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Sabb:

--- Quote from: Prox on June 06, 2013, 02:40:58 PM ---So, you don't consider mental threat as a big enough threat? Also I didn't said that her attacking the news team was a good decision, but the provocation was there.
If I remember correctly, her daughter was killed, so do you really think that it does not have a deep impact on the mother? Do you think that for her it will be just as easy to "enjoy her day" as it would be to anyone else, especially if there will be people who will try to get as much information and then broadcast it to the public? Journalists should know when to back off instead of going for all that they can get and then play the victims role if something bad happens to them. I am not saying that it's their fault entirely, but they contributed to the situation none the less then the mother did.

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Where is there a "mental threat"?

--- Quote from: Prox on June 06, 2013, 02:40:58 PM ---If I remember correctly, her daughter was killed, so do you really think that it does not have a deep impact on the mother?


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No, it does, as I already stated. That doesn't to me justify barbaric behaviour. The point is that she made the decision to allow them to bother her whereas the other, more logical, civil, and effective option would have been to ignore them and tell them to leave respectfully and if they were to harass them at the doorstep or something, to then call the cops. Not throw rocks at their had with the intention of an injury, or threaten them with pitbulls and a bat... And as I said, they're not actually unavoidable. And I don't see that this woman was being disrespectful of the mother. She's trying to do her job and if she comes across as rude then I think it's pretty unavoidable but necessary sometimes. Think of yourself in her position in that career. It doesn't really seem like they were harassing the mother, but they approached her with information and wanted an interview. That's the only way to go about doing so, really. Sure though, they could obviously be annoying and at a time like that people are going to act out more than usual. Yet still, I don't see that her threats were necessary.


Also note what she says at the end.
"And get away from my house... you dumb white bitch!"
Why would you even want to defend any type of person who behaves that way?

Supertoaster:

--- Quote from: TehHank on June 06, 2013, 04:30:41 AM ---I'm on the mother of the victim side of this, It may seem a bit extreme, but if you child died in a murder, the press has no right to barge in and take interviews when the victims are very emotional to the event, and so their personal space has to respected.

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apparently the daughter didnt die

she got  shot and recovered and was just released from the hospital the same day

Prox:

--- Quote from: Sabb on June 06, 2013, 03:00:24 PM ---Where is there a "mental threat"?

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The whole story was going to be reported to the public and if that person doesn't want that, then it's a mental threat, at least I would consider it if it were done to me.

--- Quote from: Sabb on June 06, 2013, 03:00:24 PM ---No, it does, as I already stated. That doesn't to me justify barbaric behaviour. The point is that she made the decision to allow them to bother her whereas the other, more logical, civil, and effective option would have been to ignore them and tell them to leave respectfully and if they were to harass them at the doorstep or something, to then call the cops. Not throw rocks at their had with the intention of an injury, or threaten them with pitbulls and a bat... And as I said, they're not actually unavoidable. And I don't see that this woman was being disrespectful of the mother. She's trying to do her job and if she comes across as rude then I think it's pretty unavoidable but necessary sometimes.

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--- Quote from: Prox on June 06, 2013, 02:40:58 PM ---...do you really think that it does not have a deep impact on the mother? Do you think that for her it will be just as easy to "enjoy her day" as it would be to anyone else, especially if there will be people who will try to get as much information and then broadcast it to the public? Journalists should know when to back off instead of going for all that they can get and then play the victims role if something bad happens to them. I am not saying that it's their fault entirely, but they contributed to the situation none the less then the mother did.

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--- Quote from: Sabb on June 06, 2013, 03:00:24 PM ---Think of yourself in her position in that career. It doesn't really seem like they were harassing the mother, but they approached her with information and wanted an interview. That's the only way to go about doing so, really. Sure though, they could obviously be annoying and at a time like that people are going to act out more than usual. Yet still, I don't see that her threats were necessary.

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I doubt that I could be a good journalist since I don't really like bugging people like journalists usually do.
Also keep in mind that I'm not saying that what the mother did was right, I'm trying to say that due to these circumstances it is wrong to hate her for it.


--- Quote from: Sabb on June 06, 2013, 03:00:24 PM ---Also note what she says at the end.
"And get away from my house... you dumb white bitch!"
Why would you even want to defend any type of person who behaves that way?

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The majority of the population swears at each other, ones do more then the others but it does happen so I don't view this as a big deal at all. So what if she said it on TV to the reporter? Who are they that insulting them should be considered worse then doing so to an average person?
Why would I defend her? Because you're trying to make it look like it's all her fault entirely under the justification that journalists were just doing their job.

Sabb:

--- Quote from: Prox on June 07, 2013, 04:40:36 AM ---The whole story was going to be reported to the public and if that person doesn't want that, then it's a mental threat, at least I would consider it if it were done to me.I doubt that I could be a good journalist since I don't really like bugging people like journalists usually do.
Also keep in mind that I'm not saying that what the mother did was right, I'm trying to say that due to these circumstances it is wrong to hate her for it.
The majority of the population swears at each other, ones do more then the others but it does happen so I don't view this as a big deal at all. So what if she said it on TV to the reporter? Who are they that insulting them should be considered worse then doing so to an average person?
Why would I defend her? Because you're trying to make it look like it's all her fault entirely under the justification that journalists were just doing their job.

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It's pretty clear at this point that there's not much more to say considering you're mostly not actually refuting points I make and are either missing my perspective or simply disagree with it, so it'd best be left as is.
I simply don't see this person as a respectful one. At no point did I say it was entirely her fault however, as I said several times that the reporters clearly also have a position in this but not one that to me comes close to justifying trashy, violent behaviour.

Prox:

--- Quote from: Sabb on June 07, 2013, 09:54:36 AM ---It's pretty clear at this point that there's not much more to say considering you're mostly not actually refuting points I make and are either missing my perspective or simply disagree with it, so it'd best be left as is.

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I am refuting your points, you probably just simply disagree with it just like I do with yours.

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