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Ἆxule:
Personally, I prefer to not kill the baby. However, I can understand why people are for it.

Most of the abortions I assume would be from teenagers who are still in high school or rape victims. Yeah, I believe abortion is wrong, but I'm not going to tell these people that they can't do it purely because it's "wrong". I wouldn't want to be dealing with having a kid in high school dealing with the choice of dropping out or working and school. And I definitely wouldn't want to have a child because of a rape incident.

Point being, who am I to say that a woman can or can't do what she wants to do with her body?

Frank:
I think it should only be taken into account in cases of rape. Because if you got pregnant because the condom broke or you thought it'd be fun to fuck without one, then get fucked by the consequences, bitch and dawg.

Prox:
I think it should be allowed.

Xrain:
I think abortion is wrong.

First, aborting tends to be more dangerous than going through with the regular pregnancy. The clinics often have little oversight, substandard conditions, and lack of qualification.


The biggest point is, there is no real reason to need to go through with an abortion. If you are too-young/ a victim of rape, put the kid up for adoption. There are plenty of people in this world who for whatever reason cant have kids of their own. And would love to be able to adopt a kid (There is actually a shortage of kids available for adoption). Wanting to get rid of someone just for your own sake of mind is pretty fucking selfish. If its a case of continuing the pregnancy is going to kill the mother/kid, it really isn't an abortion at that point, it's a miscarriage. Since the whole concept of an abortion is killing a fetus that if left to its own volition would develop into a healthy person.

The thing is, the kid isn't the mothers possession. No more than you guys are your parent's possession. Your parents cant just one day get tired of you, and bring you out back and put a bullet in your head. They would go to jail, or be put to death. Yes there is the difference that you have had life experiences, met people, made freinds etc. And a fetus really hasn't had the chance to do any of that. But in our system of law, we tend to find crimes against children/elderly people, much more heinous that crimes against a healthy adult, since the children/elderly have a much reduced capacity to defend themselves. (They are both bad, but one tends to get more news than another). By that standard intentionally harming an unborn child should be the most grievous crime of all.

There are already many cases in law of where a pregnant woman gets murdered, the perpetrator gets charged with first degree murder for both the mother and the unborn child. Why should it be any different, just because the mother doesn't want to deal with the hassle?

This really has just become a battle of semantics, figuring out when to call someone "alive" is pretty irrelevant. As there is really no right answer.


I don't agree with the people who go and firebomb abortion clinics either, as that is completely the wrong method to solve the problem. But I understand why they do. Think of it this way, if you truly believed that there were buildings in which mass murdering of children was taking place, is it really that crazy to want to do something about it?

Prox:

--- Quote from: Xrain on October 16, 2012, 09:50:34 AM ---The biggest point is, there is no real reason to need to go through with an abortion. If you are too-young/ a victim of rape, put the kid up for adoption. There are plenty of people in this world who for whatever reason cant have kids of their own. And would love to be able to adopt a kid (There is actually a shortage of kids available for adoption).

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I don't know how it is in other countries but at least here, it's nothing like that.


--- Quote from: Xrain on October 16, 2012, 09:50:34 AM ---Wanting to get rid of someone just for your own sake of mind is pretty fucking selfish.

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That may not always be the case as if a teenager would get pregnant she would feel a lot of pressure from her parents and other teenagers and some of them can be very cruel which could easily cause depression, which could even possibly lead to suicide.

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