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Sabb:

--- Quote from: Jhon on January 11, 2013, 03:36:52 AM ---Just so you know, there's no such thing.  You simply don't eat enough, you might think you do, but you don't =P

At the beginning it's hard to eat 1,000 calories more than you burn, but when the weight you lift increases and the more you get used to eating so much, you'll be able to do it with no problems. I'm sure you'll gain weight if you do that.
I also have high metabolism and I used to weigh 48 KG at 1.75 meters, but after 2 months of exercising and eating properly I went up to 55KG and after another 2 months or so up to 57 KG. I didn't really get the chance to exercise lately so I'm down to 56 KG now. Before that I was exercising for about a year, I wasn't persistent and even when I was I wasn't eating enough so my weight barely increased.

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I don't believe that whole calorie thing is really true. If you're eating more than you're burning then you're basically just growing bulks of fat, not muscle. Your muscles need a lot of protein to develop though, and fat, but it burns the fat. So saying "you should eat 1k calories more than you burn" isn't true. You'll just need a lot more calories depending on your lean muscle mass. And your metabolism significantly increases from working out naturally because it needs the protein, vitamins, carbs fat, all that shit to repair and maintain muscle. But yea, if you're actually eating 1000 more calories than you're burning, then you're just building up fat. Keep in mind that your body burns energy while recovering from workouts as well so it might seem like you're eating more calories than is being burned, but actually your body is probably just requiring more energy after workouts in order for it to recover. So yea, might not be that many more calories than you're burning but you will probably be eating a lot more calories than before. Unfortunately I'm not doing this yet though because I want to get more lean first so I'm usually eating less than 1000 calories a day and still trying to work out. Definitely makes it more challenging but I'll be able to eat more and workout more once I've lost a bit more.

But yea for Hideo I'm assuming you're eating like 1000 - 1500 calories a day unless your metabolism is really high. You're going to want to bump that up to at least 2000 probably 2500 especially on workout days. Once you're gaining a lot of muscle you'll notice how significantly your metabolism will grow however, cause you'll really NEED to eat more. It's definitely a noticeable change, or at least for me.

Travelsonic:
All my strength is lower body - walk a lot [many miles per week, >12 easily], play music games like DDR, ITG/ITG2, Pump it Up on the hardest difficulty for hours on end every week, ride my bike a lot when it isn't the dead of winter, and for a while took up kickboxing - my legs can consistently press > 200lbs.

It's finding time to work on the upper body that seems damn near impossible for me.   >:(

Jhon:

--- Quote from: Sabb on January 11, 2013, 09:16:39 AM ---I don't believe that whole calorie thing is really true. If you're eating more than you're burning then you're basically just growing bulks of fat, not muscle. Your muscles need a lot of protein to develop though, and fat, but it burns the fat. So saying "you should eat 1k calories more than you burn" isn't true. You'll just need a lot more calories depending on your lean muscle mass. And your metabolism significantly increases from working out naturally because it needs the protein, vitamins, carbs fat, all that shit to repair and maintain muscle. But yea, if you're actually eating 1000 more calories than you're burning, then you're just building up fat. Keep in mind that your body burns energy while recovering from workouts as well so it might seem like you're eating more calories than is being burned, but actually your body is probably just requiring more energy after workouts in order for it to recover. So yea, might not be that many more calories than you're burning but you will probably be eating a lot more calories than before. Unfortunately I'm not doing this yet though because I want to get more lean first so I'm usually eating less than 1000 calories a day and still trying to work out. Definitely makes it more challenging but I'll be able to eat more and workout more once I've lost a bit more.

But yea for Hideo I'm assuming you're eating like 1000 - 1500 calories a day unless your metabolism is really high. You're going to want to bump that up to at least 2000 probably 2500 especially on workout days. Once you're gaining a lot of muscle you'll notice how significantly your metabolism will grow however, cause you'll really NEED to eat more. It's definitely a noticeable change, or at least for me.

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I don't just "believe", if you want to maximize your workout's efficiency on your muscles growth you'll have to eat more than you need even if it means fattening up a lil bit. That's why bodybuilders usually do it in cycles, one cycle they gain weight, fat and muscles, the other they lose weight and fat.
I've just seen so many results of people who did follow this and not "bro-science" + seen it on my body. It's true that you can maintain low body fat if you consume about 100-200 calories more than your RMR while the biggest meal is after the exercise, but is a bet and you won't maximize the efficiency of your workout that way. It's simply easier to just do it in cycles.

Btw, I burn about 2,500 calories at workout days, which means I need to consume about 3,200-3,500 calories. I do it "clean" by eating only healthy stuff and so I gain less than people who do it "dirty" and eat pizzas all day.

HideoKojima:
I didn't* work out for like 3 or 4 days. I felt guilty... but did yesterday. so I feels better. :3



--- Quote from: TehHank on January 11, 2013, 12:36:31 AM ---Due to my high metabolism, I don't grow fat. :/

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Samez. Shit sucks lol.  But just cause a person isn't fat doesn't mean they are healthy.

( However all I (use) to eat is complete junk food, pizza and other unhealthy shit and my doctors said I'm completely fine in health weirdly. )


--- Quote from: Jhon on January 11, 2013, 03:36:52 AM ---Just so you know, there's no such thing.  You simply don't eat enough, you might think you do, but you don't =P

At the beginning it's hard to eat 1,000 calories more than you burn, but when the weight you lift increases and the more you get used to eating so much, you'll be able to do it with no problems. I'm sure you'll gain weight if you do that.
I also have high metabolism and I used to weigh 48 KG at 1.75 meters, but after 2 months of exercising and eating properly I went up to 55KG and after another 2 months or so up to 57 KG. I didn't really get the chance to exercise lately so I'm down to 56 KG now. Before that I was exercising for about a year, I wasn't persistent and even when I was I wasn't eating enough so my weight barely increased.

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Every since I actually starting being active I've been hungry as fuck 24/7 lol

Jhon:

--- Quote from: HideoKojima on January 14, 2013, 10:44:30 AM ---I did work out for like 3 or 4 days. I felt guilty... but did yesterday. so I feels better. :3


Samez. Shit sucks lol.  But just cause a person isn't fat doesn't mean they are healthy.

( However all I (use) to eat is complete junk food, pizza and other unhealthy shit and my doctors said I'm completely fine in health weirdly. )

Every since I actually starting being active I've been hungry as fuck 24/7 lol

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Yeah, that's what I like about exercising ;P  Take the chance to eat tons of tasty food while you can xD
After you finish building up muscle mass, you'll need to watch your diet more to lose the fat and it's hard when you're fucking hungry because of exercises.

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