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Title: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Deacon on October 07, 2011, 09:37:28 PM
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Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: blαh2355 on October 08, 2011, 04:23:21 AM
That looks like an attachment for a wrench thing, is it?

That's a big crack though.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Sabb on October 08, 2011, 07:51:04 AM
DIKKON NOT AMUSE
Did your sister like, try hammering a metal bat into it or something?
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Deacon on October 08, 2011, 08:22:39 AM
No, I tried to take the lug nuts off my tires.

I've never had a socket break like this.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Sabb on October 08, 2011, 08:27:20 AM
No, I tried to take the lug nuts off my tires.

I've never had a socket break like this.
I haven't seen that happen before but I'd imagine it could be for plenty of reasons, probably was just too old and worn out or something idk.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Deacon on October 08, 2011, 08:29:26 AM
I haven't seen that happen before but I'd imagine it could be for plenty of reasons, probably was just too old and worn out or something idk.

came with the locking lugs for my moms...5 year old truck.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Rocket50 on October 08, 2011, 09:18:35 AM
Lol what.

How does a solid metal socket break?
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Lazer Blade on October 08, 2011, 09:22:21 AM
probly was just old
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Deacon on October 08, 2011, 09:23:09 AM
probly was just old

no more than 5 years.
and i've got older sockets than that survive more than hand torque.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Lazer Blade on October 08, 2011, 09:24:05 AM
no more than 5 years.
and i've got older sockets than that survive more than hand torque.

huh was it ever used for anything else that it wasn't supposed to be used for ?
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Deacon on October 08, 2011, 09:25:20 AM
huh was it ever used for anything else that it wasn't supposed to be used for ?

no. its kept with the jack and tire iron under the back seat.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Prox on October 08, 2011, 09:26:49 AM
It probably was some kind of spoilage I guess because I have a few of those things rusted and shit and they haven't broke yet.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Shawn on October 08, 2011, 09:27:09 AM
It happens it starts as a scratch on the paint which is usually there to prevent rusting, alittle spot starts to rust then a small crack forms. now its only a matter of time before the  "wear & tear" (so to speak) takes affect then one day the metal has becomes weaken enough so when you apply force to it (Turn it to get the nuts off/on) it just brakes.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Deacon on October 08, 2011, 09:30:20 AM
It happens it starts as a scratch on the paint which is usually there to prevent rusting, alittle spot starts to rust then a small crack forms. now its only a matter of time before the  "wear & tear" (so to speak) takes affect then one day the metal has becomes weaken enough so when you apply force to it (Turn it to get the nuts off/on) it just brakes.

but thats just my point; its not old, we live in an area with NO humidity, it was kept inside the car...
it shouldn't have any form of wear/tear, other than previous use
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Shawn on October 08, 2011, 09:41:52 AM
but thats just my point; its not old, we live in an area with NO humidity, it was kept inside the car...
it shouldn't have any form of wear/tear, other than previous use

Left in the car all year long? Then it just be the way metal normally acts with changing temperature metal doesn't play nice with seasons every time it goes from winter to summer the metal takes a beaten.

Or it could've been defected as in there was defects in the mold causing the sockets to be doomed before it was even bought.

Anyways it could be for any reasons like something like when you used it in the winter some water got inside micro cracks then frozen and unfroze which makes cracks bigger once metal has become "compromised" its a pretty useless.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Deacon on October 08, 2011, 09:42:54 AM
Left in the car all year long? Then it just be the way metal normally acts with changing temperature metal doesn't play nice with seasons every time it goes from winter to summer the metal takes a beaten.

Or it could've been defected as in was defects in the mold causing the sockets to be doomed before it was even bought.

Anyways it could be for any reasons like something like when you used it in the winter some water got inside micro cracks then frozen and unfroze which makes cracks bigger once metal has become "compromised" its a pretty useless.

that would make sense but i live in las vegas, it doesn't change a whole lot around here. sometimes it gets cold enough...for water to freeze. sometimes.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Lazer Blade on October 08, 2011, 09:44:41 AM
that would make sense but i live in las vegas, it doesn't change a whole lot around here. sometimes it gets cold enough...for water to freeze. sometimes.

this stunts me i have no idea how it would have broke then.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Shawn on October 08, 2011, 09:45:21 AM
that would make sense but i live in las vegas, it doesn't change a whole lot around here. sometimes it gets cold enough...for water to freeze. sometimes.

or you used a/c  in summer :P (if your car has a/c)
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Deacon on October 08, 2011, 09:52:23 AM
or you used a/c  in summer :P (if your car has a/c)

115 F....yeah, we use AC.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Shawn on October 08, 2011, 09:55:35 AM
115 F....yeah, we use AC.

That would cause the changing temperatures right there and if its really good could've cause water to freeze. But like i said once metal is compromised its pretty useless, metal isn't really reliable.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Deacon on October 08, 2011, 10:01:34 AM
yet consider that it was also in a pouch containing tools for the factory jack/tire iron. it would've been insulated.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Osme on October 08, 2011, 10:08:33 AM
but thats just my point; its not old, we live in an area with NO humidity, it was kept inside the car...
it shouldn't have any form of wear/tear, other than previous use
Sometimes metal is just weak from manufacturing and and easily break, and if it breaks, its usually a fairly impressive break.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: aerobro on October 08, 2011, 11:00:15 AM
dat deacon face
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Tomcat on October 08, 2011, 10:25:47 PM
The manufactures forged it wrong.

My past experience tells me that they only put it under heat once witch makes it brittle. They forgot to heat it up another time at a lower temp.

Trust me, I know shit tons of stuff about manufacturing. 
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Xrain on October 10, 2011, 03:27:00 AM
Cheap junk tool made by the lowest bidder with poor quality control.

Most sockets are cold worked from blanks and pressed into shape, then as Tomcat says they then go through a heat-treatment process which makes them brittle, but also very hard (more brittle=more hard).

I don't think they anneal them to soften them again as the hardness of the socket is desired, as you want your tool to be harder than the bolt in most cases. (Though if it was an impact socket these are softer so when you use an impact driver they wont shatter and send metal splinters into your eyes.)

So my prognosis is a combination of:

- Low quality metal
- Manufacturing defect (Struck off center, giving it too thin of a sidewall on one side or something similar.)
- Poor design

Probably 95% of the time these sockets work fine for the light duty they are subjected to, rest of the time they break like yours did.


Just go buy a tire-iron from NAPA or CarQuest or what-have-you.
Title: Re: how the fuck does this even happen
Post by: Deacon on October 10, 2011, 09:29:05 AM
This isn't a normal socket although those factors still contribute to the failure. After talking to the guys at the shops looking for new lug nuts (since these are now useless) it seems that you aren't supposed to use the shallow walled lug keys (which this is) with the impact drivers. Since we always have taken the wheels to a store and they use the key, chances are it was already too weak.