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Support (Read Only) => Help => Topic started by: kruel kramer on July 19, 2011, 04:54:51 PM
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I've edited the OP for clarification on the topic
This type of behavior is not tolerated by anyone here at rNd.
The servers are not compromised and are not being used to attack anybody else - Same for all of the services here at rNd.
If anyone has any information about anyone attacking or threatening to attack rNd or its members they are instructed to contact me and report it anyway they can in as much detail as possible.
Also, if I was aware of any information regarding attacks I would do my best to share that information.
At the moment I do not have any information to attacks against you, your members, or your servers.
Trust if I did know I would let you know.
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Hello, I'm Kruel Kramer. But, that name is now out of date. My alias is Archemyde, and i co-own the 4th-Life community.
Lately, our ZS server has been having TREMENDOUS lag and constant crashing. After a week of investigation, we had come to find out that it was not the server's fault We were barely using any of our resources. The only other explanation was DDoS. Now, there have been numerous rumors and reports that the members of RnD Have been DDoSing our server. i came here to figure out whether or not this is true, And if so, to find out the reason why this is happening. Can any of you shed light on this topic?
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None of our members would DDoS a community. It's not even better here either. We get frequent DDoS attacks.
So yer.
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We don't even joke about it, man. I'm sorry to hear you are having problems, but as it was said we have been having them too.
You can rest assured we wouldn't do that.
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Ever think the people accusing RND could be doing it or hiding who is doing it?
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Ahh, well, i hope so. i've heard alot of the players on my server shit-talking RND, usually i didnt mind because i didnt know who you were. I was afraid an RND player had come on and was offended and decided to DoS us. Thanks for the help guys, Hopefully i can find another lead on why this is happening.
@ Sabb:
This could be very likely. i'll look into this.
PS: Should probably start defending you guys on my server. Seems as if you arent too bad.
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Here at RND, We're all just friends who like to play games.
It seems a little disrespectful to even think we would Ddos anyone.
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We have gone through so many attacks ourselves, I can't imagine any of our members doing such a thing. We know exactly what it's like to have our gameplay suspended entirely. We wouldn't do that to anyone.
If we can help at all, I'm sure we'd be glad to (I know I would, but I can't do much of anything properly)
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I can't think of any of our community DDoSing, but if we find someone who is, they will most likely be removed/banned.
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Actually, you can get banned for even TALKING about DDoSing places here.
Srs business.
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We would never attempt to do something such as that, and if we ever found out one of our members were doing it, they would recieve a nice perma-ban.
I never knew that some of the [4L] members disliked rNd, I actually thought the opposite due to the fact there are a lot of them on here. We don't dislike them either, may you please ask those people where they got their sources? If they have no evidence, there is no reason to suspect us. You've never done anything to us, and we've never done anything to you as far as I know.
and yes, we HAVE been getting DDos'd a shitload for the past 2 months (I think). That's why we take it so seriously.
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From what i know, they dislike RND because of all the "trolls on their servers/ no custom content"
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From what i know, they dislike RND because of all the "trolls on their servers/ no custom content"
We have no custom content because we are original, as for the trolls, were they, by any chance, regulars? Or were they just guests?
Also, what Yoshi said, why did they suspect us?
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This is my question: How exactly did you guys found out it was us?
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From what i know, they dislike RND because of all the "trolls on their servers/ no custom content"
I don't know why we have no custom content, but I can assure you; Those trolls are NOT part of our community (At least, most of them aren't)
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hey, i like our not-super-overcustom-content servers....
to each his own though.
And the trolls don't typically join the community.
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Could it be an unintentional reflected ddos? For example we get DDOS'd but we just redirect the packets to someone else?
also none of us would DDOS a server, we get ddosed frequently.
inb4idunnowhatimtalkingabout
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I don't know why we have no custom content, but I can assure you; Those trolls are NOT part of our community (At least, most of them aren't)
Regulars have been getting approved with as little as 5 +1's with no VIPs/admins voting. Most of them are just approved which is why I'm deciding to keep an eye on them, this is an example of why they shouldn't be approved as easily as they are right now, they are giving our community the impression we are full of trolls.
@Super, I thought that we would have to be getting DDos'd at the same time to reflect it, or am I wrong? We haven't been DDos'd in the past few days so....Yeah... Nevermind, if we already got DDos'd I think we've already been compromised. Which means they can do it at any time...Right?
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hey, i like our not-super-overcustom-content servers....
to each his own though.
And the trolls don't typically join the community.
I wasn't saying I LIKE a shitton of custom content, I just didn't know why we don't have it.
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WHAT supertoaster? why would we redirect the packets to anyone?
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WHAT supertoaster? why would we redirect the packets to anyone?
No, no, no. The people who DDos us take some sorta control and MAKE us redirect it to somebody else.
"Stacheldraht is a classic example of a DDoS tool. It utilizes a layered structure where the attacker uses a client program to connect to handlers, which are compromised systems that issue commands to the zombie agents, which in turn facilitate the DDoS attack."
Pretty much, they would be using us to DDos other communities, I am 70% sure I'm wrong though, I don't like studying the thing that is fking up my our server play-time.
EDIT: "Agents are compromised via the handlers by the attacker, using automated routines to exploit vulnerabilities in programs that accept remote connections running on the targeted remote hosts. Each handler can control up to a thousand agents."
....A thousand? I think I just shit bricks.
Orrrrr, it could just NOT be us and the people who don't like our community are just raging and thinking it's us.
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BECAUSE APPARENTLY NO ONE HAS COME TO THIS CONCLUSION OR STATED IT:
RND is a large gaming community that is very successful and often highly populated.
Most people will, when first joining a game, search for servers with larger player count thinking they will be better. Since RND is one of those, a lot of people will just come around to check out RND. Point: RND is fairly well known, and successful. People tend to always think that what they like and what they do is the best, so seeing as RND is one of the more successful and larger communities, some will automatically have a small hate towards it, just because they think their shit is better because it's what they started on or it's what they like. So, it's natural for people to start rumors and shit about other communities like RND for those reasons. The truth is though, that RND is one of the very most friendly and nice communities there are. Trolls and what not don't last here.
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hey, i like our not-super-overcustom-content servers....
to each his own though.
And the trolls don't typically join the community.
Like Deacon said usually the trolls are people that never go on the forums nerveless the community
And also in relation of sabbs post he is right.
If you want to figure out if the ip's are rNd members what I would do is pm coolzeldad (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=1) and ask him if any of the ips relate to our player base, and I assure you that those members will be dealt with in a proper manor.
-Tomcat
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This type of behavior is not tolerated by anyone here at rNd.
The servers are not compromised and are not being used to attack anybody else - Same for all of the services here at rNd.
If anyone has any information about anyone attacking or threatening to attack rNd or its members they are instructed to contact me and report it anyway they can in as much detail as possible.
Also, if I was aware of any information regarding attacks I would do my best to share that information.
At the moment I do not have any information to attacks against you, your members, or your servers.
Trust if I did know I would let you know.
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This type of behavior is not tolerated by anyone here at rNd.
The servers are not compromised and are not being used to attack anybody else - Same for all of the services here at rNd.
If anyone has any information about anyone attacking or threatening to attack rNd or its members they are instructed to contact me and report it anyway they can in as much detail as possible.
Also, if I was aware of any information regarding attacks I would do my best to share that information.
At the moment I do not have any information to attacks against you, your members, or your servers.
Trust if I did know I would let you know.
The master has spoken.
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I don't even know what is DDoS???
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Hello, I'm Kruel Kramer. But, that name is now out of date. My alias is Archemyde, and i co-own the 4th-Life community.
Lately, our ZS server has been having TREMENDOUS lag and constant crashing. After a week of investigation, we had come to find out that it was not the server's fault We were barely using any of our resources. The only other explanation was DDoS. Now, there have been numerous rumors and reports that the members of RnD Have been DDoSing our server. i came here to figure out whether or not this is true, And if so, to find out the reason why this is happening. Can any of you shed light on this topic?
Just a question, does gog server people play on 4th-Life server?
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We would never attempt to do something such as that, and if we ever found out one of our members were doing it, they would recieve a nice perma-ban.
I never knew that some of the [4L] members disliked rNd, I actually thought the opposite due to the fact there are a lot of them on here. We don't dislike them either, may you please ask those people where they got their sources? If they have no evidence, there is no reason to suspect us. You've never done anything to us, and we've never done anything to you as far as I know.
and yes, we HAVE been getting DDos'd a shitload for the past 2 months (I think). That's why we take it so seriously.
mfw
>past 2 months
>it's been on-and-off for a year
Sorry for your server getting DDoS'd, You can assure it was not us as we have to fend off DDoS ourselves
And yes a lot of players do hate on a server when they get banned for something when they don't read the rules
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We have no custom content because we are original,
Doesn't mean we can't have some custom content.
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Doesn't mean we can't have some custom content.
Well we CAN, it's just that they need to be approved :>
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. Now, there have been numerous rumors and reports that the members of RnD Have been DDoSing our server. i came here to figure out whether or not this is true, And if so, to find out the reason why this is happening. Can any of you shed light on this topic?
I gotta call into question these reports - where they get the info to make such assertions, etc.
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I don't even know what is DDoS???
>holds in frustration
Okay, (D)DOS stands for (Direct) Denial of Service which basically sends fake packets to the target (servers) flooding it, which in result can crash it or make it epically lag.
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"A denial-of-service attack (DoS attack) or distributed denial-of-service attack (DDoS attack) is an attempt to make a computer resource unavailable to its intended users."
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack)
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"A denial-of-service attack (DoS attack) or distributed denial-of-service attack (DDoS attack) is an attempt to make a computer resource unavailable to its intended users."
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack)
Okay, (D)DOS stands for (Direct) Denial of Service which basically sends fake packets to the target (servers) flooding it, which in result can crash it or make it epically lag.
D:
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D:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
"Direct Denial of Service"
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
"Direct Denial of Service"
oops ffffffuuuuu-
my minds just filled with sadness today, i am sorry
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I don't think anyone here has the capability to DDoS effectively. Also, we receive a shitstorm of DDoS attacks everyday.
Whoever accused us is trying to set us up, obviously.
WE MUST BRING HIM INTO CUSTODY.
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IM (Direct)DOS TO YOUR ANUS
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IM (Direct)DOS TO YOUR ANUS
OHGODWATYOMONOO
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All the people who linked DDoS and telling what means and what use is ban :trollface:
Jk on topic:
This is my question: How exactly did you guys found out it was us?
You're doing it wrong, You mean " How exactly did you guys suspect us to ddos your server? "
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Well well well. http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,7511.msg110895.html#new (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,7511.msg110895.html#new)
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I don't think anyone here has the capability to DDoS effectively. Also, we receive a shitstorm of DDoS attacks everyday.
Whoever accused us is trying to set us up, obviously.
WE MUST BRING HIM INTO CUSTODY.
1 out of 250 people here probably have some capability
Dont assume that a 4th grader down the street cant have a botnet of 500 computers
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1 out of 250 people here probably have some capability
Dont assume that a 4th grader down the street cant have a botnet of 500 computers
single DoS is as easy as pissing on a dead baby
getting a botnet requires actual skill
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Anyways after looking the report of supertoaster i actually took a second look to this.
This look really srs soo i belive it can help a little to say this.
By the time the servers were down i got an invitation from one of my friends to join 4L... it is Mr.Freeman the guy who used to play all the day in the TTT server... maybe he knows something because the match of the dates... so even if he isn't inside this whole shit he should know something about this.
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Maybe one of us could become like a spy and become apart of their community.
Maybe then we can learn of their plans...
brb...
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It's not so easy to find out who is ddosing servers. I think guy who controls botnet(if it's botnet) can use anonymous proxies, cryptovpn and other shit. Who knows how he secured himself.
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It's not so easy to find out who is ddosing servers. I think guy who controls botnet(if it's botnet) can use anonymous proxies, cryptovpn and other shit. Who knows how he secured himself.
Thanks for that..
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Il do a small necro but i think we have been ddosed for over a year tho, i remember way back when we still were occasionally ddosed.
Also, the ddoser probalby uses a proxy or smth, he wouldnt be THAT stupid to use his own IP.
If he does use his IP then he probably got all the stuff from hackforums by leeching.
Edit(13.12.2011): What a load of bollocks Ive written... Well that person might have bought the botnet, possibilities are endless? Still sad to hear that this wasnt resolved or smth like that
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Has this guy come back to clarify anything, or is this a case of accuse-and-run?
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Accuse and run
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I searched a steam id of one member of 4th life once because i mistaked with the steam id.
The search on google had 10+ pages.