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Title: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Tezuni on November 16, 2011, 02:55:07 AM
I'm on a budget, but I want to be able to run games like battlefield 3 and skyrim.  (don't laugh :'()


I'm guessing the main parts affecting performance are the GPU, CPU, and amount of ram installed... am I right?  Also to use all this I'll probably need a new motherboard and PSU too...
Basically I'm looking for the cheapest way to do this by also keeping what parts I don't need to replace....any suggestions?
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Xrain on November 16, 2011, 03:32:16 AM
1. Tell us what components are currently in the computer you own.

2. Tell us your budget

3. How well do you want to be able to play battlefield 3 and skyrim, on low? ultra?
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Ἆxule on November 16, 2011, 01:03:49 PM
I'm in the same situation.
I've bought skyrim, but even with low quality and such, it's still pretty slow.
For me:
Budget - around 1k
Performance wanted - ultra if possible, I can go one lower.
Specs - I have a laptop...
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Frank on November 16, 2011, 02:12:21 PM
MSI Z68A-GD55 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $169.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130606&cm_sp=Cat_Motherboards-_-Hot_Item-_-13-130-606 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130606&cm_sp=Cat_Motherboards-_-Hot_Item-_-13-130-606)

Thermaltake TR2 RX 750W Bronze W0382RU ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active $89.99 PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153136&cm_sp=Cat_Power_Supplies-_-Weekly_Deals-_-17-153-136 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153136&cm_sp=Cat_Power_Supplies-_-Weekly_Deals-_-17-153-136)

Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 $209.99 BX80623I52500
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073)

EVGA 01G-P3-1560-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130634&cm_sp=Cat_Video_Cards_%26%2338%3b_Video_Devices-_-Weekly_Deals-_-14-130-634 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130634&cm_sp=Cat_Video_Cards_%26%2338%3b_Video_Devices-_-Weekly_Deals-_-14-130-634)

Patriot G series ‘Sector 5’ Edition 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PGV38G1600ELK $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220484&cm_sp=Cat_Memory-_-Featured_Brand-_-20-220-484 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220484&cm_sp=Cat_Memory-_-Featured_Brand-_-20-220-484)

Thermaltake Armor A60 Gaming Mid-Tower Chassis With Cable Management Water Cooling SSD Support And Tool-Less Installation VM20001W2Z $97.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133181 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133181)

Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697)

LG Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Drive Model UH12LS28 OEM LightScribe Support - OEM $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136232&cm_sp=Cat_CD_%26%2347%3b_DVD_Burners_%26%2338%3b_Media-_-Spotlight-_-27-136-232 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136232&cm_sp=Cat_CD_%26%2347%3b_DVD_Burners_%26%2338%3b_Media-_-Spotlight-_-27-136-232)


All that for: $1067
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Supertoaster on November 16, 2011, 02:53:54 PM
I'm in the same situation.
I've bought skyrim, but even with low quality and such, it's still pretty slow.
For me:
Budget - around 1k
Performance wanted - ultra if possible, I can go one lower.
Specs - I have a laptop...
fucking hell dude with 1k you can get a really l33t computer
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Ἆxule on November 16, 2011, 03:40:26 PM
fucking hell dude with 1k you can get a really l33t computer
I'd like to add that this is not money from my parents.
This is my money I worked for.

On topic:
You think so?
If it's too over powered, I do not want.
I don't want to be wasting money on things I don't need
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Cake Faice on November 16, 2011, 04:17:41 PM
I don't want to be wasting money on things I don't need

You probably will in the future at some point.
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Ἆxule on November 16, 2011, 05:16:46 PM
You probably will in the future at some point.

Good point.

Alright then, hit me.
It'll take maybe a month till I can get it b/c of payday.
I'm a few hundred short of 1k
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Tezuni on November 16, 2011, 06:49:35 PM
@Frank: Wow!!  Thanks for all that I've been looking at a few of those parts you linked to myself

@Xrain: Well the thing is some the components I have now are all OK to keep like my monitor/keyboard/mouse etc, but I'll need a new CPU, GPU, and PSU+Motherboard to support them.  So I'm find of looking for a CPU+GPU combo that don't bottleneck each other and can play games like BF3/Skyrim on the fullest settings so I don't miss out on any of the visuals.  But I really don't have like a thousands dollars to spend, maybe like 600?  Is it even possible to get modern hardware that i mentioned above, at a price like that?  Any place to buy from known for low prices and good services/products....?

What I have now is...

MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
AMD Athlon II X2 240 dual core 2.8Ghz CPU
Nvidia 9500GT 1Gb DDR2
1600x900 hp2009 monitor
4GB DDR2 RAM
Seagate 320GB HDD
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: » Magic « on November 17, 2011, 09:55:48 AM
Frank's choice was perfect

but if i were you and had a decent-ish computer at the moment, I would wait for Intel, AMD and NVIDIA to release their new CPU & GPU chips

finally GPU die size has shrunk <3
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Peetah on November 17, 2011, 01:48:46 PM
Nice choices Frank.
Just wanted to add, Lexa S is the sexiest case for the price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146060 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146060)
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Frank on November 17, 2011, 02:31:51 PM
Nice choices Frank.
Just wanted to add, Lexa S is the sexiest case for the price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146060 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146060)
Yah
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Supertoaster on November 17, 2011, 02:48:06 PM
mispost
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Ἆxule on November 21, 2011, 07:42:07 PM
What would you reccomend for the monitor as wella s keyboard
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Deathie on November 21, 2011, 07:49:26 PM
What would you reccomend for the monitor as wella s keyboard

Anything Acer for the monitor, 1080P.

I use a laptop, and I've never had an issue with it. Any ol' usb keyboard will be fine unless you want to be a try-hard and get one with LED lights and the curvy S shape.
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Tezuni on November 22, 2011, 05:22:23 PM
I was just wondering, would I benefit from 'overclocking' my CPU (2.8Ghz) or GPU(9500gt 1gb), or both?
Is there a big risk in that and do you need to buy cooling devices and such...
I really just want a better rig by spending hardly anything.
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Frank on November 22, 2011, 05:33:51 PM
I'd say go for a higher GPU.
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Tezuni on November 25, 2011, 01:52:44 PM
I overclocked the GPU as much as i could without it screwing up, and im getting about ~10 fps extra.
Runs BC2 at medium settings at a constant 30fps (1600x900 res) on some maps on others mid twenties fps rate.


Gmod went from 40-70 fps to 60-100fps
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Supertoaster on November 25, 2011, 02:27:56 PM
Mine can overclock from 700 to 950 u mad?
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Ἆxule on November 26, 2011, 03:54:50 PM
Is there another build I can get?
With what Frank gave me plus a screen and shipping it already costs around 1300.
I could get it, but I'd have to wait a bit longer, and I'm very desperate for a new computer right now
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Deacon on November 26, 2011, 11:41:16 PM
I'm gonna build with this.

GIGABYTE AJIGIEJLAEIF:AJGE 30000;IEGJ:AN+F
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519)

AMD Phenom 2 X4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808)

Radeon 6770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121468 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121468)

8GB RAM
pickyourown


Plus extra parts, my price is 580
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Supertoaster on November 26, 2011, 11:45:11 PM
I'm gonna build with this.

GIGABYTE AJIGIEJLAEIF:AJGE 30000;IEGJ:AN+F
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519)

AMD Phenom 2 X4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808)

Radeon 6770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121468 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121468)

8GB RAM
pickyourown


Plus extra parts, my price is 580
that's very very good actually! Crysis 2 pc amd phenom || x6 1055t HD 6770 HIGH settings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE7b4thKv8I#ws)

Ignore how its on a Hex Core phenom, A lot of the quad cores are actually faster then them.
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Ἆxule on November 26, 2011, 11:49:50 PM
So should I get what Deacon's getting?
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Deacon on November 26, 2011, 11:54:46 PM
my decisions are the result of consultations with peetah, cake face, and gamefreak over the course of several months of "building" computers for other people.

I decided to do one for myself; this is what I'll get, while at the same time being capable for decent future upgrading, if i need to.
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Ἆxule on November 26, 2011, 11:58:20 PM
my decisions are the result of consultations with peetah, cake face, and gamefreak over the course of several months of "building" computers for other people.

I decided to do one for myself; this is what I'll get, while at the same time being capable for decent future upgrading, if i need to.

Do you mind if I "steal" your build?
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Deacon on November 27, 2011, 12:11:48 AM
Do you mind if I "steal" your build?

as long as we don't end up with the same case, not even close.

All I wanted was something that ran games as well as an xbox, i have nothing to brag about and nothing to keep secret.
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Ἆxule on November 27, 2011, 12:13:25 AM
as long as we don't end up with the same case, not even close.

All I wanted was something that ran games as well as an xbox, i have nothing to brag about and nothing to keep secret.

I liked the case Peetah put up:
(http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/11-146-060-TS?$S300W$)
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Deacon on November 27, 2011, 12:15:56 AM
I liked the case Peetah put up:
(http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/11-146-060-TS?$S300W$)

i like my $40 case better

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815006 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815006)

always liked understated.
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Ἆxule on November 27, 2011, 12:32:40 AM
Alright, so when I switched out the parts from Frank's choice to deacon's, I was able to knock down the price by around 300.
as of right now I'm spending a total of $1,034.06 (that's with the $100+ shipping).

Spoiler: The Parts: (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Deacon on November 27, 2011, 12:46:43 AM
Alright, so when I switched out the parts from Frank's choice to deacon's, I was able to knock down the price by around 300.
as of right now I'm spending a total of $1,034.06 (that's with the $100+ shipping).

Spoiler: The Parts: (click to show/hide)

other than having an expensive case, and a power supply overrated by about 200 W, looks good
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Ἆxule on November 27, 2011, 01:08:29 AM
other than having an expensive case, and a power supply overrated by about 200 W, looks good

I just really like the case.
I might look for something cheaper though. The more money left over, the more money I have for other things.
What do you reccomend for the power supply?
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Deacon on November 27, 2011, 09:18:52 AM
I just really like the case.
I might look for something cheaper though. The more money left over, the more money I have for other things.
What do you reccomend for the power supply?

its your choice on the brand, but you shouldn't need more than 600 W. I'm gonna get a 550, but I won't even need that
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Frank on November 27, 2011, 11:23:47 AM
All my searching was useless. Fuck.
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: » Magic « on November 27, 2011, 11:29:30 AM
So should I get what Deacon's getting?


Nein! 6770!

up that graphics, 6870+ / 560Ti+

also what the f? 70$ for a dvd drive? just get a 10-20$ one, it'll be fine

Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Deacon on November 27, 2011, 11:45:13 AM
Nein! 6770!

up that graphics, 6870+ / 560Ti+

also what the f? 70$ for a dvd drive? just get a 10-20$ one, it'll be fine

dat budget, man. Gotta build first, upgrade later
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Ἆxule on November 27, 2011, 07:31:47 PM
Nein! 6770!

up that graphics, 6870+ / 560Ti+

also what the f? 70$ for a dvd drive? just get a 10-20$ one, it'll be fine

Alright, I'll see what I can do.

Edit:

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204)
$19.99

Edit 2:

EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604)
$249.99

My only concern atm is if everything is compatible.
(Check spoiler for all parts atm)

All my searching was useless. Fuck.

I'm still using majority of what you recommended. Thanks again btw.


Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Supertoaster on November 27, 2011, 08:50:47 PM
Deacon besides MC and Gmod/Source games do you play? A 6770 is good enough for most things.
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Deacon on November 27, 2011, 09:33:34 PM
Deacon besides MC and Gmod/Source games do you play? A 6770 is good enough for most things.

I don't. But I'd like to, hence the large step-up.
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Tezuni on November 30, 2011, 12:52:20 AM
Found a great site:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/ (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/) (It also links to HDD and GPU benchmarks)

Here's what I'm looking @ so far:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-2600K+%40+3.40GHz (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-2600K+%40+3.40GHz)
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+560+Ti (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+560+Ti)
http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Chaser-MK-1-Tower-VN300M1W2N/dp/B0051U1XMI (http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Chaser-MK-1-Tower-VN300M1W2N/dp/B0051U1XMI)
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: » Magic « on November 30, 2011, 06:50:27 AM
Alright, I'll see what I can do.

Edit:

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204)
$19.99

Edit 2:

EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604)
$249.99

My only concern atm is if everything is compatible.
(Check spoiler for all parts atm)

I'm still using majority of what you recommended. Thanks again btw.



Must things these days are compatible

Main thing is RAM + Mainboard

Check the mainboard's page and search for your RAM's model number in their "support modules" list

apart from that everything is looking great
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Samo on December 08, 2011, 11:01:31 PM
I recently built my own system for about $1000. I would definitely recomment the i5 2500k, it's great! I've easily got it to 4.2Ghz under a Hyper 212+.
Also, if you're going to get a 560 ti, the MSI Hawk edition is the best. Here's the link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127578 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127578)
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Supertoaster on December 12, 2011, 11:20:45 PM
For a mid-end computer ($600's?)

4GB of RAM
CPU = Intel Core i3 or AMD Phenom 925 (or 955, not sure)
GPU = GTX 460 or Radeon 6850


hard drives, well they're in the shitter now because of the flooding in thai, but normally you could get a 7200RPM 1TB hard drive for $60
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Deacon on December 12, 2011, 11:22:26 PM
For a mid-end computer ($600's?)

4GB of RAM
CPU = Intel Core i3 or AMD Phenom 925 (or 955, not sure)
GPU = GTX 460 or Radeon 6850


hard drives, well they're in the shitter now because of the flooding in thai, but normally you could get a 7200RPM 1TB hard drive for $60

thats more. maybe.

my build ended up at 700, with an OS. It was

CPU: Phenom 2 X4 955
GPU: Radeon 6770
RAM: 8
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Supertoaster on December 12, 2011, 11:43:41 PM
thats more. maybe.

my build ended up at 700, with an OS. It was

CPU: Phenom 2 X4 955
GPU: Radeon 6770
RAM: 8
Oh yeah, should have said the 6770 for "mid range"

955 is really nice, but I have a Phenom 2 X4 810 :(.
Title: Re: Great 2011-2012 Gaming Computer....help?
Post by: Frank on December 13, 2011, 01:40:18 AM
For a mid-end computer ($600's?)

4GB of RAM
CPU = Intel Core i3 or AMD Phenom 925 (or 955, not sure)
GPU = GTX 460 or Radeon 6850


hard drives, well they're in the shitter now because of the flooding in thai, but normally you could get a 7200RPM 1TB hard drive for $60
Scratch that i3. Get an i5.