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Title: another karma thread
Post by: Mufasa on November 28, 2011, 02:47:39 AM
i know there's been 1000 threads about the TTT karma system, but most of those are about losing 400+ karma for killing another innocent, and taking hours to earn it back
just thinking though, what if the reward for killing a T was increased, would give more incentive to try to kill a t, and also a chance to earn a significant amount of karma back

discuss.
Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Ἆxule on November 28, 2011, 02:50:15 AM
i know there's been 1000 threads about the TTT karma system, but most of those are about losing 400+ karma for killing another innocent, and taking hours to earn it back
just thinking though, what if the reward for killing a T was increased, would give more incentive to try to kill a t, and also a chance to earn a significant amount of karma back

discuss.

The only thing I see bad about that is the possibility of people becoming more willing to kill afk's.
"If he's Inno, I won't lose any karma (because I don't have any) but if he's T, I'll be able to kill with a 1-shot shotgun!"
Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on November 28, 2011, 01:45:42 PM
I disagree, the karma system should not be changed. While it can be annoying at times, it ultimately keeps RDMers away and people are FORCED to use common sense.
Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: memo3300 on November 28, 2011, 02:41:19 PM
I disagree, the karma system should not be changed. While it can be annoying at times, it ultimately keeps RDMers away and people are FORCED to use common sense.

>i take out a knife when no T have died.

>everyone is so fucking scared that no one shoted me until I stabed the D.


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Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Seb on November 28, 2011, 07:24:49 PM
I disagree, the karma system should not be changed. While it can be annoying at times, it ultimately keeps RDMers away and people are FORCED to use common sense.

Uh, no.

RDM is the same and, if anything, even more rampant and has a worse consequence. And it's not more "common sense" than it is "being too scared of wasting three hours of bringing karma up should that guy who stabbed an Inno maybe NOT be a traitor".
Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Deacon on November 28, 2011, 08:09:14 PM
Uh, no.

RDM is the same and, if anything, even more rampant and has a worse consequence. And it's not more "common sense" than it is "being too scared of wasting three hours of bringing karma up should that guy who stabbed an Inno maybe NOT be a traitor".

I disagree. If that guy stabs an inno, and is NOT a traitor, report his ass. He'll either learn or never come back. Its not really quite so bad as everyone makes it seem.
Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Seb on November 28, 2011, 08:25:51 PM
I disagree. If that guy stabs an inno, and is NOT a traitor, report his ass. He'll either learn or never come back. Its not really quite so bad as everyone makes it seem.


I used the knifing thing as an example of a situation where you're 110% sure somebody's a traitor and you still don't kill him because you don't want to waste three hours. RND TTT isn't even fun anymore. The point of TTT is to gamble, and the karma system has removed that.
Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Deathie on November 28, 2011, 09:04:31 PM
I used the knifing thing as an example of a situation where you're 110% sure somebody's a traitor and you still don't kill him because you don't want to waste three hours. RND TTT isn't even fun anymore.

This is pretty much the reason I don't play RND TTT anymore :v

Another problem with the karma system is that the rounds just DRAG OUT SO LONG becuase people just sit around talking, drawing out the round, becuase they're too afraid to kill anyone whose blatantly a T.

The karma system just makes it easier to troll/grief.

> Minge
"Oh, I'll just do really stupid shit and RDM this guy"
> Me
"He's killing people. Must be a T."
> I kill minge
"LOLITROLU"
> He leaves and never comes back
> I spend the next 3 hours regaining my karma.

asdafgh. If they RDM, they won't come back, regardless if the karma system is strict or not.

The point of TTT is to gamble, and the karma system has removed that.

I disagree with this though.
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Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Deacon on November 28, 2011, 09:42:31 PM
It really makes no sense to me that I can tell the difference between a traitor and a douchebag, and it makes even less sense to me how you all cannot regain karma quickly.
Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: cogsandspigots on November 29, 2011, 11:48:31 AM
I say we keep karma loss the same.
But increase the karma regeneration rate by 25-50%

Trust me, it will make things better.
Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Travelsonic on November 29, 2011, 05:04:34 PM
It really makes no sense to me that I can tell the difference between a traitor and a douchebag,

*insert some snide remark about some mystical clairvoyance skill you have*
Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Deacon on November 29, 2011, 05:36:27 PM
*insert some snide remark about some mystical clairvoyance skill you have*

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Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on November 29, 2011, 06:44:50 PM
>i take out a knife when no T have died.

>everyone is so fucking scared that no one shoted me until I stabed the D.


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Er, what?

> Ask in text (with CAPS) or yell at him for having a knife.
> Other person proceeds to ignore me and/or continues to make a move towords other players. In this case the detective.
> I kill knife-wielder.

I have seen one instances where that person is Innocent, the one time it happened he was later banned for ghosting. (Not that this happened on RnD servers.)



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What does that have to do with anything? If your claiming that you have nothing in there you could simply have removed it, took the picture, then put it back.
Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Ἆxule on November 29, 2011, 06:47:11 PM
Er, what?

> Ask in text (with CAPS) or yell at him for having a knife.
> Other person proceeds to ignore me and/or continues to make a move towords other players. In this case the detective.
> I kill knife-wielder.

I have seen one instances where that person is Innocent, the one time it happened he was later banned for ghosting. (Not that this happened on RnD servers.)

Look at the modification date.
Last it was modified was the 17, long before this thread was even made.
And Deacon's not like that, so yeah.

What does that have to do with anything? If your claiming that you have nothing in there you could simply have removed it, took the picture, then put it back.

Look at the modification date. It shows he last edited in the 17, long before the thread was made.
And I don't think Deacon would do that.
Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: memo3300 on November 29, 2011, 06:51:14 PM
what i meant...


It is fucking obvious that is everyone is alive and someone got a knife... he is a T.

2 days ago i just walked by with a knife and everyone was so scared of losing karma that they just waited until i knifed the D in the face
Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on November 29, 2011, 08:58:27 PM
what i meant...


It is fucking obvious that is everyone is alive and someone got a knife... he is a T.

2 days ago i just walked by with a knife and everyone was so scared of losing karma that they just waited until i knifed the D in the face

Hmm, I have not witnessed an event qute like that. It seems like a complete fail on their part, you were free karma!

The karma system has been good/great from what I've seen though.
Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Ἆxule on November 29, 2011, 10:14:13 PM
The one major thing I like about the karma system is that as a Traitor, people are less likely to go off and kill you when you do something.
Unless of course that person is like me and will kill you for simply following them after you've been warned.

Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Mufasa on November 30, 2011, 01:13:42 AM
honestly, 90% of the time when i'm inno, i have maxed karma, and it's just not worth the risk killing anyone, even if they are shooting me, end up just trolling people
also, i don't think that losing karma is a bad thing, it just gives you something to do, a reason to actually play ( and wuald be amplified if you got a significant karma gain for killing a T )
Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Ἆxule on November 30, 2011, 01:28:48 AM
Killing afk's I believe should be a more serious offense if the karma for killing a T is increased.
Same reason as my first post.
Title: Re: another karma thread
Post by: Mufasa on November 30, 2011, 01:46:03 AM
well, personally, i've never seen a circumstance of low-karma players killing afks for karma, only afk killing i've seen is people prop pushing people into fire, or off heights etc which doesnt effect karma