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04/06/11 Application: Hotgreensoldier

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Schreii:
Great player, great candidate.

Always follows the server rules and would enforce them just fine.

Jman:
I'd like to start off by saying I have nothing against Hotgreen personally, but I am going to have to  :thumbsdown:.

I don't know about what everyone who +1'd has seen, but I've seen some things that are quite deeming in my opinion of a -1.

Here's a specific situation: In TTT the other day, Minic and I were playing when Hotgreen joined and noticed Minic was SAdmin. Hotgreen started sucking up to quite pitiful extents to him and I alike. Now, while sucking up isn't a reason to be denied VIP, however annoying and childish it is, my point is what happened after Minic left.

The map was ttt_krustykrab and hotgreen was getting tired of some little kids mic spamming, as everyone was as well. I, and mostly everyone else, muted these mic spamming children, while HotGreen chose the more immature, mingey approach. He decided to pick up a bunch of the hamburgers that are laying on the ground throughout the map and started smashing the people mic-spamming people/others who didn't do anything with it.

Though he didn't kill enough people for it to be considered mass rdm/prop kill, which meant I couldn't kick him, I'm basing this on the wise saying of "Two wrongs don't make a right."

When you're being minged, Guest/Reg/VIP/Admin or whatever you are, especially VIP+, you have to show the ability to take actions based on the rules and not take the law into your own hands and make your own rules. It's commonly known that mic spamming isn't kickable, so when he raged and started prop killing instead of muting like everyone else did, I was quickly dissapointed. On top of this, I've seen him lose his cool and flip out plenty of times in the past as well.

Now to point out a few things in his app:


--- Quote from: Tomcat on April 06, 2011, 05:56:02 PM ---Why I should be VIP
1.I play this server very often and like helping people with problems on the server.
2.I never stay mad at someone for long periods of time (I.E. A guy calls me a faggot, I may not be good time charlie's with the person for about 30 minutes, but I usually forget about it and try to become their friend.)
3.To attempt to subdue glitching and other exploits.
4.I like to joke around and am really friendly to anyone who is friendly with me.

--- End quote ---
The only thing that would even remotely have to do with VIP, is #3, while you don't need to be VIP to joke around, be friendly, or help people with problems. What I see this as is a kind of respect-seeking attempt. You think that if you're VIP people will love you, come to you for help, be nicer to you, etc. While this may be true, it is absolutely not a reason you should be a VIP in the least bit. Basically, this supports the fact I've been presented with no real evidence you could be trusted with VIP or deserve it.


--- Quote from: Tomcat on April 06, 2011, 05:56:02 PM ---Why I want to be VIP
Sometimes trying to tell someone that is minging with words cannot get them to stop. So when situations like these happen being a VIP can help, no I'm not talking about kicking on the first offense or saying STOP FKING DOING THAT in full caps. I mean asking them nicely and saying please. At many times only about 1 or 2 VIP's are on, if at all. When people realize this they may start minging and breaking the rules. Most of the time when people use Global Chat the VIP's or admins are busy with other things, or are just not on. Having people who are on most often and do not like to break the rules at times would help subdue this problem and I would like to fill this position.

--- End quote ---
To begin, I cannot tell if you're accusing the current VIPs of being inactive/not doing our job. Whether you are or you aren't, there's no reason you would have to be VIP to do this, yet again. If you see someone breaking rules and minging, get their steam id and report them.

Don:
I have to agree with jman on this one ...
While I haven't had any majorly bad and horrible experiences with Hotgreen, I haven't had any positive ones either - from my experience, he does get pissed off too easily with people, which could lead to him just kicking as soon as he disagrees with someone.
 :thumbsdown:

DannyDoss:
Okay, I'm not gonna lie when I saw the amount of  :thumbsup:'s that preceeded this I was kind of turned off to enter my honest opinion. But I will have to :thumbsdown: this. I agree with everything that Jman has said. I really don't think he is ready for VIP. I don't dislike him or anything. And don't take it personally HotGreen. I really just do not think you are ready.

Moo:

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