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9/11 School discussion
cogsandspigots:
--- Quote from: Cake Faice on September 12, 2012, 06:04:44 PM ---
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Sir, 9/11 happened because some crazy people hated America.
They would have done the same wether they were Muslim or not.
Rocket50:
--- Quote from: cogsandspigots on September 12, 2012, 07:33:35 PM ---Sir, 9/11 happened because some crazy people hated America.
They would have done the same wether they were Muslim or not.
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You forgot to mention the belief that killing themselves in the name of their religion would grant them to exist in heaven with virgins for eternity
--- Quote from: Frank on September 12, 2012, 07:21:16 PM ---You do know that with a world without religion there wouldn't be USA either, right?
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Elaborate
cogsandspigots:
--- Quote from: Rocket50 on September 12, 2012, 07:35:47 PM ---Except, they believed that killing themselves in the name of their religion would get them in to heaven with virgins for eternity
Elaborate
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That is radicalism. Moderation in everything is key. They applied to Islam, which promotes peace and toleration of others (nice going Taliban). That is what happens in most cases of "religion causing wars and evils". It is people twisting scripture just so that it fits their own sick goals. The Crusades? The kings wanted that land. The Holocaust? Hitler needed an easy scapegoat. 9/11? Al Queda needed a good excuse to keep the people of their country from turning against them.
As for Frank's point, he is right. The Puritain ideals of hard work and unity would help the colonies to unite against the British during the 1700s. Without these ideals, we would likely still be a set of British colonies.
Rocket50:
--- Quote from: cogsandspigots on September 12, 2012, 07:46:58 PM ---That is radicalism. Moderation in everything is key. They applied to Islam, which promotes peace and toleration of others (nice going Taliban). That is what happens in most cases of "religion causing wars and evils". It is people twisting scripture just so that it fits their own sick goals. The Crusades? The kings wanted that land. The Holocaust? Hitler needed an easy scapegoat. 9/11? Al Queda needed a good excuse to keep the people of their country from turning against them.
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You completely ignored the point. If religion did not exist, Al Queda would never have been able to give the radicals an incentive to go and bomb the WTC because frankly, the only reason why they would go and kill themselves was because of the promise that it was what god wanted and it would grant them eternity in heaven.
With virgins. It would be very hard to find someone who hated America enough to go and end their existence on the side of a skyscraper.
--- Quote from: cogsandspigots on September 12, 2012, 07:46:58 PM ---As for Frank's point, he is right. The Puritain ideals of hard work and unity would help the colonies to unite against the British during the 1700s. Without these ideals, we would likely still be a set of British colonies.
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It doesn't take religion to understand the value of hard work and unity. And it wasn't religion that made the colonies discontent with Britain, it was their lack of support. Canada never followed the American route to autonomy from Britian, and we essentially accomplished the same goals without the war.
Prox:
My school didn't care.
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