chat thing that displays on everyone screen.
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Ah, I see.
Well you better warn people VERRRYY well.
Use the chat thing that displays on everyone screen.
Isn't enabled on Zs.
I warned them for about 2 waves because I'm VERYY slow at finding names ._.
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I'd like to see one official rule page made by either a super admin or coolz. There's just too many rule pages which are questionably official and scattered everywhere.
My opinion is that no discussions between admins and VIPs should be able to circumvent them to their liking.
u quote me too fast >:(
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I'd like to see one official rule page made by either a super admin or coolz. No discussions between admins and VIPs should be able to circumvent them to their liking.
That is all :)
The specific rules are on the loading screens.
Other than those, the server rules are just common sense.
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I'd like to see one official rule page made by either a super admin or coolz. There's just too many rule pages which are questionably official and scattered everywhere.
My opinion is that no discussions between admins and VIPs should be able to circumvent them to their liking.
u quote me too fast >:(
we have got only one thread were like a community we have discussed what is wrong and what is fine.
I don't really see anything wrong with this.
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we have got only one thread were like a community we have discussed what is wrong and what is fine.
I don't really see anything wrong with this.
I've seen a lot of rule threads, and a lot of arguments about what is or isn't official.
I think discussing changes to the existing rules as a community is great – but admins and VIPs using discussion to justify bending real rules, or making their own just isn't cool!
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I've seen a lot of rule threads, and a lot of arguments about what is or isn't official.
I think discussing changes to the existing rules as a community is great – but admins and VIPs using discussion to justify bending real rules, or making their own just isn't cool!
there are threads asking if this is bannable or not... but there is only one sticky'd thread where we have tried to compile all the rules and discuss some of them.
anyways i'm done here, i don't want to keep derailing this thread... if it bothers you tezuni make another thread.
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I've seen a lot of rule threads, and a lot of arguments about what is or isn't official.
I think discussing changes to the existing rules as a community is great – but admins and VIPs using discussion to justify bending real rules, or making their own just isn't cool!
Anything is bannable if it's deemed a problem.
That's always been the "existing rule".
It's up to the VIP/Admins discretion to know what is or isn't right, that's why they're voted into their responsibility from a vote of the community. Not just "O LOL UR KOL HERE HAV ADMIN".
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Anything is bannable if it's deemed a problem.
That's always been the "existing rule".
It's up to the VIP/Admins discretion to know what is or isn't right, that's why they're voted into their responsibility from a vote of the community. Not just "O LOL UR KOL HERE HAV ADMIN".
Sort of going off of this, almost all rules are sort of in that "gray area", meaning it can be looked at in many different ways. It depends on the judgement of the one who is handling the problem, and if it seems to much of a problem, then it depends on the judgement of the whole community