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Scientific proof of God? Atheism vs Theism
Rocket50:
--- Quote from: Ἆxule on August 04, 2012, 01:04:09 AM ----Nonsense. The Bible and other religious books are a great source to adopt values for life and give you guidelines of rules to follow (i.e. The 10 commandments).
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Lol. Have you READ the bible? There's plenty of racism, sexism and support for slavery in there, but conveniently, churches choose to omit all the bad parts. (All you women better shut the fuck up, as the bible says you cannot talk until permitted by a man.)
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You CANT disprove or prove god, but, you CAN disprove certain religions. The earliest bible story was to have been estimated to have happened around 5000 years ago, and in Genesis, god creates man directly after the creation of the earth. This puts the earliest man and the earth, according to the bible, to be dated at around 5000 Years old and thanks to carbon dating, and the undisputable fact of millions of years of continental drift because of the plant remains found in Antartica, this is wrong.
Supertoaster:
I don't know what I am. It's sort of Agnostic and Deist, not sure which.
I believe there is some kind of god/higher deity but not religion.
This Toast:
Theism here.
I'm pure catholic.
1. The bible was written by real witnesses of Christ.
2. Saints also, we're a living instrument of God.
3. Science can never answer everything and every phenomenon that happens.
Rocket50:
--- Quote from: This Toast on August 04, 2012, 06:21:06 AM ---
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1. What do you make of the things said in the bible supporting sexism, racism, anti-homosexualism, slavery, and intolerance for other religions
- When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. Exodus 21:20-21
- If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT
- Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." Corinthians 14:34-35
2. How come modern day religions do not follow the entire bible, yet call the bible the ultimate word of god.
-"You must not wear clothing made of wool and linen woven together." Deuteronomy 22:11
-"And since you are to regard them as unclean, you must not eat their meat; you must regard their carcasses as unclean. 12 Anything living in the water that does not have fins and scales is to be regarded as unclean by you." Leviticus 11:11-12
-"In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;" Timothy 2:9 - 15
3. Again, the earliest bible story was estimated to have happened 6000 years ago, (If you take the birth of the people in Gensis, and add up the number of years between them until a birth that was actually dated, Abraham," it comes to about 6000 to maximium of 10000. According to Genesis, the earth was created at the exact instance of the universe, (Genesis 1:1-2) and was finished with life within six days of the creation of the universe, (Genesis 31) now, this conflicts with a number of things.
a. It takes millions of years for light to reach earth from the stars
b. Carbon dating tells us the bones left over hugely surpass this
c. Because of radioactive decay, it's impossible that the earth was created at the exact instance of the universe
d. Continental drift, over the periods of millions of years, put dead tropical organic matter in Antartica when there was still the Pangaea and would be impossible to have happened within the 6000 years of our supposed existance
-When reconnecting our continents together, mountain ranges line up, the areas containing types of dinosaurs that are seperated today realign
e. According to the life cycle of a sun such of ours, our sun has been there for millions of years
cogsandspigots:
I always interpreted the story of Genesis as a metaphor for God's relation with mankind.
Also, does NO ONE realize that the whole point of the New Testament was that it nullified all the rules of the Old Testament (homosexuality included) except the 10 Commandments?
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