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Sabb:
New admins.
RND really needs some promotions now especially. I can't really stress this enough. Now that Moo is gone ESPECIALLY, there are really few admins that are active. On the servers, Jman and SMasters are the only ones that I really see on the servers anymore. Peetah does too, and Tech and Yomo, Jim occasionally, etc, but mostly only in wire, which usually doesn't need admins. At least not nearly as much as the other servers do. I'm not saying that any of them shouldn't be admin because they're inactive, but I do think this is the perfect reason if any to start considering more promotions. No, I'm not making this because I want admin, though I do, hence my app being posted, but I really think it's best for RND to get some more admins right now. A lot of people have complained to me over Steam saying that it looks like RND is dying out and such. Having some new admins to help with the servers, forums, bans, etc, just everything, will seriously help IMO. Since Moo has left, there's a lot more room for improvement now as I see. Applications, bans, etc, aren't being handled as well as I would say Moo did. I'm not blaming this on anyone or anything, but just pointing it out with a possible solution.
Thoughts?

Deacon:

--- Quote from: Sabb on October 06, 2011, 11:35:00 AM ---New admins.
RND really needs some promotions now especially. I can't really stress this enough. Now that Moo is gone ESPECIALLY, there are really few admins that are active. On the servers, Jman and SMasters are the only ones that I really see on the servers anymore. Peetah does too, and Tech and Yomo, Jim occasionally, etc, but mostly only in wire, which usually doesn't need admins. At least not nearly as much as the other servers do. I'm not saying that any of them shouldn't be admin because they're inactive, but I do think this is the perfect reason if any to start considering more promotions. No, I'm not making this because I want admin, though I do, hence my app being posted, but I really think it's best for RND to get some more admins right now. A lot of people have complained to me over Steam saying that it looks like RND is dying out and such. Having some new admins to help with the servers, forums, bans, etc, just everything, will seriously help IMO. Since Moo has left, there's a lot more room for improvement now as I see. Applications, bans, etc, aren't being handled as well as I would say Moo did. I'm not blaming this on anyone or anything, but just pointing it out with a possible solution.
Thoughts?

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This sounds like another place for me to plug the "I support Sabb as admin" campaign. Cause I do. I agree with him; the only problem I see is that there still aren't enough VIPs...how are we supposed to find admins? We treat the VIP "privilege" like they carry the same weight as admin applications. Its like you guys are scarred from the Respected era, and the abuse that took place. Don't forget, people are always watching, now more than ever, and abuse like that cannot continue. I agree with Sabb; more admins are needed. BUT we are still suck on "VIP abuse". We need to find a way to do both, and soon. 

Sabb:

--- Quote from: Deacon on October 06, 2011, 12:09:12 PM ---This sounds like another place for me to plug the "I support Sabb as admin" campaign. Cause I do. I agree with him; the only problem I see is that there still aren't enough VIPs...how are we supposed to find admins? We treat the VIP "privilege" like they carry the same weight as admin applications. Its like you guys are scarred from the Respected era, and the abuse that took place. Don't forget, people are always watching, now more than ever, and abuse like that cannot continue. I agree with Sabb; more admins are needed. BUT we are still suck on "VIP abuse". We need to find a way to do both, and soon.

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I feel too lazy to type this out again, so I'ma just paste what I discussed with Jman.

.:RND`=- Jman: we need more VIPs right now, not admin i guess
Sabb: weve needed VIPs for ever
Sabb: but admins too
Sabb: right now we do need more admins
.:RND`=- Jman: after all last time you said "wow there's more admins than VIPs now"
Sabb: because VIPs cna only do so much ina  server
Sabb: it gets to a point aVIP cant really do shit

What I'm sating is that yes, more VIPs would be nice, they can manage smaller problems and hand out smaller consequences. Admins can deal with situations much better. Again, I'm in the midle of something so I don't really want to go into too much detail, but I think you get the point.

Don:
The problem right now is really a lack of active admins on some servers.

Wire has Peetah and Tech, but both of them just exclusively play on wire. To a certain extend the same goes for yomo.
For the other servers, the only really active ones are jman and SMasters. 2 admins for 3 servers(fretta, TTT, ZS) really isn't enough.

So yeah, I agree.

Deacon:
Yes, we need VIPs.
We also need admins, because contrary to popular belief, it can be quite difficult to kick someone. Most of the time, you can't gather the required evidence, and once you do, its not just a kick; it then becomes something you need to report instead, because 5 minutes is nothing. Especially to those who have grudges against us, or know that they can get away with ghosting and whatnot here, because they are never punished for it.

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