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saivon:
--- Quote from: Sabb on July 21, 2013, 09:18:28 PM ---No one ever said that's not the case. I only mentioned Starcraft because it has a somewhat similar playing principle as League where it's not focused on mouse precision, which was a reason previously mentioned for it to "not require skill."
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Except in starcraft 2 you need a mouse and keyboard not implying that takes skill or anything but as in league you need only a mouse I could literally through my keyboard out the window and probably still win a 1v1 I just feel like starcraft 2 over all does take a ton more skill then league in every way possible in stead of controlling 1 unit you have to control multiple units do multiple prong harass learn new builds adapt to certain situations so many things thus saying starcraft 2 takes more skill. I mean league of legends and take some skill like idk 2% but it literally comes no where close to starcraft 2 Spoiler (click to show/hide) sorry If I am sounding like a dick
Sabb:
--- Quote from: saivon on July 21, 2013, 09:25:11 PM ---Except in starcraft 2 you need a mouse and keyboard not implying that takes skill or anything but as in league you need only a mouse I could literally through my keyboard out the window and probably still win a 1v1 I just feel like starcraft 2 over all does take a ton more skill then league in every way possible in stead of controlling 1 unit you have to control multiple units do multiple prong harass learn new builds adapt to certain situations so many things thus saying starcraft 2 takes more skill. I mean league of legends and take some skill like idk 2% but it literally comes no where close to starcraft 2 Spoiler (click to show/hide) sorry If I am sounding like a dick
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Omg you are I just clearly implied that Starcrft takes more skill you are literally arguing with yourself LOL...
But no, that is stupid. If you think you can win a 1v1 (which isn't the main point of League) without a keyboard, then I will gladly test you on that. I also haven't played Starcraft but I know how the type of game works and I'm not certain but there are most likely buttons to press with the mouse on the in-game HUD or w.e just as there are in League. I remember playing Warcraft a long ass time ago and that's how it was, it's simply not practical which is the same situation as League. Which actually probably explains why I was so horrible at Warcraft because I was too lazy to learn the shortcuts and actually did just use my mouse lol.
saivon:
--- Quote from: Sabb on July 21, 2013, 10:17:33 PM ---Omg you are I just clearly implied that Starcrft takes more skill you are literally arguing with yourself LOL...
But no, that is stupid. If you think you can win a 1v1 (which isn't the main point of League) without a keyboard, then I will gladly test you on that. I also haven't played Starcraft but I know how the type of game works and I'm not certain but there are most likely buttons to press with the mouse on the in-game HUD or w.e just as there are in League. I remember playing Warcraft a long ass time ago and that's how it was, it's simply not practical which is the same situation as League. Which actually probably explains why I was so horrible at Warcraft because I was too lazy to learn the shortcuts and actually did just use my mouse lol.
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Fine then I shall choose the most imba champion in league and crush you with it just using my mouse I will literally disconnect my keyboard and crush you.
Infinimint:
All of the arguments in this thread are invalid as of now.
Comparing LoL and SC2 specifically in terms of skill is ridiculous. They both are entirely different in where their skills are derived and comparing them is pointless. StarCraft is meant to be a single-person strategy game whereas League of Legends is meant to be a multi-person battle arena. In StarCraft skill is measured on the performance of a single player, whereas League of Legends it is measured on the overall performance of a team.
Comparing them both is like comparing American Football and Wrestling (not the fake kind) and trying to say that one is harder than the other. While they are both physically demanding, they are very different from each other. They both can be difficult in their own way. If the players on the football team do not play well together, they will not succeed. If I wrestler does not perform well for himself, he will not succeed. However, notice how whenever a player switches to the other sport it is no longer as simple and easy?
The same goes with these two eSports, the transition between them is not as smooth as you'd expect. While StarCraft is more mechanically demanding and APM intensive, it doesn't mean shit if you can't work as a team and don't know how to build your champion properly. This goes without mentioning last-hitting, combos, etc. Yes, there are less buttons to press, but that is to be expected in a MOBA. This can also be turned around, while LoL requires vital teamwork skills, it doesn't mean shit if you can't strategize on your own in real-time, have strong mechanics, and highly refined micromanagement skills.
If you're going to compare the two, compare them for the games that they are and if you do or do not enjoy them. The argument of skill is neither comparable, arguable, nor relevant.
Sabb:
--- Quote from: Infinimint on July 21, 2013, 11:18:21 PM ---All of the arguments in this thread are invalid as of now.
Comparing LoL and SC2 specifically in terms of skill is ridiculous. They both are entirely different in where their skills are derived and comparing them is pointless. StarCraft is meant to be a single-person strategy game whereas League of Legends is meant to be a multi-person battle arena. In StarCraft skill is measured on the performance of a single player, whereas League of Legends it is measured on the overall performance of a team.
Comparing them both is like comparing American Football and Wrestling (not the fake kind) and trying to say that one is harder than the other. While they are both physically demanding, they are very different from each other. They both can be difficult in their own way. If the players on the football team do not play well together, they will not succeed. If I wrestler does not perform well for himself, he will not succeed. However, notice how whenever a player switches to the other sport it is no longer as simple and easy?
The same goes with these two eSports, the transition between them is not as smooth as you'd expect. While StarCraft is more mechanically demanding and APM intensive, it doesn't mean shit if you can't work as a team and don't know how to build your champion properly. This goes without mentioning last-hitting, combos, etc. Yes, there are less buttons to press, but that is to be expected in a MOBA. This can also be turned around, while LoL requires vital teamwork skills, it doesn't mean shit if you can't strategize on your own in real-time, have strong mechanics, and highly refined micromanagement skills.
If you're going to compare the two, compare them for the games that they are and if you do or do not enjoy them. The argument of skill is neither comparable, arguable, nor relevant.
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While I do appreciate the fair and unbiased opinion, no one's actually saying league is harder Saivon is literally arguing with himself. I do personally feel that Starcraft is harder however as I think there's a bit more that you need to pay attention to and those types of games at least were a bit more difficult for me to grasp and do decently at. However MOBA's were once the same too until I started understanding that so idk. But you are right, they require very different skills which is what I pointed out. It's hard to wage which requires more skill but I do think Starcraft does.
You could even argue that since it is a team effort you can depend more on your team sometimes anyhow, which I often see is the case in some players.
--- Quote from: saivon on July 21, 2013, 11:09:57 PM ---Fine then I shall choose the most imba champion in league and crush you with it just using my mouse I will literally disconnect my keyboard and crush you.
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Oh please,
please, please, please.
My account is SabbAfer please add me and prepare some extra tampons because you'll need them.
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