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cogsandspigots:
Not necessarily.
Human "immortality", as perceived by most scientific predictions, would be transferring your consciousness/soul into a computer. This means that you are still you, but the vessel you use to interact with the world has been changed. And this vessel is not indestructible, at some point it WILL be destroyed, time conquers all. When it is destroyed, your soul will then be left to be judged by a deity (I believe that it will be the Christian God, but to each his own). True immortality is not bound to something physical.


If the world has a bountiful surplus of resources and everyone can live life without need, would the situation be good (endless supplies have turned humanity into a greed-less populace who only want to follow their dreams and personalities are the real commodities) or bad (excess supplies have driven the world into decadence and boredom, leading to spikes in crimes and suicides)?


Could you guys put some explanation into your answers, please?

·UηİŦ··:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)I'd say it all depends on who you ask, at what "time", and in which place. Anything can happen if you give a simulation infinite resources.

 It's very possible in my mind that infinite anythings given to people like us (with the superpowers' "buy buy buy do do do sex sex sex eat eat eat happy happy happy" mindset, and the overpowering sensation of having more than enough possibly corrupting/blinding with bliss those who used to sleep in dirt) would majorly lead to a "giant homicidal hedonistic self-destructive buttfucktwister" that would probably never end if there were boundless resources.

 Think about it. How many people out there want to go around and do, everything?

 Blow stuff up? Live a life full of pleasure and pleasantries, only the finest? You'll have 7+ billion of those people, some lot of them will want to do what every human being usually tends to do when given power; control. It's almost hereditary, sometimes compulsory to want to order the environment in some shape or form (eg putting some sticks against each other to make a hut, then pimping the hut out with seashells you found on the beach, after you feel you are completely set).

 So now you have maybe... 3-4 billion (?) people wanting to control the entire planet right from the get-go, and everyone else with equal power. Some have had this kind of power for maybe a decade or two, and now that balance would shift. You could say that some men are more equal than others (eg a pioneering scientist with boundless resources vs a man who used to spend his life in a dumpster) but since we've been given boundless resources, it has to be assumed that if using the current model for society (us right now), before anyone goes off the rails, that the governing bodies may attempt to raise the global Human Development Index due to the Status Quo of the apparent, benevolent Superpowers... 3 times out of 5.

 Again, Obama could just decide to run a giant brothel using all of the supermodels in the world first thing first in this simulation, but generally there's an established moral pressure on people not to do that, so I'll try to argue the better of two states.

 Anyways, just imagine all that chaos. All minds trying to rope in the general consensus of reality as we make of it into some kind of fantasy or paradise, from their perspective. With all that power, at the same time.

 Then throw in all our other problems like biases and beliefs and concepts and our inability to not approximately gauge the actual truths if there even are any and what not and just

 aaa

 If anything, you'd be welcome to a physical representation of one notorious face of the internet where sliding scales of things... just happen. The most complete and unrestricted display of human aptitude, in any shape or form. White, Black, Gray, and maybe even some Orange. The population may actually manage to outpace the amount of human deaths among all the other lifeforms present (may not be the best kind of offspring though if everyone everything their every single fantasy). If there wasn't anything convincing me to not say the Earth would just be in such a state of disrepair that it would no longer be viable for anything, ever, I would say just that. But you pose the question of "if the Earth were to supply bountiful resources", which means you can't Wreck-It Ralph. Now, it may also mean that information could be as easy to obtain as breathing is usually easy to do, which may or may not let things play out differently... but unlikely.

 But, let's say it won't even if it should. I think that there is a slight possibility that, after maybe a really drastic and horrible age of what have you, everyone will become tired and burned-out from constantly being all they ever wanted to be, save for some individuals. That means eventually things would calm down, and whatever anyone did would practically not even matter or seem to exist in the minds of the many. Life would probably pan out, slow down and become goal-oriented again (though what goal one may have besides being human and achieving everything a human needs to achieve besides occupying all space ever is not something I can easily imagine for 200 billion people).

 Mind you it might be a backwards-ass society by then, and their concept of general good or benefit may differ. Like, "Optional Weak-Acid Bath Day".

 But you know what, anything could just even. People could just take those resources and rocket off from Earth into some unknown vector in space, maybe colonize Mars and utilize that infinite data to construct some kind of idyllic paradise- becoming a giant living computer. But it's unlikely. This is Earth post-iPhone 5 after all.
That's my take, and sometimes I have a tendency to be stupid... please read what I type not as fact, but as an opinion/onion.

What constitutes forever? Is forever truly infinite, or is 'forever' just the span of time in which something is able to consciously perceive it?

Osme:
Forever is until the universe reaches its point of maximum entropy (assuming...).

Assuming (any) religion is true, what is the reasonable origin of the proposed god?

coolzeldad:

--- Quote from: Degtyarev on October 24, 2013, 10:42:22 AM ---Assuming (any) religion is true, what is the reasonable origin of the proposed god?

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Assuming that; would supercede time ( no beginning/end || cause/effect logic applicable ) and space ( no bounds so no point is referenced ) and therefore impossible to quantify.

How could humans live for humanity and not threaten to destroy humanity ( rationalizing use of weapons vs not having them )? aka. Is the concept absolute peace possible while maintaining the ability for humans to act willfully and independently?

Osme:

--- Quote from: coolzeldad on October 24, 2013, 07:43:35 PM ---Assuming that; would supercede time ( no beginning/end || cause/effect logic applicable ) and space ( no bounds so no point is referenced ) and therefore impossible to quantify.

How could humans live for humanity and not threaten to destroy humanity ( rationalizing use of weapons vs not having them )? aka. Is the concept absolute peace possible while maintaining the ability for humans to act willfully and independently?

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Humanity as a race would have to be constantly rational and work together under a single omnipotent government that truly does work for the people, and has no corruption within it. Simply put, humans are dicks, therefor a reasonable state of peace isn't possible.

Reincarnation?

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