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Title: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Nemisous on November 29, 2011, 11:47:18 PM
There is a bill in the US Senate called the National Defense Authorization Act and it could be voted on as early as this week. This bill gives the president the authority to indefinitely imprison American citizens without a court hearing, both domestically and abroad. Senate Bill 1867 is bringing the battlefield to the homeland.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7-FIDxXIB0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7-FIDxXIB0#)
http://ericfrankson1.newsvine.com/_news/2011/11/28/9071286-good-bye-personal-freedoms-national-defense-authorization-act-bill-provision-of-s-1867 (http://ericfrankson1.newsvine.com/_news/2011/11/28/9071286-good-bye-personal-freedoms-national-defense-authorization-act-bill-provision-of-s-1867)
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on November 30, 2011, 03:27:59 PM
...You made a current events thread yet you make another one here?
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Cake Faice on November 30, 2011, 03:30:32 PM
Are you purposely trying to raise your post count?
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: blαh2355 on November 30, 2011, 03:30:48 PM
wtf, what kind of authority is that?
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Nemisous on November 30, 2011, 03:31:21 PM
...You made a current events thread yet you make another one here?

eh the current events is reserved for world news etc.  example,  "Iran ass rapes a jewish enterprise"  this is i more of a political thing, kind of like the internet censorship bill.
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: ledjohnny on November 30, 2011, 03:32:05 PM
...You made a current events thread yet you make another one here?
Actually I think it's better to have these events separated, that way we can focus more easily on one topic instead of spam and derailment.
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Rocket50 on November 30, 2011, 03:32:13 PM
Are you purposely trying to raise your post count?

I really dont see the problem... He's posting what he thinks to be an important event so we can discuss. The news isnt old, the bill contains fairly interesting implications, so whats the problem?
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Nemisous on November 30, 2011, 03:34:52 PM
Are you purposely trying to raise your post count?

post count means nothing to me, as does respect.

but getting back on topic, the bill pretty much give the military martial law powers.
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: cogsandspigots on November 30, 2011, 06:31:07 PM
If this bill gets passed, I'm taking it straight to court.
This bill clearly breaks Habeas Corpus, a principle that is, in black and white, written in the Constitution.
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Nemisous on November 30, 2011, 06:33:10 PM
If this bill gets passed, I'm taking it straight to court.
This bill clearly breaks Habeas Corpus, a principle that is, in black and white, written in the Constitution.

i will personally start a local militia if this happens.
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Tezuni on November 30, 2011, 06:50:58 PM
When Obama tried to force people to get health care, it was taken to the supreme court and repealed.
Anything like the internet censorship bill, or this will, if passed, be repealed sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Nemisous on November 30, 2011, 06:54:28 PM
When Obama tried to force people to get health care, it was taken to the supreme court and repealed.
Anything like the internet censorship bill, or this will, if passed, be repealed sooner rather than later.

yes, but for how long and thing of the damage that would be done.
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: sledog on December 01, 2011, 10:43:38 PM
If this bill gets passed, I'm taking it straight to court.
This bill clearly breaks Habeas Corpus, a principle that is, in black and white, written in the Constitution.

No trolling intended, but did you know Abraham Lincoln suspended Habeaus Corpus during the Civil war ? ( just food for thought)

Additionally this shouldn't pass because of a judicial ruling that barred the Alien and Sedition acts; although this bill doesn't share the exact same actions as the A&S acts, they're close enough to stop the bill from actually passing.

Of course if in the off chance it does pass the courts Will throw it out; why ? Well once again because of the above.
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Cake Faice on January 01, 2012, 09:43:22 PM
It passed...
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: ledjohnny on January 01, 2012, 10:01:57 PM
My kidney stone, It passed!!!
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Cake Faice on January 01, 2012, 10:09:30 PM


It was fucking 6cm too.
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Nemisous on January 03, 2012, 03:28:21 PM
It passed...

bye bye constitutional rights, it was nice knowing you, and hello police state.
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: ·UηİŦ·· on January 03, 2012, 04:47:09 PM
i will personally start a local militia if this happens.
bye bye constitutional rights, it was nice knowing you, and hello police state.

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I wonder where I'll be 15 years from now. Probably decided to off myself because "TheFutureSucks"... or start an Anarchic Sub-society. Or, do both.

I hardly have to coerce most people to get them to listen to me IRL, anyways. I don't even speak as much as I type :>

It's fascinating to live in a time like this; but scary because I'm part of society as it apparently goes down the toilet via current events. The world as I and everyone else knows it keeps changing for the worse more than it does for the better.

I can't really say no, but I can stand by and do nothing.

Then again, when Good Men do nothing...

Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Osme on January 04, 2012, 04:35:19 PM
I wonder where I'll be 15 years from now. Probably decided to off myself because "TheFutureSucks"... or start an Anarchic Sub-society. Or, do both.

I hardly have to coerce most people to get them to listen to me IRL, anyways. I don't even speak as much as I type :>

It's fascinating to live in a time like this; but scary because I'm part of society as it apparently goes down the toilet via current events. The world as I and everyone else knows it keeps changing for the worse more than it does for the better.

I can't really say no, but I can stand by and do nothing.

Then again, when Good Men do nothing...
15 years from now america will be nkorea, with fewer rights at the rate were going
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on January 04, 2012, 10:15:48 PM
When Obama tried to force people to get health care, it was taken to the supreme court and repealed.
Anything like the internet censorship bill, or this will, if passed, be repealed sooner rather than later.


But the problem is that the people we elected are voting for this bill and it will be in effect for a period of time if I am not mistaken. That is why people get so uptight about such things, or atleast why I care.
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Nemisous on January 06, 2012, 08:58:28 PM
that and the heathcare bill doesnt imply that the military can detain, interrogate, and torture you indefinitely for being a "suspected terrorist" or a danger to national security with no trial or warrant.
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: AngelOfDeath on January 07, 2012, 07:37:31 AM
Lights up a smoke warning for America god isn't with you anymore and you have no rights basically you all are F&%*#d and so is the rest of the world with ya. Viva Resistance
Title: Re: National Defence Authorization bill (senate bill 1867)
Post by: Nemisous on January 08, 2012, 02:50:54 PM
americans will most likely conform to it, calling it patriotic, for the greater good, etc.......unless facebook or twitter where shut down then all hell would break loose.