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Tezuni Rdm and ghosting with Mr.Gusta
Shockah:
--- Quote from: Ἆxule on December 27, 2011, 01:35:37 AM ---I'm not sure why you're targeting Mr. Gusta of ghosting with him.
There is no proof the two are friends.
Anyways, I have to -1.
There isn't enough proof for something as serious as ghosting. All you have showing is Tezuni knifing you before you could hurt him. For all we know, you could have tried to knife him as well and was caught off guard by the fact he had a knife as well.
A demo would have been more efficient with this report. Other than that, I can't believe you nor Tezuni. I'm only -1ing because there just isn't enough proof.
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This ^ and on behalf of your history with Tezuni the likelyhood of you simply rage posting because you're an asshole is pretty high aswell as him ghosting against you does that make this report totally uncredible no but there's simply not enough proof maybe if a demo was available but as you said you were "completely afk" :thumbsdown: to the report lacking proof.
[Valor]iPounce:
So I'm seeing here, Why did you knife him tezuni while he was afk?
AngelOfDeath:
--- Quote from: shockah1 on December 27, 2011, 02:04:24 AM ---This ^ and on behalf of your history with Tezuni the likelyhood of you simply rage posting because you're an asshole is pretty high aswell as him ghosting against you does that make this report totally uncredible no but there's simply not enough proof maybe if a demo was available but as you said you were "completely afk" :thumbsdown: to the report lacking proof.
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1. Damage logs show me not shooting anyone at all.
2. So he runs up the tower when I return from AFK I see a knife pushed into my face.
Damage logs questions anyone?
Ἆxule:
--- Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 27, 2011, 02:08:28 AM ---1. Damage logs show me not shooting anyone at all.
2. So he runs up the tower when I return from AFK I see a knife pushed into my face.
Damage logs questions anyone?
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that's where everything boils down too.
We cannot take your word that you hadn't done anything. All logs show is that Tezuni knifed you before you could damage him. Logs can't show you missing a shot/knife or anything else to provoke it.
Edit: I'd also like to add that though the damage logs do show Angel not damaging anyone during the whole round, it doesn't exactly prove you were afk. All it does is supports your claim. You could have been trying to prove yourself innocent to those around you, and thus, not hurting anyone. Since Tezuni was the detective, it is possible that the two of you were alone and you tried to make your move, while unaware that he had a knife due to being afk.
Now this doesn't mean anything. All I'm saying is we don't know exactly what happened, and we can't recreate exactly what happened from just the logs. We could listen to both of yours and Tezuni's explanations and we ourselves could come up with countless examples of what might have happened, but there is not way (in my opinion) we can prove as something as serious as ghosting (1wk-3wk (I'm unaware at the moment) length ban) with this little proof.
Now, with all that said, I don't find it hard to believe that Tezuni ghosted with someone in order to kill you, taking advantage of you being afk. I know for a fact that neither of you like each other, and with that said, there is the possibility of you changing what had actually happened in order to frame Tezuni. This does not mean that's exactly what happened. It only means that we can't take either of your (both Angel (Russian for those who are curious) and Tezuni) word for it.
AngelOfDeath:
--- Quote from: Ἆxule on December 27, 2011, 02:10:33 AM ---that's where everything boils down too.
We cannot take your word that you hadn't done anything. All logs show is that Tezuni knifed you before you could damage him. Logs can't show you missing a shot/knife or anything else to provoke it.
Edit: I'd also like to add that though the damage logs do show Angel not damaging anyone during the whole round, it doesn't exactly prove you were afk. All it does is supports your claim. You could have been trying to prove yourself innocent to those around you, and thus, not hurting anyone. Since Tezuni was the detective, it is possible that the two of you were alone and you tried to make your move, while unaware that he had a knife due to being afk.
Now this doesn't mean anything. All I'm saying is we don't know exactly what happened, and we can't recreate exactly what happened from just the logs. We could listen to both of yours and Tezuni's explanations and we ourselves could come up with countless examples of what might have happened, but there is not way (in my opinion) we can prove as something as serious as ghosting (1wk-3wk (I'm unaware at the moment) length ban) with this little proof.
Now, with all that said, I don't find it hard to believe that Tezuni ghosted with someone in order to kill you, taking advantage of you being afk. I know for a fact that neither of you like each other, and with that said, there is the possibility of you changing what had actually happened in order to frame Tezuni. This does not mean that's exactly what happened. It only means that we can't take either of your (both Angel (Russian for those who are curious) and Tezuni) word for it.
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I actually wonder if anyone witnessed him knifing me starts looking through the players present on at that time. If an Admin or VIP would be so kind to question some of those people it would be nice. :book:
If we can't find the witnesses then lock this report cause I guess there is not enough proof. However I will now start recording every round I am T from now on. So stuff like this just doesn't fly by.
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