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Sabb:
Cake Face, DrOctagonnapus, no.

A good parent shouldn't have to lay a hand on their child.


A good parent is patient with their kid(s) and knows how to handle a situation without physically harming them or putting fear in them...
The whole putting fear in them part I really don't like, because it sounds more like trying to intimidate which creates a lot of resentment.

There's ways other than physically harming a child or putting your responsibilities and issues on someone else to deal with... (DrOctagonnapus)
Children learn not to do things when there are punishments for what they do. Physically harming them and scaring them is not the best way to do it, it's the quickest, easiest, and least responsible way.

DrOctagonnapus:
As your right it isnt right to abuse a child but FEAR is the only thing that keeps people in line. If they didnt worry about police they would steal and murder all the time. The fear of jail keeps people in line.. The fear of a parents reaction keeps children in line. I guess you didnt grow up in the south? Texas/florida its ok to hit your children but there is a fine line between punishments and abuse.. Its not ok to ABUSE a child but wacking them a few times on the butt with a belt goes a long way.

But if you dont like the violence thing refer to what i said last post.

Contact your local child services office.. They have the connections to get her help.. It does work. Google search Child Services <STATE> give them a call.. explain whats going on... I got picked on ALOT as a kid.  it got to the point i just said fuck it one day and started kicking some ass.. best believe i got my ass kicked half the time but i stood up for myself. You need to stand up for yourself. Show her who the older sibling is and respect. She will continue to walk all over you untill you lay down the rules.. Your pretty much putting your tail between your legs and giving her the power she is trying to get by fucking with you in all these ways. CALL CHILD SERVICES.

DrOctagonnapus:
::: If there is no fear... What is stopping her from doing whatever she wants... Hence there forth your problems. She has no fear..at least stand up for yourself.. Or are you going to let her beat you up?:::

Not to insult.

Sabb:
To be honest, I read the first line of the first post and the second post and TL;DR'd.

So, lets go over a few things here.
Starting with the fact that you -1 me for a difference of opinion.

I didn't insult you, or at least intend to, so -1'ing my posts just because I have a different point of view than you is simply juvenile.
So, really, you're probably too ignorant to listen to what I say and try to understand anything, based off the previous sentence, so I don't know why I'm arguing with you. But oh well. Might as well get my opinion across to other people.


Now lets talk about the fact that you seem not to know how to treat women...
Whether it's your sibling or not, physically abuse a girl like you're making it sound like you do, you're an automatic douche bag. Like, that's probably the most docuhey thing out there. (don't take this as I don't think women can't offend themselves or some shit)


And about the fear shit.
It's stupid.
Period.
Just stupid.

Basically I'll just repeat what I said in the previous post, because clearly you didn't get it.

A GOOD PARENT doesn't HAVE to necessarily inflict fear on their children...
Trying to get your children to fear you is only going to create a fuckload of resentment against you.
I'm also just using the parenting shit as an example. So don't take everything I say literally.

But anyways, proper parenting (or in your case... taking care of your sibling(s) and responsibility?) doesn't involve the parents trying to scare the shit out of their kids so they do what you want them to do.
You can still stand your ground and shit, but you don't have to do it by scaring them... it's an irresponsible, stupid, weak way of taking care of them. Like I said, you can still stand your ground and have a discipline child by using your brain and making punishments and still making it in another way somewhat unpleasant for the kid if they don't obey or some shit.

And even physical harm and fear won't always work.
The reason I hate people that think shit like that and act in such a way is because my father did shit like that, and he was a complete idiot, so he would try to scare the shit out of me and my brother and intimidate us, sometimes using physical force (can't think of a better way to say it) to try to get us to shut up or w/e the reason was, and in the end, it didn't work one tiny bit. Shit eventually happened between him and I before he was kicked out of the house, and now I haven't seen him or made any communication with him in over 3 years.

So you can understand why I have such a strong opinion on that kind of reasoning and justifications.

I'll also have you know, my mom has raised me most of my life (including while my father lived with us), and she's never laid a hand on me, and has never tried inflicting fear or what ever other stupid shit, and I think I came up pretty good.

Also, I'll repeat yet again, hopefully you'll read and make sense of what I say this time, PUSHING YOUR PROBLEMS ONTO OTHER PEOPLE ALSO DOES NOT HELP YOU ANY (child services). It only creates resentment between the two, and eventually it will not get the results you want in most cases.




/rant
/essay

Rocket50:
Along with Sabbath's speech/rant/essay:

Have you ever seen a parent's expression when they are beating their child? Is it ever sad, or ever distressed because of the fact that they must hurt their child in order to teach them a valuable lesson? No, it's always anger. How do I know? Being the asian child that I am, I was hit as an eight year old.

So let's face it. Parents, or Octagonapuses don't just hit children to teach them a lesson. Sure, they may argue so, but in reality, you're doing it out of blind rage. The 'teach the child a lesson' part, yeah, thats bullshit. It's a rationalization to justify the fact that they cannot control their childish temper so they lash it out in the form of an ass-beating.

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