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Tech Lounge => Mapping => Topic started by: devvybabe ♥ on March 04, 2010, 07:12:04 PM
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I wanted to know if you guys think its a fairly good idea to create a hospital map for zs. A very very good friend of mine is currently working on it and I pitched in some good ideas. But mainly, its all his work. I'm just putting it out there. Since no one on rnd knows him very much.
Zombie spawn is in basement. Which is also a morgue. We dont know if we'll make a second floor or not. Human spawn is outside the hospital in parking lot.
Here's a snippet of the map
Source SDK - zs_hospital_beta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d4yDDWYIEQ#)
This is an extremely early stage of the map, there's still 98% of the hospital to be built. The textures are nowhere near done. The map is planned to be very much detailed. There's more to come. He's working on it very hard. His name is Proudly Infected.
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Sounds like a very good idea for a map. I can already imagine it. Tell him to make it as detailed as possible for maximum awesome!
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This sounds like L4D Mercy Hospital xP
AWESOME!
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rly cool idea, sis
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Thank you for checking it out. I appreciate it. The map maker appreciates it more. Thanks for your opinion as well :D
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tell him/her to learn about lighting tho xP
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I'll tell him about that :D But any specifications about the lighting ?
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http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Lighting (http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Lighting)
http://source-tutorials.synthasite.com/lighting-tutorial.php (http://source-tutorials.synthasite.com/lighting-tutorial.php)
http://halfwit-2.com/?page=tutorials&category=4 (http://halfwit-2.com/?page=tutorials&category=4)
http://www.interlopers.net/tutorials/General_Half-Life_2/Lighting (http://www.interlopers.net/tutorials/General_Half-Life_2/Lighting)
http://www.interlopers.net/tutorials/29797 (http://www.interlopers.net/tutorials/29797)
Enviromental Lighting, Indoor Lights, Make It Like Real Life, Right Now Everything Is FullBright xP
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Awesome! Thanks! That helps a ton :D
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Magic is right, a map is 50% map, 50% lighting. Lighting does so much for a map.
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Magic is right, a map is 50% map, 50% lighting. Lighting does so much for a map.
^^^^
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We'll work on it :D
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Hey guys, thanks for all the positive feedback on my map, yeah dont worry I know lighting is very important but im making that the last finishing touches when the hospital is actually built, but yeah im gonna add a megaton fuckload of detail and im gonna actually make it make sense, probably gonna put some custom textures (if i can) that will actually compile with the map so no missing textures for anyone, such as maybe a pepsi vending machine, and blah blah blah, im gonna fix the map's background a bit and a whole lot more, honestly guys this is the first map im actually FINISHING, ive made a lot but always quit lol. but dont worry I know my way around hammer a bit, I thought about adding some rain, but i wont unless you guys think it's a good idea, gonna fix textures since the door is retarded and the walls are all fucked up. and also lets see.. oh well cant think of anything else right now, but if you have any ideas (or just want to say how the truck spawn is an awesome idea) lemme know and ill see what i can do to put it in the map. and note: I haven't planned on putting any of those asshole hidden secret shit like you'll find on death maps.
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Maake secret adm0n room for sanders. Lol jk.
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such as maybe a pepsi vending machine, and blah blah blah
My baby loves pepsi. We're just yin and yang. Team coke ftw. LOLOL jk.
I think adding at least one secret. Maybe a room or at least an ammo crate. Maybe? :)
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probably, maybe, idk, well the plan was to have a rooftop with removeable AC units that we could cade with or something, or maybe ill make it like some weird ass penthouse (which wouldn't make a damn bit of sense since its a hospital) maybe save that idea for another map BUT yeah like a rooftop with "survival supplies" (just ammo and shit) but yeah everything isn't on a super serious blueprint or anything, i tend to make things better when i'm able to form things as i go instead of sticking to plans. soo yah guyz...
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8)
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Hey guys, thanks for all the positive feedback on my map, yeah dont worry I know lighting is very important but im making that the last finishing touches when the hospital is actually built, but yeah im gonna add a megaton fuckload of detail and im gonna actually make it make sense, probably gonna put some custom textures (if i can) that will actually compile with the map so no missing textures for anyone, such as maybe a pepsi vending machine, and blah blah blah, im gonna fix the map's background a bit and a whole lot more, honestly guys this is the first map im actually FINISHING, ive made a lot but always quit lol. but dont worry I know my way around hammer a bit, I thought about adding some rain, but i wont unless you guys think it's a good idea, gonna fix textures since the door is retarded and the walls are all fucked up. and also lets see.. oh well cant think of anything else right now, but if you have any ideas (or just want to say how the truck spawn is an awesome idea) lemme know and ill see what i can do to put it in the map. and note: I haven't planned on putting any of those asshole hidden secret shit like you'll find on death maps.
Yeeaassss :D
If about 10-30 Players in server do all of them spawn in the truck?
That would be uber cramped and spawn glitches etc... lol!
Awesome idea though, maybe add a basement and make zombie spawn there?
Do the lighting LAST
Before you start the lighting always make a backup...
Take time in Displacements,
Don't use the same texture more than enough times in one room >_>(Pleeeease)
Innovative environments (airplane, jungle, ocean... )
More interactions (elevators, machines...)
Better graphics
Better gameplay
Indoor ambiences
Outdoor ambiences
Realistic environments (single buildings, cities, country...)
Imaginary environments (space, fantastical...)
More cading spots but smaller (each human can try surviving alone)
Less cading spots but larger (choose this if you prefer cooperate with other humans)
Custom Content is always a BIGGIE!!
Inspirational Images:
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(http://www.crtonline.org/images/hospital_1.jpg)
(http://bristol-vet.co.uk/images/hospital_tour/hospital_map_off.jpg)
(http://katieinglis.com/Portfolio_3_files/Hospital_Map.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GX3Q5Kx0zg4/SxjLcK20vQI/AAAAAAAADag/-wi2LxZyJqc/s1600/Chernobyl-Today-A-Creepy-Story-told-in-Pictures-hospital2.jpg)
http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&gbv=2&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=hospital&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&start=0 (http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&gbv=2&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=hospital&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&start=0)
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And of course: http://www.noxiousnet.com/forums/index.php?topic=2373.0 (http://www.noxiousnet.com/forums/index.php?topic=2373.0)
Hope you has fun making this and good luck from rANdOm ;D :police:
-James
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also:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/BJK51/Hammer/4573215432165.png)
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i just hope those doors won't be glitchy like the ones on zs_4ngry
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This is really helpful.
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no problemó :P
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ah yeah ok thanks for typing all that, yeah i am gonna do a lot of major stuff differently and most of your tips are gonna be done real soon, yeah i know not EVERYONE will spawn in the truck, i was honestly gonna add very few in the actual truck but the spawn WILL be in the parking lot, the basement will be a morgue, ill have some drawers half open and shit with bodies inside and stuff like that for extra awesome, and yeah thats gonna be zomb spawn. and wow the links, thanks a lot that really is epic and helps a lot with ideas. And the needs to know for zs is gonna save me a lot of trouble, i didn't even think of that before but thanks i'm gonna keep you guys updated with how it turns out
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I need help, ran into first problem, how can i make a night lighting environment, moonlight having to do with brightness or something?
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use dark skybox, sun colour to Black, i never done a night map before xD
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OK, well I've got a bit more done, pretty much finished with first floor FOR NOW, but all i have to do is prop the rooms, and for some reason every time i put i prop in sdk it doesn't show up once compiled, i have no idea why. that's happened for tables, vehicle props, a fridge even, and a few things here and there, im not sure whats going on.
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Krasher shall haz pics when he is done with fm_mountains so you can haz examples
In the mean time:
Hardstyle Republic (MAS) - MOONBOY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSpL6A8T4nQ#)
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Krasher shall haz pics when he is done with fm_mountains so you can haz examples
In the mean time:
Hardstyle Republic (MAS) - MOONBOY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSpL6A8T4nQ#)
lmao
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Compile log?
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mmmmm that happend to me before check if you are using the right props eg some props were made only for static you need to use prop_physics_override or prop_dynamic_override
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Yeah a hospital map has been done. check this out http://www.garrysmod.com/news/?p=8001. (http://www.garrysmod.com/news/?p=8001.) Its a good example of what you're going to be competeing with. this map is relativly fail. Like its missing alot on the reslease that shows what it is but its fail. So use it as a general guide. But good idea anyway, good luck.
Sorry if this is a late post
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Oh cool, thankyou for posting that, I'll use it as a guide for improvement, now even though this is my first map im putting a LOT of effort in, im going to make sure its great!
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Hey guys, Sorry the maps been so slow, I've been pre-occupied, the other day I ran into a problem, I've been building the map under the Counter Strike Source SDK version. And realized theres no ammo-crates, health boxes, zombie spawn-points, or anything I need. So I just got half-life 2 and started working again, this time most of the textures are white from css... I fixed most, but not all. I'm kinda stuck. I know there are maps that use stuff from both games. How can I do this?
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well you could of kept your textures the same and saved your map, then open it up with hl2, add ammo crates/hp whatever, then switch it back to css(yes it will not show in css but in gmod it will)
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GCFScape the textures our of Counter Striker: Source Content.gcf in steam/steamapps folder, extract "materials" + "models" folder to "C:/steam/steamapps/proudlyinfected/garrysmod/garrysmod"
GCFScape = http://tinyurl.com/yafc687 (http://tinyurl.com/yafc687)
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Oh, duh. thanks. I went blank on that. Ok, after a long time of fixing shit, my map corrupted and I had to get the latest compiled map cause I didn't have a backup, so i decompiled an older version, just set me back slightly but I think I should be ok now that I know what I'm making. Thanks Again, I'll keep everyone posted.
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Yin and yang -,- thats my ingame name lol i think the map is a awesome idea i can imagine a hospital map too i mean that makes a lot of sense
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I need help with something, I'm adding objectives in my map, I want a prop such as a battery that when i plug it into i.e: generator or something, it opens a door. How can I do that like the deathmaps with the dynamite and soap, the baby too.
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I need help with something, I'm adding objectives in my map, I want a prop such as a battery that when i plug it into i.e: generator or something, it opens a door. How can I do that like the deathmaps with the dynamite and soap, the baby too.
mmm im bored, im make tut and post hang on.
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mmm im bored, im make tut and post hang on.
yay :) i would like to know how too
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http://forum.randomgs.co.cc/index.php/topic,2647.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.co.cc/index.php/topic,2647.0.html)
heres my tut hab funb oollolo i hate this crappy keyboard. took me ages to do just cus i had to smash every key 2 times before it would show up
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Hey quick update, everything's going great, I'm steadily progressing and It all looks great and with constant testing, I see no problems *yet* BUT, I started to work with the "EMERGENCY" Lettering above the entrance. Yes, I finished them and I was VERY pleased with the result, but whenever I compile it later on to test progress, It seems everytime it's re-compiled the cuts i made in the letters keep coming back. For example: The "G" in emergency, I made a square in sdk, cut it up, curves around edges and all, cut out the center and it looked great, but in garry's mod, I load the map and there's half of the cuts I made are back. so It's still a filled-in "G" on the sign. But thats not what I'm worried about, I just now have to finish making all of the patients rooms, and secrets and shit blah blah blah. I even WAS going to show a quick fly-thru of the map with a video, but HA nope, you'll just have to wait to be surprised. (I really hope rnd will love this map as much as the present favorites)
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Hey quick update, everything's going great, I'm steadily progressing and It all looks great and with constant testing, I see no problems *yet* BUT, I started to work with the "EMERGENCY" Lettering above the entrance. Yes, I finished them and I was VERY pleased with the result, but whenever I compile it later on to test progress, It seems everytime it's re-compiled the cuts i made in the letters keep coming back. For example: The "G" in emergency, I made a square in sdk, cut it up, curves around edges and all, cut out the center and it looked great, but in garry's mod, I load the map and there's half of the cuts I made are back. so It's still a filled-in "G" on the sign. But thats not what I'm worried about, I just now have to finish making all of the patients rooms, and secrets and shit blah blah blah. I even WAS going to show a quick fly-thru of the map with a video, but HA nope, you'll just have to wait to be surprised. (I really hope rnd will love this map as much as the present favorites)
if you need textures i can do them ima vtf/vmt king
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How do I add zombie gas and zombie spawnpoints? are they entities or not?
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you can add zombie gasses with the entity info_zombie_gasses (just put down an entity and put that in the search box then hit enter)
but i wouldnt recommend it since the gamemode puts zombie gasses around info_player_zombie anyway
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Really? ok cool, but yeah, the info_player_zombie isn't in my list either, do I just type that and place the entitie?
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yeah a the little yellow circle wih a guy pointing should come up, or you can just decomp another zs map and copy paste
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What's a recommended strength amount for breakable shit? It's not just me breaking shit like it is when I'm testing everything. I'm scared if I just set something I think is right it may be too strong or too weak.
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also.. I was trying to make a mirror. Is that possible?
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if you have unlimited ammo for pistols then I would suggest 500-1000.
for melee weapons around 200 to 500.
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uh.. great. So today I pretty much finished a big section and needed to test it out. so.. I went to compile it. now the past couple times compiling it's gotten REALLY slow near the end. but today It made it to 9... "yes with 3 dots" and each dot was taking almost 20 minutes.. but that last few percentages took 4 hours and STILL didn't finish. At this time my room was scorching. I was sweating like a pig and thought about how hard my pc was working.. so i checked my digital thermometer on the front of my cpu. it was 91 degrees and rising. so I was like fuck this and switched off the power, ripped off the side and put a fan right next to my tower and let it sit all day. So. i had all day to think about it and I think what I'll have to do is just delete my custom backdrop (which was sooo perfect...) :( and replace it with a simple 3d skybox. figure that could help.. maybe i can replicate my backdrop. but it sucks this shit happens lol. Any suggestions before i do something that will possibly delay my map even more?
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Ok, so nevermind my last comment, i just went through with it, it's not bad. shit, it's actually looking pretty good, and I'm compiling with both options checked "fast" and it just builds mah face lights and thats it. But here are some pictures I GUESS I'll give you. this is almost nothing of the map tho.
Skybox, introduction to map; (Human Spawn)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x23/man_withtheplan0652/outdoorskybox.jpg)
Humans Can't Hide Everywhere
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x23/man_withtheplan0652/zs_hospital20009.jpg)
Morgue, Basement, Zombie Spawn
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x23/man_withtheplan0652/zs_hospital20008.jpg)
Patients are ensured safety
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x23/man_withtheplan0652/zs_hospital20007.jpg)
Deviant, stay to the left
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x23/man_withtheplan0652/zs_hospital20006.jpg)
Cafeteria
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x23/man_withtheplan0652/zs_hospital20001.jpg)
Cafeteria Food...
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x23/man_withtheplan0652/zs_hospital20003.jpg)
Representing...
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x23/man_withtheplan0652/zs_hospital20000.jpg)
And this is just something I wanted to show...
My awesome fabric work. (Curtain wrinkles)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x23/man_withtheplan0652/Patientsroom.jpg)
Don't think the map's done. I showed you a couple things. Thumbs up, but I'm not done, I've got a bit more to do (hoping my computer wont fry) but I'm working very hard and very persistently, I'm just updating you guys, (yeah I wanted everything to be a surprise but I didn't show you too much.) anyway let me know what you think so far and any tips of where to go next.
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KEWL SHIZ BRO U SHOUD BROADCAST SO I GET MAP ORGASM :>
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lol @ the displacments on the first screenshot, make them a bit smaller they look stretched
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try making the texture size for those skybox mountains smaller, or maybe just smooth them down a little.
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Win win win win.
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now here is my major problem, duno what to do, when im directly under the light its like this (good and lit)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x23/man_withtheplan0652/untitled-4.jpg)
but when you back up a little to where your NOT directly under the light, it like this (horse shit lighting)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x23/man_withtheplan0652/untitled1.jpg)
help please?
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I don't see anything wrong?
On iPod btw
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mmmmm mebe try making sure your light isnt inside the prop?
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I really can't wait to play this.... :U
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whatever fk it. i took the light out lol. MAPS DONE NEW THREAD W/ INCOMING!!!! oh and magic, i need you now
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whatever fk it. i took the light out lol. MAPS DONE NEW THREAD W/ INCOMING!!!! oh and magic, i need you now
He is asleep now.
i know coz i am rapeing him >:].
Nah,jk.
But he is asleep bcuz its 5:14 AM.
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http://forum.randomgs.co.cc/index.php/topic,2970.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.co.cc/index.php/topic,2970.0.html)
there you go, its done. there's the thread for it.
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He is asleep now.
i know coz i am rapeing him >:].
Nah,jk.
But he is asleep bcuz its 5:14 AM.
lol i was in bed, but i was awake, on my iPod xD
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nice map!
P.S., Magic, i think someone raped you in your sleep.
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nice map!
P.S., Magic, i think someone raped you in your sleep.
:-\
lawl.
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nice map!
P.S., Magic, i think someone raped you in your sleep.
wat
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Magic, i think someone raped you in your sleep.
wtf lawl