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Purple:

--- Quote from: Sabb on April 02, 2012, 04:48:12 AM ---I tl;dr'd past this point because I'm on my phone right now.... but I just want to say that I didn't mean to just belittle your entire work put into the comic. I'm just kind of disappointed that you played it off like you were making an original story for us. Never once when I talked to you, or on this thread aside from the tiny broad statement saying that you were using the idea from something else. I just think that you should have made it a lot more obvious... even with reading that spoiler, I still thought you were making a story for us, not just for the most part editing images from someone elses' work. I basically just feel almost lied to sort of. But anyways... wih that being said I don't think that you should stop making it. I still will enjoy it, I just wish you would have said exactly what you were doing from the start. (That tiny spoiler is quite broad... you should have just said that you were more or less adding our characters into a comic which was already made)

As for coolz, I slightly agree and disagree with the stuff you're saying. I'm sorry that it pretty much became an attack on Purple, but I think everyone was just upset because they weren't really specifically told what she was doing. And about the plaigirism thing... what she's doing is exact plaigirism lol. Yes, technically there are no original ideas because your ideas are alwaye based off of your experiences... but Purple directly took images from the other comic without permission to my understanding, and on top of that gave no direct credit to them... at least not enough. Not trying to attack Purple, I'm just saying that what she did really is completely plaigirism.


EDIT: The whole thing saying it was an April fools joke... was a joke. Not meant as sarcasm, just wanted to lighten the mood lol...

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My response in a nutshell, you should probably read my entire post and other posts made before saying things like that.

I did not play it off like it was my own story, I specifically mentioned Dangan Ronpa in the op even if it was a side note, and I also mentioned that if you had anything that would try to cause an argument to talk to me about it privately and avoid things like this. What I did was not plaigirism. Plaigirism is saying that "Yes this is all mine I made it all myself." which I did not say, nor imply it was.

If you wanted me to give the creators of the game more credit which I agree I should have gave them more, you could have talked to me about it in a private chat so that all of this could have been avoided.

and I'm sorely upset that none of you came to me first before trying to ruin the entire comic, especially you Cable, even though you only posted the link, you could have came to me and said "My friends we're talking about your comic and I got this link that I think it looks very similar to yours, care to explain?" before posting it and starting this. You have absolutely no excuse to what you did, you didn't even think for a second about me or how this could all have been avoided.



--Also, that "joke" you pulled Sabb, wasn't very friendly, it made me look like an idiot and I would like an apology.

Sabb:

--- Quote from: Purpal on April 02, 2012, 11:17:34 AM ---My response in a nutshell, you should probably read my entire post and other posts made before saying things like that.

I did not play it off like it was my own story, I specifically mentioned Dangan Ronpa in the op even if it was a side note, and I also mentioned that if you had anything that would try to cause an argument to talk to me about it privately and avoid things like this. What I did was not plaigirism. Plaigirism is saying that "Yes this is all mine I made it all myself." which I did not say, nor imply it was.

If you wanted me to give the creators of the game more credit which I agree I should have gave them more, you could have talked to me about it in a private chat so that all of this could have been avoided.

and I'm sorely upset that none of you came to me first before trying to ruin the entire comic, especially you Cable, even though you only posted the link, you could have came to me and said "My friends we're talking about your comic and I got this link that I think it looks very similar to yours, care to explain?" before posting it and starting this. You have absolutely no excuse to what you did, you didn't even think for a second about me or how this could all have been avoided.



--Also, that "joke" you pulled Sabb, wasn't very friendly, it made me look like an idiot and I would like an apology.

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I read the entire thread actually... but okay.
If you read through my whole comment I believe I said several times that I wasn't really as upset about it being "plaigirism" or w.e as that you didn't really even mention it, the only time being in the op in the spoiler. And I talked to you about the comic several times and complimented you about it a decent amount, and you didn't once mention that you were getting the story from something else. But anyways... I'm sorry you took offence to that... I didn't mean it that way, I'm not a complete asshole ._.. It wasn't in any way to make fun of you AT ALL, though I see how you could interpret it that way I guess... so I'm sorry. Also, I actually sent you a few messages in Skype a while ago for when you go on. I don't really want to argue about this any more or anything so... I think everyone's stated their opinion. And no, it's not something bad that I messaged you.

Frank:

--- Quote from: Sabb on April 02, 2012, 11:52:12 AM ---I read the entire thread actually... but okay.
If you read through my whole comment I believe I said several times that I wasn't really as upset about it being "plaigirism" or w.e as that you didn't really even mention it, the only time being in the op in the spoiler. And I talked to you about the comic several times and complimented you about it a decent amount, and you didn't once mention that you were getting the story from something else. But anyways... I'm sorry you took offence to that... I didn't mean it that way, I'm not a complete asshole ._.. It wasn't in any way to make fun of you AT ALL, though I see how you could interpret it that way I guess... so I'm sorry. Also, I actually sent you a few messages in Skype a while ago for when you go on. I don't really want to argue about this any more or anything so... I think everyone's stated their opinion. And no, it's not something bad that I messaged you.

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Because maybe Purple thought everyone had read the side note and was complimenting her about the changes she had done.

Sabb:

--- Quote from: Ruby Shine on April 02, 2012, 11:58:30 AM ---Because maybe Purple thought everyone had read the side note and was complimenting her about the changes she had done.

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>implying I didn't read the sidenote
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I've said many times that I knew about the sidenote but that I wish she had explained what she was actually doing, as just the way she talked about it and stuff made it seem like she was making the story, so I thought she was actually making her own story but using content from the other manga thing.

Frank:

--- Quote from: Sabb on April 02, 2012, 12:08:12 PM --->implying I didn't read the sidenote
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I've said many times that I knew about the sidenote but that I wish she had explained what she was actually doing, as just the way she talked about it and stuff made it seem like she was making the story, so I thought she was actually making her own story but using content from the other manga thing.

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--- Quote from: Purpal on March 17, 2012, 09:23:48 PM ---Spoiler: sidenote (click to show/hide)Also, this is what I would call a remodel off of a Japanese video game called Dangan Ronpa. It's very similar, but I honestly put a ton of hard work and time into making the characters the best I can. This is my first manga project and if you don't have anything nice to say I'd really appreciate it if you don't say it, or pm me about it privately. Thank you
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>remodel
>same structure, different characters

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