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Title: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: whagman on October 05, 2011, 12:49:18 AM
1. Player's SteamID (STEAM_0:0:1234)
STEAM_0:0:25439381

2. Players Nickname
Tezuni

3. Your in-game name
whagman

4. Server name (Wirebuild, Zombie Survival)
Trouble in Terrorist Town

5. Description of the event(s)
Tezuni is constantly rdming. Many people have complained about him rdming, and them losing karma because of him, but i havent heard of anyone reporting him. In this instance, we were playing on whitehouse, he comes to me a detective and a third, shoots the third in the head, runs, and he ends up being a inno. he also traitor baits HARD. i havent really taken the time to get evidence, but now i have.

6. Reason for action
Rdming, traitor baiting

7. Screenshots or demo(s) | Optional console log(s)
http://steamcommunity.com/id/whagman/screenshot/541781415081769977?tab=public (http://steamcommunity.com/id/whagman/screenshot/541781415081769977?tab=public) Him rdming someone. he caused the detective to lose karma
http://steamcommunity.com/id/whagman/screenshot/541781415081779528?tab=public (http://steamcommunity.com/id/whagman/screenshot/541781415081779528?tab=public) just a little bit of him doing inno damage.


i will gather more evidence over time, but many people know he rdms and traitor baits.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Deacon on October 05, 2011, 12:52:43 AM
I've been told many times by many of our guests that this kind of thing occurs.
If sufficient evidence is provided, I support whatever action is deemed necessary; I've had quite enough of this bullshit.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Dark Pacifist on October 05, 2011, 12:53:01 AM
I argue the rdm since I'm not witness to that but he has admited to traiter baiting and traping people I personally would defend him but he needs to ease off of being a troll. :thumbsup: He has done such solely to lower others karma.
I'll try recording if it continues.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Kringl on October 05, 2011, 01:22:58 AM
Unfortunately I've noticed tezuni baiting quite often. I've lost karma because he was baiting incredibly hard.

Then, today, I witnessed him RDM 2 innocents during whitehouse,  I don't have a video but yes I can confirm that Tezuni does RDM and bait almost all of the time. I think he chooses to only RDM low karma individuals to avoid losing too much himself ,so that hwen people do kill him after being baited, he was rewarded with more karma loss on their end.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Tezuni on October 05, 2011, 02:01:38 AM
I made a few mistakes yes.  When killing, I usually wait to kill after:
a. being shot at
b. witnessing a murder
c. gunshot sounds/death sounds matched with held weapons if the situation seems fitting

I always keep my karma up high when possible and anyone who plays with me knows that. 
Whagman, every time I go on the server you drone on about how you hate me and only me, and you seem out to get me.  I'm sorry if I've shot you without enough evidence in the past, but I'm not out to get you.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: whagman on October 05, 2011, 02:08:00 AM
how do you explain the rdm where it was me, an inno. kringle a detective, and a random. no one died and we were in the hall way in the whitehouse. you literally ran up to the random who was like in me and kringle, headshot him with a deagle and ran... you didnt do any of yoru abc bullshit
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Ἆxule on October 05, 2011, 02:32:34 AM
Because karma baiting and killing low karma (maybe target rdm?) people arn't a solid rule for banning (or so I've been told).
Because of this, I believe Tezuni should atleast get demoted. This is no way to be acting as Reg.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Tezuni on October 05, 2011, 02:51:52 AM
There is no evidence of karma baiting or target rdm here.  I made a few mistakes in who I thought was traitor yes, if you have proof of anything more please post it.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: whagman on October 05, 2011, 02:55:50 AM
its widely known that you are a traitor baiter and rdmer. this is just one example of many. in the damage log, it shows how the person you killed just did damage to a traitor, and our det killed the traitor. we were all proven inno. you ran in shot him in the head an ran away...
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Tezuni on October 05, 2011, 02:58:03 AM
No I never shot the detective as innocent.  If I did kill anyone soon after they killed a traitor, it's because they just stood there like an idiot and didn't ID it.
What you have is two damagelogs of me making mistakes, and people rallying for me to to banned/demoted for them.
Axule, you lose your karma several times daily to those kinds of mistakes.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Kringl on October 05, 2011, 03:56:01 AM
Tezuni, today I watched you (as I was detective) gun down two people when you were innocent. You had no provocation for it, you just simply did it. I did not screenshot it but I was under the impression you were doing it without shame, and didn't care if you got banned.

From now on I will be more diligent, and grab a screenshot of the scores afterwards if need be.

I'm not looking to get you actively banned, I'm just providing my own side, since I have seen you many times bait, and today, RDM 2 individuals.

Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: This Toast on October 05, 2011, 05:24:50 AM
There is no evidence of karma baiting or target rdm here.  I made a few mistakes in who I thought was traitor yes, if you have proof of anything more please post it.

I agree that this maybe the situation. I as well try to connect things up and kill who I think who the traitor is.
-1
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: This Toast on October 05, 2011, 05:30:48 AM
its widely known that you are a traitor baiter and rdmer. this is just one example of many. in the damage log, it shows how the person you killed just did damage to a traitor, and our det killed the traitor. we were all proven inno. you ran in shot him in the head an ran away...
Tezuni, today I watched you (as I was detective) gun down two people when you were innocent. You had no provocation for it, you just simply did it. I did not screenshot it but I was under the impression you were doing it without shame, and didn't care if you got banned.

From now on I will be more diligent, and grab a screenshot of the scores afterwards if need be.

I'm not looking to get you actively banned, I'm just providing my own side, since I have seen you many times bait, and today, RDM 2 individuals.



It would be helpful if there's actually evidence of the damagelogs and roles.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Doctor Who on October 05, 2011, 07:10:49 AM
Whagman we all make mistakes from rdming from one person to another based off the list.

When killing, I usually wait to kill after:
a. being shot at
b. witnessing a murder
c. gunshot sounds/death sounds matched with held weapons if the situation seems fitting

But usually I don't have any sense of doing any of these off the list nowadays.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: whagman on October 05, 2011, 07:18:30 AM
if you guys look above what i highlited. it clearly shows the traitor died. he never killed a detective, he killed an innocent out of nowhere.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Kahuna on October 05, 2011, 05:57:58 PM
I often do the same thing as inno, but my guesses are usually wrong so i'd have to -1 this report. And as for the T baiting, yes Tezuni does it but I've never seen anyone lose karma for it while I was on.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: whagman on October 05, 2011, 09:15:02 PM
There is no evidence of karma baiting or target rdm here.  I made a few mistakes in who I thought was traitor yes, if you have proof of anything more please post it.


http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541781415081769977/9AAD9AB6C36DCE95E424B2BF1CB27D1D95AF9023/ (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541781415081769977/9AAD9AB6C36DCE95E424B2BF1CB27D1D95AF9023/)

im pretty sure thats solid evidence. you ran in, headshottedn an inno, then kringl killed you if you look under that. thus him losing karma.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Tezuni on October 05, 2011, 10:50:04 PM

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541781415081769977/9AAD9AB6C36DCE95E424B2BF1CB27D1D95AF9023/ (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541781415081769977/9AAD9AB6C36DCE95E424B2BF1CB27D1D95AF9023/)

im pretty sure thats solid evidence. you ran in, headshottedn an inno, then kringl killed you if you look under that. thus him losing karma.

No, you said this was on whitehouse, and I remember this.
The log shows the guy I killed had just killed a traitor, and he decided to be an idiot and not ID, so i shot him.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: whagman on October 06, 2011, 12:04:44 AM
that is whitehau5
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Dark Pacifist on October 07, 2011, 10:14:35 PM
Fine you still shouldn't be traitor baiting constantly. I've heard dozens of complaints and witnessed you traitor baiting. His baiting has on several occasions caused rdms.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Vastined on October 08, 2011, 03:46:02 AM
honestly, a lot of players bait, and I don't think it harms in any way. Other regs bait too, but I think that's just a part of the game. You just have to pay attention. Things change when you are actually hit on mistake, but usually never lead to RDM.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: This Guy on October 08, 2011, 09:52:21 AM
Tezuni, today I watched you (as I was detective) gun down two people when you were innocent. You had no provocation for it, you just simply did it. I did not screenshot it but I was under the impression you were doing it without shame, and didn't care if you got banned.

From now on I will be more diligent, and grab a screenshot of the scores afterwards if need be.

I'm not looking to get you actively banned, I'm just providing my own side, since I have seen you many times bait, and today, RDM 2 individuals.



This...

There is no evidence of karma baiting or target rdm here.  I made a few mistakes in who I thought was traitor yes, if you have proof of anything more please post it.

That, and...

It would be helpful if there's actually evidence of the damagelogs and roles.


This pretty much sums up what I would have said, There is no solid evidence like a demo but a screen shot for end-game damage logs would be perfect.

BUT
I've heard dozens of complaints and witnessed you traitor baiting. His baiting has on several occasions caused rdms.

If actions would be taken, I agree with Axule to just demote Tezuni.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Tezuni on October 08, 2011, 12:56:40 PM
Whagman and a select few people like to monopolize on whenever I make mistakes, chanting that I RDM for at least a minute after I mess up.
I try to keep 1,000 karma always and if not 1,000 its usually always around 950+ any many people know this.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: blαh2355 on October 08, 2011, 02:02:35 PM
According to the first pic, http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541781415081769977/9AAD9AB6C36DCE95E424B2BF1CB27D1D95AF9023/ (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541781415081769977/9AAD9AB6C36DCE95E424B2BF1CB27D1D95AF9023/)  it seems as if it were like a gun fight with a traitor and it may seem accidental that Tezuni had killed that guy by accident? I'm not sure of the whole situation so I'm just wondering.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Kavo-Thizzla on October 08, 2011, 04:23:53 PM
 :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Dark Pacifist on October 09, 2011, 01:07:21 PM
Tezuni I ussualy ignore minor shit like this but when it becomes extreamly excessive as it did something needs to be done sorry bro.
And yes I agree with the demotion as well instead of ban.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Tezuni on October 09, 2011, 07:06:19 PM
If anyone has evidence of me intentionally trying to rdm, then I would accept any action taken, but the fact is that I make mistakes in my kills like everyone else who plays TTT.
I think this report is more of a personal attack from Whagman.
Title: Re: Tezuni Rdmer and Traitor baiter
Post by: Dark Pacifist on October 09, 2011, 09:21:39 PM
It maybe a personal attack but the people have spoken, limit your traitor baiting so we don't have to hear so many complaints. As for rdm I still argue that you didn't.
In light of your changed behavior I'm giving you a chance tez so :thumbsdown: to this report don't make me regret this bro.