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coolzeldad:
http://steamcommunity.com/id/LeoMarr/

also, has vac bans on record

i would say he should probably be watched closely if anythingz

Prox:

--- Quote from: Snivy M.D. on May 18, 2012, 06:55:46 PM ---Coolz has stated previously that while it can be used as evidence, you can't ban someone over another servers ban/reports.

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--- Quote from: Sabb on May 18, 2012, 07:15:18 PM ---I was too lazy to say this.
I've had to explain this over a million times ._..

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--- Quote from: Pike on May 18, 2012, 07:34:23 AM ---After looking at... ...this thread and peoples reactions when he joined the server

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If all these ban records and people complaints are not enough proof for you, then I don't know what are you thinking...
   
   While bans on other servers are not a critical evidence but think about it, if he was hacking on all of those servers, then why wouldn't he on ours? Not to mention that everyone that I suspected of hacking who had a record like this on previous servers were hacking on our servers as well(stronghold taught me very well).

And seriously, stop with the "if I didn't see it, it didn't happen" logic, it should no longer be considered when many people are complaining(once the hacker joined the server, almost everyone who talks/types instantly pointed out that he is a hacker) about the hacker.
 
   So I have to say it yet again, just ban him or for the sake of our own servers do your duties as an admin(I'm not talking about every admin) and get on the damn servers at least sometimes, god damn it because WE, VIPs and lower ranked members are most likely going to have to deal with all the trouble  getting proof and you know, its not very fun to spectate some guy that you know for sure is hacking for 30 minutes just to get a few seconds of footage of him hacking...


Sabb:

--- Quote from: Pike on May 19, 2012, 12:33:26 AM ---

If all these ban records and people complaints are not enough proof for you, then I don't know what are you thinking...
   
   While bans on other servers are not a critical evidence but think about it, if he was hacking on all of those servers, then why wouldn't he on ours? Not to mention that everyone that I suspected of hacking who had a record like this on previous servers were hacking on our servers as well(stronghold taught me very well).

And seriously, stop with the "if I didn't see it, it didn't happen" logic, it should no longer be considered when many people are complaining(once the hacker joined the server, almost everyone who talks/types instantly pointed out that he is a hacker) about the hacker.
 
   So I have to say it yet again, just ban him or for the sake of our own servers do your duties as an admin(I'm not talking about every admin) and get on the damn servers at least sometimes, god damn it because WE, VIPs and lower ranked members are most likely going to have to deal with all the trouble  getting proof and you know, its not very fun to spectate some guy that you know for sure is hacking for 30 minutes just to get a few seconds of footage of him hacking...

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You're trying to get admin/prove to people that you'd be a good admin, but this is an example of why no one's jumping on promoting you. You need to sit back and calmly watch shit before taking action. ONE person on this thread actually said that he was directly with the hacker at the time, and that's it. You said you just came and saw the reactions. With very little proof, VERY little, it's pretty much impossible for us to do anything. And no Prox, many times we have seen people hacking on other servers come to RND but actually not hacking here, because they enjoy the server. That's not that uncommon. Many have also stopped without any proof/first hand encounters with them hacking on the server.
And fyi, I often take into account what people are saying, how many people are suggesting a person is hacking, and of them how many's word is actually trustworthy. The reason I don't jump on bans right away necessarily with you, is because in many cases you've said that someone's hacking, when as I actually look at them, or get Xrain to check if they're using any hacks or not, that in fact, they're not. Not saying it's a big deal, but sometimes you seem to be too quick to jump on the accusation bandwagon.

EDIT:
Also, our logic isn't "if I didn't see if it didn't happen", it's "if I didn't see it and there's no significant proof, there's nothing I can do".

Prox:

--- Quote from: Sabb on May 19, 2012, 11:09:51 AM ---You're trying to get admin/prove to people that you'd be a good admin, but this is an example of why no one's jumping on promoting you. You need to sit back and calmly watch shit before taking action.

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I'm sorry what? I was not even talking about that, so if you took that part where I said about inactive admins as me trying to prove my self as a good admin then you're wrong.


--- Quote from: Sabb on May 19, 2012, 11:09:51 AM ---ONE person on this thread actually said that he was directly with the hacker at the time, and that's it. You said you just came and saw the reactions. With very little proof, VERY little, it's pretty much impossible for us to do anything.

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Yes, when the hacker joined the server most of the people pointed out that he's a hacker. Do you think I'm lying?


--- Quote from: Sabb on May 19, 2012, 11:09:51 AM ---The reason I don't jump on bans right away necessarily with you, is because in many cases you've said that someone's hacking, when as I actually look at them, or get Xrain to check if they're using any hacks or not, that in fact, they're not. Not saying it's a big deal, but sometimes you seem to be too quick to jump on the accusation bandwagon.

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That is not correct. Firstly I suspect someone, secondly I watch them carefully and only then I go and assume that he is hacking, I never jump on conclusions without figuring out if the player is hacking for sure.



--- Quote from: Sabb on May 19, 2012, 11:09:51 AM ---Also, our logic isn't "if I didn't see if it didn't happen", it's "if I didn't see it and there's no significant proof, there's nothing I can do".

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If you would witness the same reactions when the hacker joins the server + vac banned + bans on previous servers, would that be a significant proof to you?

Sabb:

--- Quote from: Pike on May 19, 2012, 11:32:38 AM ---I'm sorry what? I was not even talking about that, so if you took that part where I said about inactive admins as me trying to prove my self as a good admin then you're wrong.
Yes, when the hacker joined the server most of the people pointed out that he's a hacker. Do you think I'm lying?
That is not correct. Firstly I suspect someone, secondly I watch them carefully and only then I go and assume that he is hacking, I never jump on conclusions without figuring out if the player is hacking for sure.

If you would witness the same reactions when the hacker joins the server + vac banned + bans on previous servers, would that be a significant proof to you?

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If I witnessed it, yes, but I didn't. I don't think you're lying either lol, but a lot of the times everyone on the servers jumps to the conclusion that a good player is hacking, when he is indeed not. So, I would need to know it's actually trustworthy/half intelligent people that are saying he's hacking. (I'm not saying anyone here isn't, but there still, is only one person that I have heard actually say he was with the hacker).

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